The correct Naming for Miniseries?

[WingDog 16]

Hi!

I read this article but can't figure out how to make correct naming for Movies that are miniseries?

I'm talking about old USSR Movies like these:

https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/76829 (3 series)

https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/404448 (2 series)

https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/167627 (3 series)

and many other movies. there are a lot of Movies of those times that are all miniseries (2-7 series).

making #part1-7 will not correctly identify/count duration/play/download.
placing to the TV Show library will lead to identify failure and incorrect logic because it's Movies not Tv Show.

 

Edited June 19, 2025 by WingDog

[WingDog 16]

Any ideas, suggestions, thoughts?

[pwhodges 2012]

Well, as they're series, why not treat them as series, when TVDB knows them?

https://www.thetvdb.com/series/dartagnan-and-three-musketeers#seasons
https://www.thetvdb.com/series/captain-nemo#seasons

Though TVDB also only sees this one as a movie:

https://www.thetvdb.com/movies/bolshoye-priklyucheniye

Bear in mind you can also add metadata to Emby manually (then lock it to keep it in place); and indeed you can add missing info to both TVDB and TMDB for the benefit of other people with just a bit more effort.

Paul

[WingDog 16]

16 minutes ago, pwhodges said:

Well, as they're series, why not treat them as series, when TVDB knows them?

https://www.thetvdb.com/series/dartagnan-and-three-musketeers#seasons
https://www.thetvdb.com/series/captain-nemo#seasons

Though TVDB also only sees this one as a movie:

https://www.thetvdb.com/movies/bolshoye-priklyucheniye

Bear in mind you can also add metadata to Emby manually (then lock it to keep it in place); and indeed you can add missing info to both TVDB and TMDB for the benefit of other people with just a bit more effort.

Paul

It is quite possible that you are absolutely right. But then another question: how can I collect and keep it in one library? The historical and cultural layer of this time identifies these works as Movies, not TV series, and by all logic they should all be in one library.

[pwhodges 2012]

You could use a Mixed Content type library - but this is curiously restricted.  You can select the Movies tab or the Series tab, but to show all together you have to select the Folders tab (which is what I do in these cases - I make it the default, in fact).

Another approach is to make the items separate movies and combine them in a collection - setting the library to display collections while hiding the individual items.  Or, depending on how the metadata is structured, it might be possible to group them as versions of one movie - in which you have to select the version you want from a drop-down, but you can't force the order to be logical .

Paul

[Luke 42078]

For a mini series you would just name it like a series that has only one season, so the episodes would be season 1.

Does that answer your question?

[WingDog 16]

12 hours ago, Luke said:

Does that answer your question?

This gives a partial answer to the question, but does not lead to the desired result.

The desired result is one library for all USSR Movies and miniseries and normal series.

[Luke 42078]

Can't you do that with a mixed content library?

[WingDog 16]

2 hours ago, Luke said:

Can't you do that with a mixed content library?

I'm trying. It seems that it will be good solution for any English language based content. 

[Luke 42078]

How are your files named and organized?

[WingDog 16]

5 hours ago, Luke said:

How are your files named and organized?

Most of my files named in Russian language.year.partX.extension just like this

this is Captain Nemo

https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/167627

why partX? it's very clear - I'm moving from Plex to Emby and used the same UNC paths for Emby's libraries. In that case I have both Plex and Emby configured to use the same network shares as libraries. Using the "partX" option was my unsuccessful attempt to solve the same problem with Plex. there is no mixed type library and I didn't find any suitable solution.

Now I made additional share just for the Emby's mixed content type library and moving files there with rename, so the common logic is next:

if this is the only one episode Movie: name (year).extension

if this is more than one episode Movie (miniseries): Folder named as Movie (year) | name (year).sXXeXX.extension like this

 

[Luke 42078]

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if this is the only one episode Movie: name (year).extension

If you name it like a movie, does MovieDb also consider it a movie? 

[Luke 42078]

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if this is more than one episode Movie (miniseries): Folder named as Movie (year) | name (year).sXXeXX.extension like this

If you name it like a series, does tvdb also consider it a series?

[WingDog 16]

On 6/27/2025 at 11:29 PM, Luke said:

If you name it like a series, does tvdb also consider it a series?

only via manual identification. automatic matching is complete wrong.

[WingDog 16]

Ops!

https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/66091

https://www.thetvdb.com/movies/a-cruel-romance

can't get the correct match even via manual identification.

MovieDB manual search

TVDB manual search

 

[Happy2Play 9780]

On 6/24/2025 at 10:14 PM, WingDog said:

if this is more than one episode Movie (miniseries): Folder named as Movie (year) | name (year).sXXeXX.extension like this

In the end Mini-Series are TV (per TMDB/TVDB) and have to be in a TV library or named appropriately in a Mixed Content library and almost always will be on the /shows/* query of a provider site not /movie/* as shown in your urls. 

