Can I get banned if ...

[danielromerohn 0]

1 Can I get banned if I have more than 4 servers with premier licensed 75 devices each?

2 Can I get banned if I create more than 300 emby connect accounts?

Sincerely 

[Gilgamesh_48 1240]

I hope so. I do not think Emby should allow such flagrant violation of their rules and I do not think Emby should allow anyone to make money from using Emby and I cannot believe such an excessive use is for any other purpose other than selling access. 

[yocker 1249]

5 minutes ago, Gilgamesh_48 said:

I hope so. I do not think Emby should allow such flagrant violation of their rules and I do not think Emby should allow anyone to make money from using Emby and I cannot believe such an excessive use is for any other purpose other than selling access. 

While i agree it should only be if proven to earn money on it.
I could picture running Emby in maybe a hospital or something where having that many users could be possible without any money being involved.
What they would host on the server and how they pay for that is another thing though.

That said.. A private user using that many devices.. Yeeeah about that.

[Carlo 4561]

That would violate the terms of service for its use as it's very clearly states it's for personal use.

Subset of https://emby.media/terms.html

b. For any Software made available to you to download through the website, or accessible due to a subscription service or purchased through a third party platform (e.g. Apple App Store, Google Play Store, or via a Roku Channel), Emby grants you a personal, non-commercial, worldwide, royalty-free, revocable, non-transferable, non-sublicensable, and non-exclusive license to use the software provided to you by Emby ("Software"). This license is for the sole purpose of enabling you to use and enjoy the benefit of the Software in the manner permitted by these Terms.

(c) You represent and warrant that you will utilize the Access Services solely for non-commercial, private and personal use and that EMBY has no knowledge of, nor does EMBY investigate, monitor, or otherwise have knowledge of the User Content available through the Access Services.  Additionally, EMBY does not have access to, nor host, any of the User Content available through the Access Services.

[Gilgamesh_48 1240]

31 minutes ago, yocker said:

While i agree it should only be if proven to earn money on it.
I could picture running Emby in maybe a hospital or something where having that many users could be possible without any money being involved.
What they would host on the server and how they pay for that is another thing though.

That said.. A private user using that many devices.. Yeeeah about that.

If you use Emby in a hospital then you are providing the content for guests(and Hospitals are not free) and if you use it in a hotel/motel then you are using it to attract guests or to enhance their experience if you use it like a group server like cable TV then you are using it for commercial purposes. In most cases large installations of any sort are commercial even if the place is non-profit. 
In fact I cannot come up with even one non-commercial use that requires 300 licenses. In further fact even 75 stretches believability if claiming non-commercial use.

But I am not in charge of Emby (Thank God) and they may see some heavy use situations as OK. A few years ago I helped my cousin set up Emby for her extended family in Alaska and even for that we only needed 30-35 licenses to cover her entire ranch in Alaska. Most of the time they never exceed 20 or so licenses and they have a LOT of time to fill in the winter.
BTW: Cooling of their servers is not a problem in the winter or summer really. in fact they had to heavily insulate their server shack to keep it warm enough in the coldest periods. 

Since they started they have had a few problems and the had to add two independent servers as their ranch is VERY spread out and some cable runs were very very long.. Last report I saw was that they are still under 30 licenses. 
I just do not see any reasonable need for 300 licenses.

[yocker 1249]

23 minutes ago, Gilgamesh_48 said:

If you use Emby in a hospital then you are providing the content for guests(and Hospitals are not free) and if you use it in a hotel/motel then you are using it to attract guests or to enhance their experience if you use it like a group server like cable TV then you are using it for commercial purposes. In most cases large installations of any sort are commercial even if the place is non-profit. 
In fact I cannot come up with even one non-commercial use that requires 300 licenses. In further fact even 75 stretches believability if claiming non-commercial use.

