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DarkStar1977
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Hi Emby Team.

It's amazing that finally we have the possibility to upload photos from the iOS devices to the Emby Server, but, would be fantastic if the metadata of the original photo is maintained, and specifically the date taken that if it's not modified, has to be the date of last modification.

Now all pictures are uploaded with the timestamp of the upload moment, something that's a mess:

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As you can see, those are the photos uploaded to the emby server folder assigned and all dates are the upload date (creation, modification, last opened).

Can u please arrange this ?

BTW, it would be even better if in addition to respect Date Metadata (among all other metadata), the pictures are stored in folders per date (EJ. 2024-09-20).

Thanks in advance.

DarkStar1977
Posted (edited)

In fact, in addition, there's an option to configure a Folder per device but the name is too generic.

In my case, as I use an iPhone, the folder created was named "iphone", but what happens if there's more than one user with camera upload enabled that has an iphone ?

Would be good to create the Folder based per device + user EJ: iphone DarkStar1977 as a folder name or let the user to name it.

 

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It's amazing that finally we have the possibility to upload photos from the iOS devices to the Emby Server,

Hi, what do you mean by finally? It has been there for years.

DarkStar1977
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2 hours ago, Luke said:

Hi, what do you mean by finally? It has been there for years.

Even the current documentation does not say that iOS is supported: https://emby.media/support/articles/Camera-Upload.html
If I look at this:

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My understanding is that Camera upload is supported only in Android and Ember for Emby, not iOS as is not listed as an app that support the feature according to the above.

But anyway @Lukeas always you respond to something apparently I did wrong (saying finally it's supported... better documentation will make this not to happen .,..) and you're ignoring the important issue:

Camera upload does not respect Photos' metadata, that makes Camera Upload unusable for backup purposes as the dates of the pictures are not preserved.

And that folder creation is confusing ....

 

 

Posted

That 1 reason to use another solution.

Home | Immich

Emby wants to do to much, and can't spend the time to perfect.

Some features are still half-baked.

DarkStar1977
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14 minutes ago, Neminem said:

That 1 reason to use another solution.

Home | Immich

Emby wants to do to much, and can't spend the time to perfect.

Some features are still half-baked.

Dude I have no time to deploy a Docker into my NAS to support a 3rd party application.

Thanks for playing ...

Posted

Happy trails m8....

Fun game ....

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23 hours ago, DarkStar1977 said:

Even the current documentation does not say that iOS is supported: https://emby.media/support/articles/Camera-Upload.html
If I look at this:

image.thumb.png.845248dcdb7dd17a8cec59017f46cea2.png

My understanding is that Camera upload is supported only in Android and Ember for Emby, not iOS as is not listed as an app that support the feature according to the above.

But anyway @Lukeas always you respond to something apparently I did wrong (saying finally it's supported... better documentation will make this not to happen .,..) and you're ignoring the important issue:

Camera upload does not respect Photos' metadata, that makes Camera Upload unusable for backup purposes as the dates of the pictures are not preserved.

And that folder creation is confusing ....

 

 

@sa2000can update that and remove Ember. Thanks.

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DarkStar1977
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1 hour ago, Luke said:

@DarkStar1977can you please provide one of these images for testing? Thanks.

 

You want the original image or the uploaded one, or maybe both ?

Thanks

Posted
24 minutes ago, DarkStar1977 said:

You want the original image or the uploaded one, or maybe both ?

Thanks

The uploaded one. Thanks.

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On 20/09/2024 at 20:16, DarkStar1977 said:

In my case, as I use an iPhone, the folder created was named "iphone", but what happens if there's more than one user with camera upload enabled that has an iphone

If you change the device name on the Emby Server dashboard Devices view, then the camera uploads will go into a folder with that name

14 hours ago, Luke said:

an also add Emby for iOS

I am removing mention of Ember for Emby and adding Emby for iOS

 

DarkStar1977
Posted
Just now, sa2000 said:

If you change the device name on the Emby Server dashboard Devices view, then the camera uploads will go into a folder with that name

 

 

I cannot control how all my users name their devices.

It's not feasible that I have to be aware when I enable camera upload to a user, to wait until a device is connected to rename it ...

Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, DarkStar1977 said:

It's not feasible that I have to be aware when I enable camera upload to a user, to wait until a device is connected to rename it

I understand. Will leave this to @Luke to consider. 

 

5 minutes ago, DarkStar1977 said:

I cannot control how all my users name their device

I do not believe it is a normal use case for all your users to be permitted to auto upload all their photos from their phones to an Emby Server. It would be undertandable for immediate family.

With regards to the device name showing as "iPhone" by default, I believe that was a change by Apple relating to Privacy

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DarkStar1977
Posted
Just now, sa2000 said:

I understand. Will leave this to @Luke to consider. 

 

I do not believe it is a normal use case for all your users to be permitted to auto upload all their photos from their phones to an Emby Server. It would be undertandable for immediate family.

With regards to the device name showing as "iPhone" by default, I believe that was a change by Apple relating to Privacy

I only have 5 users, all of them friends and family, the number of devices uses each one is another story ...

I'm just saying that adding username to the folder will solve the issue without any need to manage the device name by me or to warn users to rename their devices.

IPhone-DarkStar1977 as a folder for my IPhone, assuming DarkStar1977 is my username in emby will sort the issue.

Posted (edited)
9 minutes ago, DarkStar1977 said:

I'm just saying that adding username to the folder will solve the issue without any need to manage the device name by me or to warn users to rename their devices.

Not sure if that would be sufficient.  If a user has multiple iPhones, I would like to see each phone camera uploads to be in separate folder. What I would like is how it was before Apple changed it to just iPhone. So user name coupled with the device model / name would be preferable to me.

Some info about the iOS 16 change here https://developer.apple.com/documentation/bundleresources/entitlements/com_apple_developer_device-information_user-assigned-device-name

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DarkStar1977
Posted
9 hours ago, sa2000 said:

Not sure if that would be sufficient.  If a user has multiple iPhones, I would like to see each phone camera uploads to be in separate folder. What I would like is how it was before Apple changed it to just iPhone. So user name coupled with the device model / name would be preferable to me.

Some info about the iOS 16 change here https://developer.apple.com/documentation/bundleresources/entitlements/com_apple_developer_device-information_user-assigned-device-name

Then what about just the username as a folder instead of the device ?

I see has more sense even a user uses multiple devices to have all their pictures in a user folder than a device folder ...

Posted
12 hours ago, DarkStar1977 said:

I see has more sense even a user uses multiple devices to have all their pictures in a user folder than a device folder ...

May be worth considering a user preference setting. I would not like different ranges of image filenames getting put together as there will be no doubt some overlaps in filenames for Apple devices. For android, filenames are date and time based so not an issue there.

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