5 Cons of emby

[Carl0s 0]

Live tv don't load fast

Live tv don't record correctly

No option to have a banner at the top showing off new content

Live tv editor has no option to disable all channels from m3u and then click only what you want

Emby can't connect to it from tivimate

No big banners only the same old thing for years

Tags for live tv is annoying but I can live with it (edit my own list)

No skins for years, looks old and dated

No option for users to add cool looking skins

No fresh look in years (bored)

[yocker 1247]

That's 8 cons since the appearance once are the same really.

I'm sure the Emby team will take any feature requests to heart if you make them.

[Gilgamesh_48 1240]

26 minutes ago, Carl0s said:

Live tv don't load fast

Live tv don't record correctly

No option to have a banner at the top showing off new content

Live tv editor has no option to disable all channels from m3u and then click only what you want

Emby can't connect to it from tivimate

No big banners only the same old thing for years

Tags for live tv is annoying but I can live with it (edit my own list)

No skins for years, looks old and dated

No option for users to add cool looking skins

No fresh look in years (bored)

So you spend your time watching the interface. The way Emby "looks" is, for me, totally meaningless as long as it presents my media so I can easily find and play it. 

If you want a flashy interface then switch to Plex but, for functionality, there currently seems to be nothing better than Emby.

BTW: When i read the title "5 Cons of Emby" I was about to say that I did not know Emby had that many felons in their staff but it is clear from the content that this post was all about complaining.

[Carl0s 0]

2 hours ago, Gilgamesh_48 said:

So you spend your time watching the interface. The way Emby "looks" is, for me, totally meaningless as long as it presents my media so I can easily find and play it. 

If you want a flashy interface then switch to Plex but, for functionality, there currently seems to be nothing better than Emby.

BTW: When i read the title "5 Cons of Emby" I was about to say that I did not know Emby had that many felons in their staff but it is clear from the content that this post was all about complaining.

Yes I spend time watching the interface and yes I am complaining big time.

 

Gilgamesh_48 I pay for this to look good, I expect a good looking experience you heard me? I can have movies and tv shows on a hard drive then make a text file to make an m3u and share it with other clients like tivimate and all is good. But I paid for a service that I expect to be updated with time not go back in the past and keep it old school. I have a lifetime key yet I never used emby for 2 years so what does that tell you.

 

The emby team can"t update emby because they don't know how, there skills stop at what emby is now. They have no idea how to make emby look better add banners add skins add anything period. They CAN'T because they have no idea how. So we as paying customers are stuck with an old looking broken experience.

[Happy2Play 9780]

I guess there some of use that can care less about looks as long as it just works.  As most flashy things are useless.  Eye candy is not always a good thing and most of the time is just in the way.

But with all the new arrivals posting I usually avoid as it seen to be just creating a lot of noise around here now.  Something you want is not a con as it is something I do not.

[Carl0s 0]

Luke does not have the skills to bring emby out of the stone age, he can't update the look of emby he can't add skin support, he can't fix the live tv issues, he can't actually do anything else period. Emby the way it is will stay exactly the same it will never get updated because no one knows how to code period. Luke could'nt add banner support for emby if his life depended on it he just don't know how to. DONE!

[Gilgamesh_48 1240]

Just now, Carl0s said:

The emby team can"t update emby because they don't know how, there skills stop at what emby is now. They have no idea how to make emby look better add banners add skins add anything period. They CAN'T because they have no idea how. So we as paying customers are stuck with an old looking broken experience.

And there are plenty of people that find Emby "pretty" however, for me, that is unimportant. The Emby "team" is pretty small and what they can do is try and keep up with the functionality and doing something that most systems find impossible. That is keeping the system mostly functional. 

If you want flash then move to Plex, they have the flash but their functionality is lacking. I guess you would find YouTube's offering, that is very hard to use, good because it is flashy.

If you have specific complaints or need help or want some bug fixed then ask with details. They might say no but by being rude and giving no specific example Emby will do nothing. I know I would not do anything for you at this point. It is hard, sometimes, to get Emby to answer but being impolite and just complaining is not the way to get a response. I know, I tried that way and got nothing. I now try to be polite when asking for something and I, sometimes, get a desired response. But sometimes I don't. 

