beefsnack 16 Posted September 25, 2025 Posted September 25, 2025 So The Nightmare is real, Lost another HD, and I'm working on the dreaded replacement files (no I'm not working with a Raid) so I'm replacing the files but I'm not deleting the old Folder because I like the way EMBY keeps the old images blank showing me whats missing (hoping this isn't my biggest problem), so my issue is that now that I've created the new location and replaced the files Emby wont update it's location and change, it still reads it as it's old location even after I've done a replace metadata and search missing and done full scans, but it will show new episodes in that new folder, but not the old redirected ones, anything I can do to change the folder directory without removing the entire folder from the lists? TIA..
GrimReaper 4739 Posted September 25, 2025 Posted September 25, 2025 Are those items being multi-versioned maybe? Do you see a version dropdown in any item detail view?
beefsnack 16 Posted September 25, 2025 Author Posted September 25, 2025 (edited) @GrimReaperThat would be a Negative, It still shows the old location when I bring up edit metadata, and of course the image is still blank and I still get the playback error but I know for a fact that the folder is in the list and its been scanned and verified as well. Edited September 25, 2025 by beefsnack
beefsnack 16 Posted September 25, 2025 Author Posted September 25, 2025 this is where it was, and I moved it to a completely different HD I was hoping EMBY was going to just redirect the folder because it's already in the system, I know if I remove the folder altogether my problem will solve itself, but I can't ATM, Any ideas on how I might go about doing this without deleting the folder ?
GrimReaper 4739 Posted September 25, 2025 Posted September 25, 2025 Does the other (current) HDD have B:\ drive letter or some other letter?
beefsnack 16 Posted September 25, 2025 Author Posted September 25, 2025 6 minutes ago, GrimReaper said: Does the other (current) HDD have B:\ drive letter or some other letter? No I left it out, I haven't replaced the drive yet, waiting on a 12TB delivery, why I was asking if there was a way I could change the folders location without deleting it.
GrimReaper 4739 Posted September 25, 2025 Posted September 25, 2025 2 minutes ago, beefsnack said: No I left it out, I haven't replaced the drive yet, waiting on a 12TB delivery, why I was asking if there was a way I could change the folders location without deleting it. I honestly don't know what to make of that answer. Old drive had B drive letter - which letter does the new drive - the one where you have the files now and that you added as library path - have? What is the new location/path?
beefsnack 16 Posted September 25, 2025 Author Posted September 25, 2025 Just now, GrimReaper said: I honestly don't know what to make of that answer. Old drive had B drive letter - which letter does the new drive - the one where you have the files now and that you added as library path - have? What is the new location/path? I got you, so B got nuked, I just used my back ups and tossed the files in another one of my other drives I have 25 drives on my system, That (Trash) folder is spread out over 4 drives, so I was just putting the files in the others drives, see where i'm going with it now?
beefsnack 16 Posted September 25, 2025 Author Posted September 25, 2025 (edited) So EMBY should still register the files in all the drives which it already does currently, but what it's not doing is seeing the transfer of the deleted files that have moved to the new drive letter, because it still has the old B drive letter associated with it, why I was asking is there a way I can get it to see the new one without deleting the complete folder Edited September 25, 2025 by beefsnack
GrimReaper 4739 Posted September 25, 2025 Posted September 25, 2025 3 minutes ago, beefsnack said: I got you, so B got nuked, I just used my back ups and tossed the files in another one of my other drives I have 25 drives on my system, That (Trash) folder is spread out over 4 drives, so I was just putting the files in the others drives, see where i'm going with it now? In that case what I suspect is happening is Emby seeing whole mount point misding/not accessible and does not consider those items removed/deleted (a feature number of users with network drives asked for), BUT I would expect them to be merged with new items (i.e.present ones). As it is not happening, something else must be amiss.
GrimReaper 4739 Posted September 25, 2025 Posted September 25, 2025 (edited) 5 minutes ago, beefsnack said: So EMBY should still register the files in all the drives which it already does currently, but what it's not doing is seeing the transfer of the deleted files that have moved to the new drive letter Exactly. @Lukedo the items currently not available due to mount point missing have some lock in the db? I.e. are they being prevented of any change being made until remounted, like currently being in "frozen" state? Edited September 25, 2025 by GrimReaper
beefsnack 16 Posted September 25, 2025 Author Posted September 25, 2025 2 minutes ago, GrimReaper said: In that case what I suspect is happening is Emby seeing whole mount point misding/not accessible and does not consider those items removed/deleted (a feature number of users with network drives asked for), BUT I would expect them to be merged with new items (i.e.present ones). As it is not happening, something else must be amiss. Exactly, now you're with me, if I can just let it see it, without deleting the folder so I can see what's missing before I can remove the folder then redo it again that would be the goal here.
beefsnack 16 Posted September 25, 2025 Author Posted September 25, 2025 I can just take a bunch of screen shots and do it that way, it's what I did the last time I lost a drive, Big pain in the butt, but it worked.
