please let me have both restrictive *and* permissive tags

[m1stertim 2]

for example, dealing with kids - i use a 'no kiddos' tag in combination with parental ratings on movies and TV shows to restrict some PG things that aren't really PG (like 80s PG).  however, i've just recently added audiobooks, and since those don't have a central database to sync with rating information, and the vast majority are adult books, i want to be in permissive mode.  but i can't be in both permissive and restrictive mode for two different tags, because the tag restriction mode applies to *all* tags on a user account.  

 

additionally, being able to multi-select and apply a tag would be SUPER helpful

 

side note:  does tagging audiobooks not restrict them?  i had to go into metadata manager, as there was no tag menu item in the media view, but tagging at the folder level isn't restricting access to the media.  don't tell me i have to tag at the audio file level...

Edited April 24, 2025 by m1stertim

[Luke 42077]

Hi, yes this has come up before and it's possible for future updates. Thanks.

[GrimReaper 4739]

On 4/24/2025 at 8:16 PM, m1stertim said:

side note:  does tagging audiobooks not restrict them?  i had to go into metadata manager, as there was no tag menu item in the media view, but tagging at the folder level isn't restricting access to the media

You could use Folder-based access controls for permissive mode and Tag-based access control for restrictive mode? 

[m1stertim 2]

7 minutes ago, GrimReaper said:

You could use Folder-based access controls for permissive mode and Tag-based access control for restrictive mode? 

you mean via users\access\libraries if i split the audiobooks library into separate libraries?  or is there a cleaner way to do that?

[GrimReaper 4739]

4 minutes ago, m1stertim said:

you mean via users\access\libraries if i split the audiobooks library into separate libraries?

Not two separate libraries, same library with two separate folders as library paths. 

[ebr 16169]

19 hours ago, GrimReaper said:

Not two separate libraries, same library with two separate folders as library paths. 

Folder Based Access Control

[Clackdor 109]

On 5/20/2025 at 1:34 PM, GrimReaper said:

You could use Folder-based access controls for permissive mode and Tag-based access control for restrictive mode? 

The problem with this approach for parental controls is that it requires a lot of library/folder structure planning. Even then there are likely going to be annoying compromises that you may have to make.

Folder access works okay for TV series as you can just put Peppa pig, cocomelon, etc in their own library folder so that adults don't have to see them and kids can be given access to only those folders.

IMO movies are where this approach really can start to fall apart though. Kid/family friendly movies tend to appeal to a much larger age demographic than just kids. Movies are also more likely to have multiple versions/qualities in different  folders. 

It also gets harder to manage when you have kids in slightly different age groups where content that's appropriate for one kid may not be appropriate for another. Progressively allowing access to content as they get older is another issue that either requires extremely careful planning from the start or periodic library/folder restructuring if you're heavily relying on folder access controls.

IMO being able to specify both allow and deny tags is really what's needed to fill the gaps in the current parental controls system. In the case that an item has both allow and deny tags for a particular user, the deny tag should always take precedence.

I'll just close by saying that as a parent I'm always finding parental controls in general to either be too permissive, too restrictive, or just generally lacking much needed options/granularity to be useful. Saying it's frustrating would be an understatement.