[yocker 1247]

3 minutes ago, Carl0s said:

 Luke could'nt add banner support for emby if his life depended on it he just don't know how to. DONE!

I gave you an answer to that in another post.

In Emby settings under Home Screen in "Home Screen section 1" you choose "Latest Media"
That way you will have last new added media to the server at the top of the screen.

 

[yocker 1247]

3 minutes ago, Gilgamesh_48 said:

If you want flash then move to Plex, they have the flash but their functionality is lacking. I guess you would find YouTube's offering, that is very hard to use, good because it is flashy.

Tbh. Plex does have some awesome 3. party functions/addons, of cause that's more a side effect of a bigger user base. The program it self is IMO a crime against humanity.
Anyway.. I'll shut up now as to not keep this thread alive any more than it has to.

[denz 501]

I am overall pretty happy with the look you can still customise it to some extent. Everything else works but do wish we can start testing faster channel change that has been in development for a while

[Carl0s 0]

Years ago I paid for a lifetime emby key thinking the server will update with time, look better, work better, feel better. I was scammed, the hype quickly died and reading the posts on the help forum went not un answered but went non anything period. Emby is now stuck in idle for years even lol no coolness no anything just an out dated server that we got stuck with because no one on the emby team has skills to do anything ,, can't fix a thing or make emby look better. Emby will stay outdated and ugly for ever.

[user24 313]

42 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

Something you want is not a con as it is something I do not.

Yes, this is exactly right. One person’s pros and cons can easily be another person’s cons and pros. Multiply that by everyone using Emby and that’s a lot of different opinions! Some people may value form (look) over function and others may value function over form. There is a very wide spectrum in between. To get the balance right isn’t always easy. Emby do a good job overall with this.

I think Emby is a great media platform and very flexible, having many different configuration options, plugins, and further customisation through creative editing of metadata, tags and CSS. The recent “Group By” for Collections is a good example of Emby giving their customers a choice of function rather than forcing one view over another. This seemed to be as a result of forum feedback – so Emby does listen and respond!

I can’t wait to see what come next with Smart Playlists and Smart Views for even more individual configuration and flexibility. Keep up the great work Emby team!

[guunter 49]

Emby is way better looking than Plex and cleaner too. I don’t even get the point of this post. This is like a Reddit complaining post

[Abobader 3464]

One of these threads that post it in the wrong place of the forum as start, no users issue, no real problem, no, no, and no .. etc. Only to posting false matters not related to the operational of the software.

Moving this.

 

[arrbee99 1815]

I think Emby is very good, but the OP has perfectly valid points. Lots of stuff does take forever. We all have our pet examples. I'm sure the new Windows app is very good, but visually its same old same old. Nothing wrong with a good moan, but if you want any chance of fixes, being specific helps.

[ebr 16169]

11 hours ago, arrbee99 said:

I'm sure the new Windows app is very good, but visually its same old same old

Try the new Windows theme...

[RanmaCanada 494]

Emby should just drop live tv support, as the majority of users who use it are using pirated iptv subs to rebroadcast to their users. It's 1) a great way to get banned from your provider and blacklisted, and 2) not your media, which is what Emby was originally designed for. If cable card was still around it would be valid, but no legitmate providers give you a playlist to watch their channels. One could argue that OTA channels are still viable, but we know that anyone who is using Emby is not interested in OTA content.

Everything OP is complaining about is content that would be used to sell your server to people, which is again, something that Emby is NOT designed for.

[lightsout 156]

8 hours ago, RanmaCanada said:

Emby should just drop live tv support, as the majority of users who use it are using pirated iptv subs to rebroadcast to their users. It's 1) a great way to get banned from your provider and blacklisted, and 2) not your media, which is what Emby was originally designed for. If cable card was still around it would be valid, but no legitmate providers give you a playlist to watch their channels. One could argue that OTA channels are still viable, but we know that anyone who is using Emby is not interested in OTA content.

Everything OP is complaining about is content that would be used to sell your server to people, which is again, something that Emby is NOT designed for.

This is ridiculous and about as short sited at the OP. I have been using live TV on Emby since it came out. OTA and Cable card. Yes we took a hit with many providers moving away from cablecards. But I still use OTA often.