GrimReaper 4739 Posted September 25, 2025 Posted September 25, 2025 I'd wait for the Dev's reply, if there's a db lock then there's not much else you can do.
beefsnack 16 Posted September 25, 2025 Author Posted September 25, 2025 9 minutes ago, GrimReaper said: I'd wait for the Dev's reply, if there's a db lock then there's not much else you can do. yea, I have a Metricton of files to search to find missing data anyways
beefsnack 16 Posted September 25, 2025 Author Posted September 25, 2025 @GrimReaperAppreciate the assist. Thank you 1
Neminem 1518 Posted September 25, 2025 Posted September 25, 2025 @beefsnackWhen you get all this sorted, I would setup Radarr ( Movies ) and Sonarr ( TV show ) They have the ability to track missing media if they get deletet / gone due to harddisk failure. That would help you identify whats missing 1
beefsnack 16 Posted September 25, 2025 Author Posted September 25, 2025 5 hours ago, Neminem said: @beefsnackWhen you get all this sorted, I would setup Radarr ( Movies ) and Sonarr ( TV show ) They have the ability to track missing media if they get deletet / gone due to harddisk failure. That would help you identify whats missing I have it
Luke 42077 Posted September 25, 2025 Posted September 25, 2025 Hi, what you need to do is remove the old location from emby library setup and then add the new one. There is currently no way to remap an existing library to a new folder, although that is on our to do list.
Gilgamesh_48 1240 Posted September 25, 2025 Posted September 25, 2025 1 hour ago, Luke said: Hi, what you need to do is remove the old location from emby library setup and then add the new one. There is currently no way to remap an existing library to a new folder, although that is on our to do list. I have a question about that. In the past if I needed to move my Movie library to a new location I created the new location and then moved the content from the old location to the new and then included the new path in the library definition and then scanning the library in Emby. After the scan completes I then removed the old empty location from the library. This works, or did work, because I keep all artwork and meta data alongside the media and all the rescan really did was change the patch to the media. This worked great and saved me time since the files did not have to be recreated it even reduced the read/write cycles of the drive and also had the benefit of keeping played statuses intact. Are you saying this no longer works? If so I will have to, fairly soon, come up with another solution as my TV library is soon to outgrow the pool it is in and I must move stuff around to make everything stable. I could just expand the pool that my TV shows is in but I have decided that one big pool would make better use of my available drives than keeping two pools. So I have decided to go to one pool with all my drives and then sudden growth of one library will not force me to change things again. I can just add another drive to the pool. If I remove the old location from Emby first then the entire library would have tp be rebuilt and I would loos the watched states. Yes, I know the backup/restore will restore watched states but the way I do it removes the need for that step. And I really like anything that simplifies things for me. I seem to have rambled a bit but I think I got the point across, maybe.
GrimReaper 4739 Posted September 25, 2025 Posted September 25, 2025 3 hours ago, Gilgamesh_48 said: If I remove the old location from Emby first then the entire library would have tp be rebuilt and I would loos the watched states. You wouldn't, as items are tracked by ProviderIds, you don't need a backup to preserve those; the only thing that doesn't keep their playstates are home videos (as no external IDs).
GrimReaper 4739 Posted September 25, 2025 Posted September 25, 2025 4 hours ago, Luke said: Hi, what you need to do is remove the old location from emby library setup and then add the new one. There is currently no way to remap an existing library to a new folder, although that is on our to do list. That doesn't really answer OP's question, as removal of the old path during transition is precisely what they're trying to avoid - nor it answers mine, if you'd be so kind: 14 hours ago, GrimReaper said: Lukedo the items currently not available due to mount point missing have some lock in the db? I.e. are they being prevented of any change being made until remounted, like currently being in "frozen" state? Thanks.
Luke 42077 Posted September 25, 2025 Posted September 25, 2025 11 hours ago, GrimReaper said: Exactly. @Lukedo the items currently not available due to mount point missing have some lock in the db? I.e. are they being prevented of any change being made until remounted, like currently being in "frozen" state? No, there's no such thing. 1
GrimReaper 4739 Posted September 25, 2025 Posted September 25, 2025 2 hours ago, Luke said: No, there's no such thing. Thanks. In that case, on OP's scenario, this is what I expected would happen: 14 hours ago, GrimReaper said: In that case what I suspect is happening is Emby seeing whole mount point misding/not accessible and does not consider those items removed/deleted (a feature number of users with network drives asked for), BUT I would expect them to be merged with new items (i.e.present ones). But they apparently were not merged. Any idea why?
Luke 42077 Posted September 25, 2025 Posted September 25, 2025 I'm not sure. We'd have to look at a specific example. It's a little hard to visualize.
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