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toastedmobile
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I have setup so that there are different libraries for different users. completely different folders. however when going to genres the thumbnail to the genres shows images from media/libraries that they don't have access to. also the collections thumbnail on the home page shows images from media/libraries they don't have access to, I haven't tried this with music yet, but I would assume it will produce the same results. Looking at the metadata manager it appears genres and collections are not library specific? They should be library specific.

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GrimReaper
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15 minutes ago, toastedmobile said:

when going to genres the thumbnail to the genres shows images from media/libraries that they don't have access to. also the collections thumbnail on the home page shows images from media/libraries they don't have access to

Those images (tag images also) are user-agnostic, currentlt your best bet is to assign those images manually, many examples can be found in Fan Art & Videos Forum section. 

toastedmobile
Posted

I don't think you understand the issue. The collection images and genre images whether downloaded by fan art or applied manually are not user/library specific. User1 has access to media because I am pointing them at a library specifically in the user access. this library is not shared with anyone else.

I then have another user (user2) who has access to their own library in the same way.

The Admin account has access to the entire media.

but user1 and user2 are seeing images/metadata from media/libraries they do not have access to

Go into the metadata manager and you will see that collections and genre metadata is not managed per library, it is managed globally. basically whatever metadata that is saved for genres or collections is visible by any user regardless of their library/media access 

GrimReaper
Posted

I can hardly follow all that, specific example would be required (preferably with some screenshots). 

 

toastedmobile
Posted

I am confused how that is difficult to follow?? I have given you literally step by step of the configuration and also where to go to see the default functionality of the metadata?

toastedmobile
Posted (edited)

Also The default functionality of the metadata is a dead giveaway as to why I have the issue I am describing as well, and I have stated that the collections and genre metadata should be library specific always, and in fact really all metadata should be user/library specific, but we can see when you go into the metadata manager as the admin the metadata is not library or user specific for collections and genre

I am pointing out a flaw in the way Emby manages the metadata

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GrimReaper
Posted (edited)

My very first reply was:

35 minutes ago, GrimReaper said:

Those images (tag images also) are user-agnostic, currentlt your best bet is to assign those images manually, many examples can be found in Fan Art & Videos Forum section. 

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In a technology context, "user-agnostic" means a system, design, or approach that is not specific to any particular user or group of users

Auto-created genre images, tag images or library thumbs are generally also library-agnostic (they're concatenated from content across all libraries - or from all content within the library, regardless of access rights, in case of library thumbs), but you can assign any neutral image manually to any genre, tag or library and all users will be seeing that image. Besides that, I honestly have no idea what else you'd be referring to. 

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toastedmobile
Posted (edited)

And my reply was to explain the issue in more detail, but you found it difficult to understand

Collections and genres are not user or library specific.... i have given an example of how to see this is not the case.

If it was not the case then my two users would not be able to see metadata/images of media they do not have access to.

How is that you are not understand that I have an issue which is clear, but you are refuting it's existance instead of helping.

From a support perspective and as a moderator i don't find you helpful, just dismissive. Your response relling me you couldn't follow the simple steps makes me feel you haven't set one of these up yourself....???

The issue exists, telling me it doesn't and to just apply it manually does not fix the issue, because you cannot apply metadata/images to the collections/genre manually. The collections and genre metadata/images is aggregated from the content that is available in Emby, but it is displaying images of entire media that the Emby Admin has access to, not just what the user has access to.

You can't change what Emby displays as collections or genre because it is an automated process. You can change the media metadata but not the collections or genre.

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GrimReaper
Posted

I'm really scratching my head trying to understand that:

Just now, toastedmobile said:

Collections and genres are not user or library specific

They are not, I've said that two times already:

46 minutes ago, GrimReaper said:

Those images (tag images also) are user-agnostic

 

20 minutes ago, GrimReaper said:

Auto-created genre images, tag images or library thumbs are generally also library-agnostic

with extensive explanation. Maybe it will change in the future but currently they ain't. 

So I don't understand what is being refuted?

2 minutes ago, toastedmobile said:

but you are refuting it's existance

You have to change those images manually:

23 minutes ago, GrimReaper said:

you can assign any neutral image manually to any genre, tag or library and all users will be seeing that image

On any genre, tag or any library thumb (including Collections library on the Home Screen): Right click (or three-dot menu)>Edit Images>select desired Primary image. 

6 minutes ago, toastedmobile said:

because you cannot apply metadata/images to the collections/genre manually.

Of course you can, it's written above. 

Happy2Play
Posted

TLDR:  So is this about the images or the libraries themselves as there are parental controls issue when yes these are visible but EMPTY in 4.8 per many topic with improvement in 4.9.

But as mentioned there is only one image for Genre/Tags/Collections/Libraries that is visible to all users so you the admin have to assign static images if there is images one these dynamic created images.

 

I guess the only way around this would be the server only create images based off the most restricted user.  

Also don't really see why this topic is in WMC as it is not a client issue.

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GrimReaper
Posted (edited)
21 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

So is this about the images or the libraries themselves

Based on this:

4 hours ago, toastedmobile said:

when going to genres the thumbnail to the genres shows images from media/libraries that they don't have access to. also the collections thumbnail on the home page shows images from media/libraries they don't have access to

I've assumed it's about images and in the very first post advised the only current solution: manually assign substitute images - and provided link to the forum section where multiple sets of genre and My Media/Library images could be found. 

Based on this:

4 hours ago, toastedmobile said:

but user1 and user2 are seeing images/metadata from media/libraries they do not have access to

I've again assumed it's images, but OP's telling me that I don't understand - so it obviously are not images? 

Then again, based on this:

3 hours ago, toastedmobile said:

because you cannot apply metadata/images to the collections/genre manually. The collections and genre metadata/images is aggregated from the content that is available in Emby, but it is displaying images of entire media that the Emby Admin has access to, not just what the user has access to.

You can't change what Emby displays as collections or genre because it is an automated process.

I can still only interpret it being images-related, but that was disputed above.

Guess my english is hitting its limit as I fail to interpret it in any other way - though with all the temper-tantrums I'm not particularly inclined to put more effort. 

You might be right and it's actually about items/content within, though I'd assume it could've been explained in much simpler terms if that was the case. As OP was unwilling to share even a single screenshot, it remains a mystery. 

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Happy2Play
Posted
1 minute ago, GrimReaper said:

I'd assume it could've been explained in much simpler terms if that was the case.

True as specific examples with screenshot are always easy to understand.

 

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