Would be silly to take away a working feature. I used it long before the .m3u option. But I am not aware of any legitimate uses for the m3u as you said. 

[daldana 122]

Well, it's great that someone like RanmaCanada can speak for everyone using Emby! (If you can't tell, that is a completely sarcastic remark)

I, like lightsout, use Emby everyday with OTA for both live viewing and recording so for RanmaCanada to say that "anyone who is using Emby is not interested in OTA content" is extremely ignorant. Where did you get your data from RanmaCanada? You used to be quite helpful, but lately your responses have become more and more rude, maybe it's time for you to take the proverbial "chill pill".

[MistD 32]

As a honest side joke i think Emby's Tag Line / Motto should be : "Yes, it's possible for future updates"  (just a joke, no harm intended)

Joking aside, what i love about Emby is the "polish" , it feels more premium than Jellyfin and feels more stable. Plex is out of discussion anyway.

What i hate about it is the feeling that Emby is trying to do a lot of stuff half-baked and simply don't care about user experience on everything else beside Movies / TV Shows.

You can't mix Movies, Music, TV Shows, AudioBooks, Books, Photos ... etc into a big bowl and just put some blindfolds and pretend you deliver, this things simply don't go together.
If they might work "server-side", when you reach the actual content consumption on client-side : movies, books, music ... don't mix, and you know it.

What you are doing instead is increasing frustration in your user base that uses your product for the advertised functionality (other than Movies) soon to find out that it's half-baked, the support for a particular "library / content  type" is bad, the official app is a "catch all" bowl of soup with poor support for specific functionality of that specific "library type" and so on.

I would argue that instead of providing subpar experiences for those "variety" of library types ... isn't it just better to focus on 1, 2 or 3 things but do it AMAZING ? 
Keep the video stuff (Movies / TV Shows / Live TV) and Music ... drop everything else. Honestly ! 

Don't focus your energy and time on features that you launch half-baked pretending they are good enough. They aren't !

Just leave Audiobooks to Audiobookshelf, leave Photos to Immich, books to Calibre .... and so on. I would take instead an amazing dedicated Music app any time of the day.

Edited September 17, 2024 by MistD

[user24 313]

Perhaps Emby is trying for...

"jack of all trades, master of the future"

... we all wait (patiently) with great anticipation.

[MistD 32]

On 9/18/2024 at 3:08 AM, user24 said:

"jack of all trades, master of the future"

Honestly is more like "Jack of all Trades, Master of One: ... Movies" 
Although I would love, at some point, this to change.

Edited September 21, 2024 by MistD

[Q-Droid 989]

On 9/17/2024 at 9:32 AM, lightsout said:

Would be silly to take away a working feature. I used it long before the .m3u option. But I am not aware of any legitimate uses for the m3u as you said. 

OTA is a legitimate use of m3u.

[lightsout 156]

7 hours ago, Q-Droid said:

OTA is a legitimate use of m3u.

Is that right? As I said I wasn't aware of any. Good to know.

[Gilgamesh_48 1240]

1 hour ago, lightsout said:

Is that right? As I said I wasn't aware of any. Good to know.

In fact I use m3us for the primary purpose of not having to use YouTube's clunky interface. I have CH-DVR and I use it to get the YouTube content but I do not like its interface much. It is better than YouTube's but it is still hard for me to use. I found that CH-DVR has a way to output an m3u and guide data as well so I use that to create a tuner in Emby and then can use Emby's interface, which is far from perfect but MUCH better than the alternatives. 

For it to work properly I do have to have CH-DVR running as well as Emby (They are all on different computers) but it works and works well, so far. I know there might be issues in the future but that is in the future and I think this just might be a stable system for me. It is mostly at least as "stable" as I am.  

M3us have a number of creative useful uses, including this one that do not violate laws, or at least do not violate laws that are reasonable. I know of a company that locally uses m3us for internal communication (the actual address of what is streamed changes frequently but that works with m3us). The exact details I cannot share but it works a lot like a broadcast TV station but without the need of a transmitter.

There are many other uses for m3us that do not involve pirating or other forms of law breaking.