Why does Emby make it so difficult to discover media?

[Gilgamesh_48 1240]

12 minutes ago, 242Movies said:

I agree with this.

And if plugins like smart playlists or Trakt/MDBList collections are downloaded frequently then they can be implemented as a core feature

I agree with this but I am unconvinced that even a popular plugin should be moved to being in the core code. I do not see much of an advantage in doing this and even more I do not think many "features" that are not needed for basic functionality should be part of the code. In general if a feature is not used by even 10% of the users then it should not be part of the code. Of course, if Emby chooses, they can have any part of their program be implemented as a plugin or be part of the core code. Emby owns all aspects of their code so they can do as they wish.

Frequency of downloading a plugin is not a reliable way to determine its popularity nor is even the amount of time it is allowed to remain installed. I have downloaded many many plugins over the years and then removed many because they did not work the way i thought the might. But i have also left some plugins installed far longer than they deserved to be because they do not get in the way and i forgot about installing them. 

Edited December 17, 2024 by Gilgamesh_48
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[bandit8623 213]

14 minutes ago, 242Movies said:

I agree with this.

And if plugins like smart playlists or Trakt/MDBList collections are downloaded frequently then they can be implemented as a core feature

i moved to emby for live tv.  if live tv is then a plugin its no longer part of the core.  i dont care i guess as long as it works...  but i shouldnt have to find a plugin to use a basic feature i payed for initially

[Gilgamesh_48 1240]

3 minutes ago, bandit8623 said:

i moved to emby for live tv.  if live tv is then a plugin its no longer part of the core.  i dont care i guess as long as it works...  but i shouldnt have to find a plugin to use a basic feature i payed for initially

Emby preinstalls many plugins that can be removed later if wanted. Maybe Live TV should be pre-installed. It is much like DLNA in that it is needed/wanted by many but should not be part of the default code. 

[Jdiesel 1431]

The biggest benefit to have having components as plugins is that incremental updates can be made without having to compile 140 different packages every single time a small update is made. Guide data, tvdb provider, dnla are all examples where frequent small updates are needed.

[Jdiesel 1431]

I'm optimistic that smart playlists will get some attention from the Emby team in the near future. This week we got some adjustments to the Auto quality settings that I never expected would happen so there is hope. A new windows/Xbox app is on the way and it looks great too. Stuff does happen but it moves slowly. 

[bandit8623 213]

39 minutes ago, Jdiesel said:

I'm optimistic that smart playlists will get some attention from the Emby team in the near future. This week we got some adjustments to the Auto quality settings that I never expected would happen so there is hope. A new windows/Xbox app is on the way and it looks great too. Stuff does happen but it moves slowly. 

the windows app has been otw for over a year   thats where more info would be nice

[Gilgamesh_48 1240]

9 minutes ago, bandit8623 said:

the windows app has been otw for over a year   thats where more info would be nice

OTW is an acronym for so many different things that I wonder what exactly is meant here. From context it is probably "On the way" but it could be a lot of other things. Like: 
https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/OTW

BTW: I hate acronyms.   

Edited December 17, 2024 by Gilgamesh_48

[bandit8623 213]

3 minutes ago, Gilgamesh_48 said:

OTW is an acronym for so many different things that I wonder what exactly is meant here. From context it is probably "On the way" but it could be a lot of other things. Like: 
https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/OTW

on the way.  LOL

Edited December 17, 2024 by bandit8623

[Jdiesel 1431]

35 minutes ago, bandit8623 said:

the windows app has been otw for over a year   thats where more info would be nice

Check out the testing forum for the lastest information. @softworkzhas been very transparent about the timelines and development. The beta has been ongoing for a couple of months now and the public release is under Microsoft Store review ATM. ETA is outside of Emby control, could be a day, could be a week, could be a month.

[bandit8623 213]

6 minutes ago, Jdiesel said:

Check out the testing forum for the lastest information. @softworkzhas been very transparent about the timelines and development. The beta has been ongoing for a couple of months now and the public release is under Microsoft Store review ATM. ETA is outside of Emby control, could be a day, could be a week, could be a month.