But I am not in charge of Emby (Thank God) and they may see some heavy use situations as OK. A few years ago I helped my cousin set up Emby for her extended family in Alaska and even for that we only needed 30-35 licenses to cover her entire ranch in Alaska. Most of the time they never exceed 20 or so licenses and they have a LOT of time to fill in the winter.
BTW: Cooling of their servers is not a problem in the winter or summer really. in fact they had to heavily insulate their server shack to keep it warm enough in the coldest periods. 

Since they started they have had a few problems and the had to add two independent servers as their ranch is VERY spread out and some cable runs were very very long.. Last report I saw was that they are still under 30 licenses. 
I just do not see any reasonable need for 300 licenses.

Hospitals was just the first thing that came to my mind as they are free here in Denmark, for danish people at least.
For the workers on some remote place or something maybe?

I do however agree with you, 300 is suspicious as hell! I just want it so people are not wrongfully banned from a product they payed for.
I tried that before and it absolutely sucks!

Isn't it kinda of redundant anyway as you can just buy a license for the client or is it still dependent on the server? It has always confused me.

[Gilgamesh_48 1240]

12 minutes ago, yocker said:

Isn't it kinda of redundant anyway as you can just buy a license for the client or is it still dependent on the server? It has always confused me.

The "device license" is for how many devices can connect to a server while the "client" license is just for the use of the Emby app on the client. That is if I have 5 devices connected to my server and they are all active then I have used 5 device connections regardless of weather on not the apps involved have been paid for. With very few exceptions any device actually streaming is counted in the total device count. 

Ex. I have mainly Rokus and Rokus do not require a client license but I connect 4 of them to my server I have used 4 device slots. Also the device count does not go down as soon as a device disconnects. It takes some time for the device to no longer be counted as a device in Emby. I have seen reports of it taking several days for a device to roll off even if it is not used.

To put it another way:
Client licenses allow a client to connect to an Emby server but have nothing to do with device connections.
Device licenses are what counts and you can only have whatever number of devices your server is allowed. 
You can have a near unlimited number of clients but you can only connect whatever your device license allows to a server at a time.

I agree that Emby has made this more complex than it needs to be but what they have seems to work and I am a firm believer in: "If it ain't broke don't fix it" and the device license system ain't broke except for a very few that stretch the limits. 

[yocker 1249]

10 minutes ago, Gilgamesh_48 said:

The "device license" is for how many devices can connect to a server while the "client" license is just for the use of the Emby app on the client. That is if I have 5 devices connected to my server and they are all active then I have used 5 device connections regardless of weather on not the apps involved have been paid for. With very few exceptions any device actually streaming is counted in the total device count. 

Ex. I have mainly Rokus and Rokus do not require a client license but I connect 4 of them to my server I have used 4 device slots. Also the device count does not go down as soon as a device disconnects. It takes some time for the device to no longer be counted as a device in Emby. I have seen reports of it taking several days for a device to roll off even if it is not used.

To put it another way:
Client licenses allow a client to connect to an Emby server but have nothing to do with device connections.
Device licenses are what counts and you can only have whatever number of devices your server is allowed. 
You can have a near unlimited number of clients but you can only connect whatever your device license allows to a server at a time.

I agree that Emby has made this more complex than it needs to be but what they have seems to work and I am a firm believer in: "If it ain't broke don't fix it" and the device license system ain't broke except for a very few that stretch the limits. 

If it's confusing it's broke in my book.
I'm not complaining though. It might be one of the smallest problem in the world so no reason to change it.

Many thanks for the explanation!

[GrimReaper 4740]

Only devices that utilize Premiere features count against Premiere devices limit (meaning that not every device connected to your server counts - you can theoretically have 100 devices connected and not utilize a single slot, depending on features used). 

Certain apps allow for App Unlock for Full playback in which case they don't count against device limit for that feature alone (but they do for any other Premiere feature). 

You can check what is considered Premiere feature in the linked matrix. 

Emby Premiere Feature Matrix

Devices are tracked for about a week after which they'll automatically drop off the list. 

Is there a limit to Emby Premiere?