Recording CUT Start-End Time Help Quick Solution?

[muppet4k 10]

Hi,

is it possible after emby recorded something (normally +2min and +3min end) that I can set a mark in and mark out where the film/series should start and end?

So when I start a recorded film that its start at the right beginning.

Is something possible?

Or how is anybody solving this problem in a quick way?

thank you

[visproduction 351]

If the recorded media is a single file, rather than a series of files, then editor can easily edit out any unwanted start and end times.  Since you are dealing with compressed media, you won't be able to edit on an exact frame.  Removing  start and end sections for a 2 hour media can be handled in about 2 minute load into the editor, a minute to pick the edit spots and 2 minutes to make a new media file on even a slow computer or notebook.  Since you have to choose the editing points, there is really no automated way to do it.  That's about 12 to 20, 2 hour media files done in an hour.  Plus the initial 1/2 hour to get familar enough with the editor.  I use AVIdemux.

The problem in making this available inside Emby is that this functionality requires adding either some editing or tagging each file with a start and end timing which adds one or two columns to the dbase and sacrifices server speed and adds size and complexity to the dbase that will create slower response times and probably bugs that need continous support.  Adding such functions to Emby might be used by some fraction of the users. 

Another issue is that each platform would need different code to support this start 2 minutes into the film function.  All plateforms and TV media players handle this differently, so this one feature would require, perhaps 20 sets of code development.   I would guess, maybe 1 in 5000 Emby users would ever use it.  Finally, if this feature does become available to Emby and users can't remember how to access it to adjust or they accidentally adjust it for media, can't find a way to turn it off because it would an extra setting.  Such users could decide that Emby is too complex and leave and never return.  These are, I think, reasonable considerations and in my opinion, if you want media to start and end where you prefer, then redit the video yourself.  Emby should not be doing this.

[ManuelThallinge 2]

I just want to give my 5c to this topic.

I battle with the same kind of problem. Per default recordings with no offset often cut off parts of it, so you have to a minute in front and behind. But i find it really ugly, especally for series to have nonsense in front and back of it. Running it through an editor doesnt scale, especialy with things like av1. Never seen good quality from an editor where the final file isnt bloated, so you have to export it with with reallyhigh quality and let it run through handbrake, to get a file with good quality  ( which allready has several conversions on that file ) and acceptable size without using old stuff like h264. Its more like at least 20-30m per episode and multiply that for several hundred files, that doesnt scale.

Tagging a file with a Start / End Time would be an awesome thing, since the status quo wont make me use the recording feature at all. To get a good experience, i would have to edit every single file and thats throwing much times onto a problem, which would be easily solved with a simple marker to set. Embys recording features, especially those features about missing Episodes are really really great. As a user you would like to use that as soon as you recognize the usefullness of these settings.

That 1 in 5000 example is universal. You could block every feature in every software with this argument. I see it more like a missing piece in the recording area. I will let emby record stuff, but i will not merge those files in directories my family os looking at, cause they would get anoyed from those starts and endings. Maybe 1 in 5000 is using it exactly because of that. I have to agree with muppet4k, such a feature would make the recording function lenghts better

Edited April 25 by ManuelThallinge
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[visproduction 351]

MT,

AVIDemux or ffmpeg, for example, can edit out from start and end points in a 2 hour media and create a new edited copy without losing a generation.  Setup and creating the copy takes about 2 minutes for a 2 hour, 3GB media.  Reencoding would take a lot longer.  I do not believe Handbreak offers edit and copy.  I just wanted to make sure you are aware that a fast, same quality copy is possible with some software.  Your post seemed to indicate you were not aware of this.

ffmpeg could run multiple edits one media after another, if you had the exact edit out times for each media.  It would be possible to set up a batch edit and do hundreds of media files.  This method would do about 100 one-hour, 1080P shows in 60 minutes on any I7 speed computer.  Trying to reenode 100 media files, one at a time, with Handbreak would take days and you would lose a generation.  You just need to find a way to do it faster and in better quality, to solve the editing challenge.

Any new feature for editing in Emby would need updating, multiple times a year for every platform, separately, just to keep up with changes in audio / video codecs.  Supporting an editor would be very expensive to do.  It's a much better solution to use an editor that can handle making copies and let the 3rd party editor company, keep up to date with codec and issues. 

Hope that helps.

Edited April 25 by visproduction