Drag and drop cast order broken?

[Smitty018210 143]

@GrimReaperQuestion?

Could the issue be that I am doing this from a local networked PC and not the PC with the server on it?

(I am disabled and stuck in bed at the moment and moving back and forth to the server PC is kinda hard right now.)

Could this the result of some kind of weird permission issues?

[GrimReaper 4739]

30 minutes ago, Smitty018210 said:

Could the issue be that I am doing this from a local networked PC and not the PC with the server on it?

If TMM's writing NFOs to media folders, don't see that where from you're accessing your server could be an issue. 

[Smitty018210 143]

7 minutes ago, GrimReaper said:

If TMM's writing NFOs to media folders, don't see that where from you're accessing your server could be an issue. 

ok, I just trying to look at from different angles, thanks!

Edited April 3, 2025 by Smitty018210

[Smitty018210 143]

OK, so as a test I edited the cast at the "series" level in TMM and then refreshed the library and the changes were saved.

So the issue I am having is definitely at the episode level and emby not refreshing the metadata from the nfo

[Luke 42077]

5 hours ago, Smitty018210 said:

Yup everything is turned off

 

This might be why you think my drag and drop isn’t working.

[Smitty018210 143]

10 minutes ago, Luke said:

This might be why you think my drag and drop isn’t working.

@Luke

Yeah I am way past that now.

I am trying now to figure out why emby wont read changes I've made to the episode nfo file.

Emby should still be reading edits I've made to the nfo file and it's not.

Having those turned off shouldn't stop emby from refreshing and showing updated nfo file information that I manually edited right?

Edited April 3, 2025 by Smitty018210

[Luke 42077]

6 minutes ago, Smitty018210 said:

@Luke

Yeah I am way past that now.

I am trying now to figure out why emby wont read changes I've made to the episode nfo file.

Emby should still be reading edits I've made to the nfo file and it's not.

Having those turned off shouldn't stop emby from refreshing and showing updated nfo file information that I manually edited right?

Make sure the reader is enabled. Then you just wait for the real-time monitor to pick up the changes or run a normal library scan.

[GrimReaper 4739]

8 minutes ago, Smitty018210 said:

I am trying now to figure out why emby wont read changes I've made to the episode nfo file

Have you tried Refresh Meatada on Season level? That one picks episode NFO changes for me, too. 

[Smitty018210 143]

5 hours ago, Smitty018210 said:

Yes

@LukeYeah, that was already covered, and no the library scans and real-time monitor are not in fact picking up the changes.

[Luke 42077]

1 minute ago, GrimReaper said:

Have you tried Refresh Meatada on Season level? That one picks episode NFO changes for me, too. 

Refresh metadata isn’t the right way because that prioritizes internet metadata first, so the nfo edits will just get overwritten.

 It might work for you if all internet metadata is disabled.

[Luke 42077]

1 minute ago, Smitty018210 said:

@LukeYeah, that was already covered, and no the library scans and real-time monitor are not in fact picking up the changes.

As long as the date modified timestamp of the nfo file changes, then yes they’ll get picked up.

[Smitty018210 143]

14 minutes ago, GrimReaper said:

Have you tried Refresh Meatada on Season level? That one picks episode NFO changes for me, too. 

Yeah tired that too.

Even tired removing the whole folder from the library and ran scan and added it back to the library and scanned again. nothing,

I'm kinda at a loss for words here. Every little trick I've learned over the years isn't working.

Edited April 3, 2025 by Smitty018210

[Smitty018210 143]

5 minutes ago, Luke said:

As long as the date modified timestamp of the nfo file changes, then yes they’ll get picked up.

@Luke

the nfo and server logs were posted earlier in a post.

Take a look at it if you can and let me know.

Its been more than 5 hours and about 20 re-scans of my library and it's not picking any changes up.

Edited April 3, 2025 by Smitty018210

[GrimReaper 4739]

3 minutes ago, Luke said:

Refresh metadata isn’t the right way because that prioritizes internet metadata first, so the nfo edits will just get overwritten.

 It might work for you if all internet metadata is disabled.

