WavPack support

[softworkz 5065]

2 minutes ago, Ronstang said:

Oh, obviously.  Then again I don't care at all about gapless playback at all for any reason I can think of at all.  

 

In that case, the important sentence for you is this:  

1 hour ago, softworkz said:

MPV audio playback is planned for the Linux app and could be used in the Windows app as well (like said a number of times already).

It will still have gapless playback, I hope you won't mind 

[Guest]

20 minutes ago, softworkz said:

Like explained above, that's the easy part. The playlist part is the "difficult" one.  In theater, there was just some javascript code for integration of mpv as a NaCL browser plugin (like how Flash player was brought into web pages). The new app is written from scratch (the outer part, not the core app which is shared with most other apps).

So what's wrong doing the basics for now and have much better audio support, and then work on playlists later?

I've just been testing with playlists in mpv, theater and the new app. I can't tell the difference in the transition between tracks. They all sound the same. What I will say is that seeking while playing in the new app sucks ass. It pauses for a few seconds before resuming, sometimes it doesn't resume, and other times it skips to the next track. It's useless. Theater and mpv are really smooth with no issues. And playlists are a very low priority anyway. You have to be able to play the audio first, which clearly isn't happening here.

[Guest]

I should add that I was playing Pink Floyd -The Wall. So the tracks are continuous.

[softworkz 5065]

19 minutes ago, generiq said:

So what's wrong doing the basics for now and have much better audio support, and then work on playlists later?

1. (Once gain) Development for this release is completed, there is no "for now"
2. Neither you nor I are setting the requirements, and playlist support has been such requirement

19 minutes ago, generiq said:

They all sound the same. What I will say is that seeking while playing in the new app sucks ass. It pauses for a few seconds before resuming, sometimes it doesn't resume, and other times it skips to the next track. It's useless.

I cannot reproduce, if you see that, then it's clearly a bug.

I've sent you an upload link. Could you please upload the media where you are seeing this and let me know how exactly you were playing  and seeking?

Thanks

Edited January 27, 2025 by softworkz

[softworkz 5065]

To conclude on the actual topic:

• as discussed, it is currently not possible to support directplay for WavPack containers (all kinds)
• since version 2.212.0 though, these files are playing at least via server transcoding
• a future switch to using MPV for audio playback might be able to remedy that situation

Thanks to all for the discussion!

[Ronstang 293]

On 2/11/2025 at 8:36 AM, softworkz said:

To conclude on the actual topic:

• as discussed, it is currently not possible to support directplay for WavPack containers (all kinds)
• since version 2.212.0 though, these files are playing at least via server transcoding
• a future switch to using MPV for audio playback might be able to remedy that situation

Thanks to all for the discussion!

If you will be switching to MPV for audio playback then when, or is this simply ruminating to lead us to believe in something that is not actually going to ever happen?  Open ended time frames around here are what is holding emby back.  I love emby and use it every day but there are so many things wrong for me.  I have been waiting for the promised TVNext for how long....hm, 5 years!!  And I will likely get rid of cable TV before I ever see it so very disappointing.  It is pathetic that as powerful as emby could be I only use it to record content I plan to edit using the browser app and then watch that content after I have encoded it myself.

MPV does play wavpak files, images too, I just tested it.  I am not asking for it to play images or even understand them but my CD collection is of decent size and it has all been ripped to wavpack and I would like to play them as is with no transcoding for many reasons.  I really do not want to spend many many months converting all my wavpack stuff to FLAC.

Wavpack is better than FLAC in every respect, period.  It is a waste of time and more SSDs to convert it to an inferior codec.  FLAC was great 20 years ago when it was one of the only things available but it has been surpassed.

I would love to be able to use emby in my shop to listen to music but sadly I just use a cell phone with Musicolet because it actually does what I want it to do but I only have access to a subset of my collection.

[Jdiesel 1431]

I'd put my hope into this over any official Emby app for music playback. It's very early and has no official release yet but it's gotten my hopes up for a dedicated music solution.

 

 

[Ronstang 293]

3 minutes ago, Jdiesel said:

I'd put my hope into this over any official Emby app for music playback. It's very early and has no official release yet but it's gotten my hopes up for a dedicated music solution.

 

 

Pretty sad that you have to rely on individual app developers to allow emby to do what is should already do.  

[arthurmv 14]

On 2/11/2025 at 6:36 AM, softworkz said:

To conclude on the actual topic:

• as discussed, it is currently not possible to support directplay for WavPack containers (all kinds)
• since version 2.212.0 though, these files are playing at least via server transcoding
• a future switch to using MPV for audio playback might be able to remedy that situation

Thanks to all for the discussion!

I'm using Emby Windows v2.234.2.0

The app still doesn't play DSD in WavPack containers on my end.

[Luke 42077]

12 minutes ago, arthurmv said:

I'm using Emby Windows v2.234.2.0

The app still doesn't play DSD in WavPack containers on my end.

Hi, we are looking into it. Thanks.