Windows 11

[Sammy 790]

So I searched "Windows 11" and didn't get specific results..

I remember Windows 10 was going to be the last version of Windows. Now it is EOL with no security updates. I really don't want to have to invest in new hardware and the time for building a machine and setting it up to change to Windows 11 because my perfectly functional Ryzen 3700x doesn't have the necessary secure hardware.

What is the ramifications of just staying on Windows 10 until I abs0lutely have to build a new machine?

[Luke 42077]

Or you could just update. There are some annoying ui changes but other than that it’s mostly better.

[Neminem 1516]

If upgrade to windows 11 fails, convert to linux

I guess many will, windows don't believe in reuse off hardware.

[Sammy 790]

1 hour ago, Luke said:

Or you could just update. There are some annoying ui changes but other than that it’s mostly better.

The problem is my hardware isn't Windows 11 compliant but functions perfectly fine.

[Sammy 790]

17 minutes ago, Neminem said:

If upgrade to windows 11 fails, convert to linux

I guess many will, windows don't believe in reuse off hardware.

I'm already planning on this for my NUC running HomeAssistant so I don't have to run it in a VM but rather just bare metal.

For my everyday driver and Emby Server I'm not sure I want to do that yet.

[d00zah 149]

1 hour ago, Sammy said:

The problem is my hardware isn't Windows 11 compliant but functions perfectly fine.

You can create a shortcut to 'setup.exe' on the disc & modify the target to 'setup /product server' IIRC. I updated some older machines & except for one missing 'protected mode' driver (Hauppauge 2250), both systems have been fat/dumb/happy ever since. YMMV edit: image drive 1st

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It says Windows Server but it's not actually. I had installed Windows 10 Pro and after going through the setup now it's Windows 11 Pro.

 

Edited October 23, 2024 by d00zah

[darkassassin07 652]

With windows Recall being built into Windows Explorer now; I'd rather not own a pc than use Win 11. It was the push I needed to finally purge windows from my systems and go full linux.

 

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/software/windows/microsoft-confirms-that-windows-11-recall-ai-is-not-optional-a-glitch-made-it-appear-so-in-the-windows-11-24h2-kb5041865-update

 

Microsoft can go fornicate a cactus.

[Gilgamesh_48 1240]

2 hours ago, darkassassin07 said:

With windows Recall being built into Windows Explorer now; I'd rather not own a pc than use Win 11. It was the push I needed to finally purge windows from my systems and go full linux.

 

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/software/windows/microsoft-confirms-that-windows-11-recall-ai-is-not-optional-a-glitch-made-it-appear-so-in-the-windows-11-24h2-kb5041865-update

 

Microsoft can go fornicate a cactus.

While i mostly agree I just cannot bring myself to take the same route. I have investigated Linux several times and I have yet to see a Linux distribution that has some basic tools i need. They lack good solid drive pooling software and their stupid "high tech" implementations are simply too complex for daily use for me. The command line should NOT ever be needed to complete a task. However I also have zero desire to move to Windows 11 as I find 10 very acceptable. The so called security concerns are nearly meaningless as I am the only user in my home and I allow nothing that even might be exploitable by bad actors. My network is quite secure and for anybody to access it they would need to be physically inside my home and that would mean my problems are much greater than simple intrusion into my computer system.

I wish MS would simply allow existing Win 10 installations to run for ever but, at my age, Win 10s usefulness will probably exceed mine by a few years. 

Now if someone were to actually design a truly user friendly Linux distribution I might decide differently but the Linux community are such snobs that I doubt that will ever happen. The Linux community is about as "friendly" as the average pack of pit bulls.

[Happy2Play 9780]

1 hour ago, Gilgamesh_48 said:

I wish MS would simply allow existing Win 10 installations to run for ever

We it will until technology supersedes it just as it has for Windows 7 with TLS change update.

[Gilgamesh_48 1240]

2 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

We it will until technology supersedes it just as it has for Windows 7 with TLS change update.

Of course you will. You have a good margin of integrity, something MS (Microsoft) lacks or has never heard of. 

Of all the companies i could worry about not supporting Win 10 Emby is way down the list. Of course I am, probably, only good for another few years and then my worries about operating systems will end unless i am very wrong about the afterlife if it even exists. I wonder if "new" souls are considered a mandatory upgrade to Heaven? If so my "hardware" may be too old to support the new system.   

[CBers 7450]

16 hours ago, Sammy said:

So I searched "Windows 11" and didn't get specific results..

I remember Windows 10 was going to be the last version of Windows. Now it is EOL with no security updates. I really don't want to have to invest in new hardware and the time for building a machine and setting it up to change to Windows 11 because my perfectly functional Ryzen 3700x doesn't have the necessary secure hardware.

What is the ramifications of just staying on Windows 10 until I abs0lutely have to build a new machine?

Windows 10 is not EOL until 14th October 2025, so you have a year still.

Windows 11 can be installed on non-compliant hardware, although I believe only a fresh install will work.

I have done it already on a few laptops I have. See this link.
 

[Sammy 790]

Oops. Read 2025 as 2024..

[Sammy 790]

13 hours ago, darkassassin07 said:

With windows Recall being built into Windows Explorer now; I'd rather not own a pc than use Win 11. It was the push I needed to finally purge windows from my systems and go full linux.

 

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/software/windows/microsoft-confirms-that-windows-11-recall-ai-is-not-optional-a-glitch-made-it-appear-so-in-the-windows-11-24h2-kb5041865-update

 

Microsoft can go fornicate a cactus.

While that's concerning my life is just not that interesting..

Nevertheless, a reason to stay on 10 a while longer. Unless I were to completely rethink my setup and go to Linux I'll probably just run 10 past EOL just like I did with 7.

[Abobader 3463]

They are also ESU (Extended Security Update) from like 1-3 years for whom want to go that way, but you need to be on ver pro and up.

At one point, we will update to current windows ver, i was hoping for ver 12, but seem that will not happens.

[darkassassin07 652]

1 hour ago, Sammy said:

While that's concerning my life is just not that interesting..

It's the publics disinterest in topics like these that has allowed our rights to privacy to be continuously eroded.

 

To me, the 'nothing to hide' argument is very much equivalent to: 'I have nothing to say; it's why I don't support freedom of speech'

 

 

Information gleaned from systems like this is used purely against you, not for your benefit. A fairly recent example is insurance companies raising your rates due to your car collecting your driving habbits and selling them to the highest bidder, usually without your consent or knowledge. (sauce) (more) and that one is intended by the manufacturer; we haven't even gotten into malicious parties gaining access to these types of systems.

 

In other words: Yes, your life IS that interesting; and corporations are paying out the nose to gain access to it so they can use it to extract more revenue out of you. 

Edited October 24, 2024 by darkassassin07

[Q-Droid 989]

22 hours ago, Sammy said:

The problem is my hardware isn't Windows 11 compliant but functions perfectly fine.

AM4 socket? Can you drop in a compliant CPU?

Edit: your CPU is compliant but would need to enable fTPM and secure boot in EFI/BIOS for Win11. 

 

Edited October 24, 2024 by Q-Droid