Who uses the windows store?

[Gilgamesh_48 1240]

6 minutes ago, Jdiesel said:

ETA is outside of Emby control, could be a day, could be a week, could be a month.

Or it could be never. It is always a crap shoot when implementation is outsourced.  

[Happy2Play 9780]

2 minutes ago, bandit8623 said:

Who uses the windows store?

Everyone that will want to use the new windows app.

[Jdiesel 1431]

2 minutes ago, bandit8623 said:

Who uses the windows store?

Whether you realize it or not, everyone who uses Windows.

It's been explained by the Devs why those choose the delivery method that they have. I won't defend it but I understand it.

[Guest]

I wish there were an external download for it. I'm a control freak. But the store provides an update cycle that is useful for the developers.

[bandit8623 213]

10 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

Everyone that will want to use the new windows app.

pretty dumb as many people dont create a microsoft account.  much more simple to just have a downloadable file

Edited December 17, 2024 by bandit8623

[bandit8623 213]

10 minutes ago, Jdiesel said:

Whether you realize it or not, everyone who uses Windows.

It's been explained by the Devs why those choose the delivery method that they have. I won't defend it but I understand it.

huh? you dont need to create a microsoft account to install windows...anyone that cares about privacy uses an offline account

Edited December 17, 2024 by bandit8623

[Mahinepua 81]

You can always pull the app from the ms store and install manually you just wont get automatic updates, a ms account isnt needed.

Edited December 17, 2024 by Mahinepua

[Gilgamesh_48 1240]

9 minutes ago, Mahinepua said:

You can always pull the app from the ms store and install manually you just wont get automatic updates, a ms account isnt needed.

I am not doubting you but I have never known that there was a way to access a MS store without a MS account. How does one go about doing that?

Pulling an app from the MS store seems to need a MS account.

[Guest]

14 minutes ago, Gilgamesh_48 said:

I am not doubting you but I have never known that there was a way to access a MS store without a MS account. How does one go about doing that?

Pulling an app from the MS store seems to need a MS account.

Use a local account instead of a Microsoft account. That's what I do.

[Guest]

Well, I suppose you still need an account for the store. But you can just set up a random microsoft email account that you never use, and use that to sign into the store.

I depends on what you want to do. For the beta testing, we needed an account, but for general function you don't have to sign into the store.

I just signed out and I can still download public release apps.

Edited December 17, 2024 by generiq

[softworkz 5066]

Let's clear this up!

You don't need a Microsoft Account for using the Windows Store.

I don't know the situation when you have set up Windows (or added a user) with a Microsoft account, because I've never done that. But if you do so, then the store should really be your least concern...

But when you set up Windows with a local account (or Domain with Windows Server), then you are using the store without any login by default. You can't buy anything of course, but you can install anything you like of what's free of charge and at the side of applications, that's by far the majority. While people are happily buying apps on their Apple and Android phones, this has never got much traction on Windows. If there's payment involved, then it's most of the time about payment inside the apps which often doesn't even go through the store as MS doesn't restrict that in the way like all the other stores do.

In the Windows Store app, you can log in and out by clicking on the person circle in the title bar:

 

 

There's one case where login is required:

Store Login is required for Beta Users (only!)

The reasons for this are

• We want to keep close contact to the beta users instead of just throwing it out by publishing a link, where we might get little to no feedback and users (many are not reading any text) think we have a bad app
• Applications for a private audience are much easier to get into the store than public applications

The way it works is really simple: We add the user's e-mail to a list in the store portal and when the user is logged in to the store with that e-mail they will be able to see the app and install it. You can even log out of the store immediately after installation without loosing the app. But then you don't get updates autiomatically until you log in again.

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But once again, to make it very clear for partial-readers:

You don't need to log in to the Store for getting the stable Versions

 

Edited December 18, 2024 by softworkz