LG 2025 TV's have DTS support dropped AGAIN

[unisoft 352]

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1743140114

After removing DTS audio support in the past and reintroducing it with its 2023 models, LG is once again dropping DTS support on its 2025 OLED and LCD TVs.

The confirmation comes from Vincent Teoh, who verified this through the EDID information on the LG G5. He believes this applies to all LG 2025 TVs, both OLED and LCD.

FlatpanelsHD agrees with Teoh's assessment about the full line-up, as we actually heard from industry insiders at CES 2025 that DTS would be removed from the 2025 models. 

 

This is going to upset some people, and Emby have to put checks if they haven't already....

[yocker 1247]

2 hours ago, unisoft said:

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1743140114

After removing DTS audio support in the past and reintroducing it with its 2023 models, LG is once again dropping DTS support on its 2025 OLED and LCD TVs.

The confirmation comes from Vincent Teoh, who verified this through the EDID information on the LG G5. He believes this applies to all LG 2025 TVs, both OLED and LCD.

FlatpanelsHD agrees with Teoh's assessment about the full line-up, as we actually heard from industry insiders at CES 2025 that DTS would be removed from the 2025 models. 

 

This is going to upset some people, and Emby have to put checks if they haven't already....

LG probably going to make sound formats a subscription.
I wouldn't put it past them!

Anyway.. That makes both Samsung and LG brands to avoid (in my opinion).
Samsung, lacking formats like Dolby Vision and some audio formats.
LG lacking DTS and only Dolby Vision in MP4.

A streaming box like the shield and an AVR is almost mandatory at this point.

Sorry for the small rant.

[Luke 42077]

3 hours ago, yocker said:

LG probably going to make sound formats a subscription.
I wouldn't put it past them!

Anyway.. That makes both Samsung and LG brands to avoid (in my opinion).
Samsung, lacking formats like Dolby Vision and some audio formats.
LG lacking DTS and only Dolby Vision in MP4.

A streaming box like the shield and an AVR is almost mandatory at this point.

Sorry for the small rant.

If they actually did this, I think it makes sense.

Nowadays everybody wants atmos and DV, but not everyone wants DTS. So why make everyone pay for DTS in the form of higher TV prices.

[yocker 1247]

1 hour ago, Luke said:

If they actually did this, I think it makes sense.

Nowadays everybody wants atmos and DV, but not everyone wants DTS. So why make everyone pay for DTS in the form of higher TV prices.

Because having something taken way just for it to be offered back at a cost is just pure greed,
If the hardware is already capable of doing it why need a subscription to enable something you already paid for? They would already be paying license for DTS anyway if they can offer it.
It would be like when car manufactures *cough* BWM *cough* wanted a subscription fee for heated seats. Something you already paid for since it's installed in the car from the factory.

Subscriptions also tend to have their terms and prices change constantly making it hard to follow for any consumer.

Edited April 1, 2025 by yocker

[Luke 42077]

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Because having something taken way just for it to be offered back at a cost is just pure greed,

I agree but if the current pattern is not sustainable then sometimes you have to make a change. They must feel that way.  Especially with a niche feature like this, it doesn't make sense to make everyone pay for it. I know you feel like you already paid for it, but these licenses are typically annual, which means they have to keep paying for it into the future whereas you only paid them once. The money has to come from somewhere, so either they raise prices on the TVs and lose sales to cheaper options, or reduce the quality of the TVs, or make you pay for it a la cart.

And just to clarify, in our world DTS is not niche, but to the mainstream it is.

[yocker 1247]

47 minutes ago, Luke said:

I agree but if the current pattern is not sustainable then sometimes you have to make a change. They must feel that way.  Especially with a niche feature like this, it doesn't make sense to make everyone pay for it. I know you feel like you already paid for it, but these licenses are typically annual, which means they have to keep paying for it into the future whereas you only paid them once. The money has to come from somewhere, so either they raise prices on the TVs and lose sales to cheaper options, or reduce the quality of the TVs, or make you pay for it a la cart.

And just to clarify, in our world DTS is not niche, but to the mainstream it is.

If a subscription fee was really to cover the cost then releasing an app made by the makers of DTS that unlocks it for a fee going to the makers of DTS instead would be more appropriate.
Instead the subscription fee most likely goes to LG proving they just want more money instead of having a fee covered.

But let's see.. While i did joke about it,  i really doubt they will do something like that. The backlash would be huge i think.

[CrappyUserName 30]

On 4/2/2025 at 9:41 AM, Luke said:

I know you feel like you already paid for it, but these licenses are typically annual, which means they have to keep paying for it into the future whereas you only paid them once.

That needs more explanation. Pretty sure it's per unit sold. Not an annual fee in perpetuity. LG are not paying for the DTS support on my 10 year old TV.

If I pay $5k for a TV, it better play DTS. If they want to strip DTS from their cheaper models then fair enough, but trying to save a 2 figure royalty fee on a flagship TV is bonkers.

 

[unisoft 352]

Confirmed. Even on top of the range OLED, the G5 (2025 models), LG 100% has dropped DTS decoding on the TV. I think you have to use Passthru - but haven't tested this as don't use DTS as I moved away from it when the Apple TV did not support it, and I kind of guessed that the world would move to Dolby Digital Plus and Atmos which is mostly where the streamers are at (though Disney does offer a few titles in DTS, as well as Dolby Digital Plus/Atmos). The latter two working perfectly Ok on the TV.

Not sure why LG could not have made a codec pack in the store for those that want it, either free (still a large reduction from every set having it by default, because average user would just use what a streamer provides which isn't usually DTS), or for small charge. A bit similar to Microsoft.

Edited May 25, 2025 by unisoft

[unisoft 352]

Passthru of DTS is NOT supported on LG 2025 models. Confirmed. You need to connect to soundbar directly or receiver to get DTS.