 

7 hours ago, Smitty018210 said:

I don't use Emby to download metadata (I use TMM) and have all metadata downloading disabled in Emby

 

6 hours ago, GrimReaper said:

Are you positive you have all metadata-downloaders disabled in Emby

 

6 hours ago, Smitty018210 said:

Yup everything is turned off

 

 

[Smitty018210 143]

4 minutes ago, Luke said:

Refresh metadata isn’t the right way because that prioritizes internet metadata first, so the nfo edits will just get overwritten.

 It might work for you if all internet metadata is disabled.

All of the internet downloading is turned off

[Smitty018210 143]

Ok, so I think it has some thing to do with this: <type>GuestStar</type>

Any of the actors that have that "type" under the actors name in the nfo file emby dose not honor the changes made to the order of the cast list.

If I go in and delete that line of code from the nfo file then I run a liberty scan then emby see the changes and reorders the actor list.

I am guess this something that TMM adds that emby dose not and that is what is causing the issue.

 

Edited April 3, 2025 by Smitty018210

[Happy2Play 9780]

6 minutes ago, Smitty018210 said:

Ok, so I think it has some thing to do with this: <type>GuestStar</type>

Any of the actors that have that "type" under the actors name in the nfo file emby dose not honor the changes made to the order of the cast list.

If I go in and delete that line of code from the nfo file then I run a liberty scan then emby see the changes and reorders the actor list.

 

Can you provide a specific example?

[Happy2Play 9780]

But had no issue reordering gueststar/writer/director on episodes.

[Smitty018210 143]

9 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

Can you provide a specific example?

Hey Happy, I uploaded the nfo file before in an earlier post, but here it is again.

 

If you look at actor Genelle Williams for example she has <type>GuestStar</type> under her name.

If I try and move her in the cast listing it dose not show up in emby, but If I go into the nfo file delete that line of code then emby see the change and it shows up.

 

Should add that I am not getting actor list form TVDB.

I have TMM set to download actors list from TMBD.

Could that be what is causing this issue?

 

 

 

Warehouse 13 - 1x01 - Pilot.nfo

Edited April 3, 2025 by Smitty018210

[GrimReaper 4739]

6 minutes ago, Smitty018210 said:

I have TMM set to download actors list from TMBD

It appears you're getting them from IMDB - check your Universal scraper settings in TMM. 

[Smitty018210 143]

1 minute ago, GrimReaper said:

It appears you're getting them from IMDB - check your Universal scraper settings in TMM. 

Wait I am? That's what is causing it?

[Smitty018210 143]

Just now, Smitty018210 said:

Wait I am? That's what is causing it?

I was. I just changed it. Going to re-scan

[Happy2Play 9780]

5 minutes ago, Smitty018210 said:

Hey Happy, I uploaded the nfo file before in an earlier post, but here it is again.

 

If you look at actor Genelle Williams for example she has <type>GuestStar</type> under her name.

If I try and move her in the cast listing it dose not show up in emby, but If I go into the nfo file delete that line of code then emby see the change and it shows up

 

 

 

Warehouse 13 - 1x01 - Pilot.nfo 12.2 kB · 0 downloads

I had no issue drag and droping this actor.

 

But you have to ensure you maintain your Cast Lock unless you have Emby writing nfo files to rewrite the actual order.

[Happy2Play 9780]

One thing I did notice since nfo is already locked the locked cast never gets written (unless nfo saver is enabled), so a double refresh puts them back to original nfo order.

<lockedfields>Cast</lockedfields>

 

[Smitty018210 143]

15 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

I had no issue drag and droping this actor.

 

But you have to ensure you maintain your Cast Lock unless you have Emby writing nfo files to rewrite the actual order.

Oh man, Happy we are way past the drag and drop issue.

That's were I thought the issues was, but it's not.

I don't let emby mange my metadata.

and turned off Metadata Savers>NFO earlier this morning at grim's advice.

The issue now is that emby is not seeing the manual edits that I make to the cast list in TMM and the edits to the nfo file.

 

 

Edited April 3, 2025 by Smitty018210