The exact same providerid and represent something totally different on each content type unlike a imdbid which can only represent one thing but is still dependent of TMDB/TVDB usage.

your example url above same ID 66091 but different results per content type.

https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/66091

https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/66091

 

There are many topics already on the Limitations of Mini-Series.

So complete examples showing structure and name have to be accounted for so Emby can guess what you want per content type detection.

 

 

Edited June 30, 2025 by Happy2Play

[WingDog 16]

6 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

So complete examples showing structure and name have to be accounted for so Emby can guess what you want per content type detection.

can you elaborate a little more how exactly the structure and name have to be  showing?

I can't understand what exactly I have to show.

folder tree with files?

Edited June 30, 2025 by WingDog

[Happy2Play 9780]

10 minutes ago, WingDog said:

can you elaborate a little more how exactly the structure and name have to be accounted?

A Mini-Series is always TV structure/Naming as they are a Series not multiple parts according to provider.

within TV or Mixed Content library

• name
  • season or SxxExx naming
    • SxxExx naming

 

Now that being said you will get different results using OMDB as they don't separate Movie/TV but will have limited metadata they provider and has to be top provider in a mixed content library.  But there is no fool proof way as you may end up with wrong providerids per provider site in some cases.

 

Edited June 30, 2025 by Happy2Play

[WingDog 16]

9 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

OMDB

The library-level OMBD does not match correctly.
There is no OMBD in the form of manual matching.

 

5 hours ago, WingDog said:

can't get the correct match even via manual identification.

here is screenshot

are these structure and name correct?

Edited June 30, 2025 by WingDog

[Happy2Play 9780]

2 minutes ago, WingDog said:

The library-level OMBD does not match correctly.
There is no OMBD in the form of manual matching.

 

here is screenshot

are this structure and name correct?

What exactly did you do?

I guess if you can type that name, I can copy and paste it to test it.

[WingDog 16]

18 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

What exactly did you do?

 

let's sync our clocks. are we telling about this matching problem?

5 hours ago, WingDog said:

Ops!

https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/66091

https://www.thetvdb.com/movies/a-cruel-romance

if so, I exactly did the "Mixed content library" with OMDB fetcher enabled 

 

and placed there a Folder named "MovieName (year)" and two episodes named MovieName (year).s01e01.mkv

after automatic identification this movie was matched as

this is not correct.

than I tried manual identification but got incorrect results.

the is no OMDB field in the manual identification form, so I didn't check that Movie via OMDB.

now I checked OMDB -  this Movie is not in it.

18 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

I guess if you can type that name, I can copy and paste it to test it.

here

"жестокий романс"

Edited June 30, 2025 by WingDog

[Happy2Play 9780]

One issue is with Emby all primary data comes from FIRST provider per your provider order, then all missing data comes from additional enabled providers so per your screenshot it will come from TVDB then TMDB then OMDB as you have it named as a Series so Detection will use that order.

But at the same time this is not a mini-series and you have a multi-part movies that technically probably should be combine into one file.  

But force it with IMDBid

 

But as mentioned this really is a multi-part media.  Reenabled providers, renamed to parts.

 

But note I am cheating as I am not using by NAME lookups, I am using Providerid lookups per folder naming scheme.

жестокий роман (1984) {imdbid=tt0090368}

 

 

[WingDog 16]

5 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

But at the same time this is not a mini-series and you have a multi-part movies that technically probably should be combine into one file.  

no, this not a multi-part movie. at the end of the first episode there is a title "the end of the first episode" and the second episode begins with the title "Episode two" - this is normal for all USSR/Russian Movies, that are now called "mini-series". so it should not be combined to one file.

9 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

renamed to parts.

this will lead to 

On 6/19/2025 at 2:36 PM, WingDog said:

making #part1-7 will not correctly identify/count duration/play/download.

especially on TV's and iPhones. this is incorrect way.

10 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

But note I am cheating as I am not using by NAME lookups, I am using Providerid lookups per folder naming scheme.

I don't want to come here with the every Movie in my library and spend your time to help me, but I'm looking for a well-understood and universal option for all such films. if it is necessary to use a scheme with the name of IMDB in the folder name - I will do so. it is necessary to write some NFO files - I will do them. but I need a single and universal way, because there are many fetchers here, and they do not work as I expect and Emby's internal logic is very unclear for me.

[Happy2Play 9780]

In the end it will be a lot of work making this something no provider has it so manually applying images as shown in the first image with limited provider metadata.

As you will not get seamless queries from TMDB or TVDB for something that is not truly a mini-series.

 

[WingDog 16]

5 hours ago, Happy2Play said:

As you will not get seamless queries from TMDB or TVDB for something that is not truly a mini-series.

that was the question of this topic.

5 hours ago, Happy2Play said:

In the end it will be a lot of work making this something no provider has it so manually applying images as shown in the first image with limited provider metadata.

automatic identification is not working well - that is new Movies and easy one-part-movie, but still failed (this screen is from the Movie library!)

 

but I'm talking about this right now. The point of this thread is USSR Movies and any clear and  identification process.