[TMDB] Use Alternative title when title is empty

[vankyjgykhbizaj 0]

eg: https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/95396-severance

the zh-CN title is empty

Edited August 8, 2024 by vankyjgykhbizaj

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[Happy2Play 9780]

9 minutes ago, vankyjgykhbizaj said:

eg: https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/95396-severance

the zh-CN title is empty

Yes it is but what should Emby do about it?  But you could create a TMDB account and fill it in.

[Happy2Play 9780]

But TMDB has some strict rules for Mainland China.

 

The Translated Name in Chinese(zh-CN) is empty - Discuss Severance — The Movie Database (TMDB) (themoviedb.org)

[Happy2Play 9780]

Doesn't Emby show an English title in this case?

Or are you asking to show

But will have to look at the api call to actually see what is returned.

Edited August 8, 2024 by Happy2Play

[vankyjgykhbizaj 0]

11 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

Yes it is but what should Emby do about it?  But you could create a TMDB account and fill it in.

the title can't be edited.

alternative titles: https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/95396-severance/titles

[Happy2Play 9780]

1 minute ago, vankyjgykhbizaj said:

the title can't be edited.

I see that as the image shows unlocked but entering it then shows locked. Per their discussion of no release in mainland China it can not have a translated name.

But testing now to see what the api returns.

[vankyjgykhbizaj 0]

https://developer.themoviedb.org/reference/tv-series-alternative-titles

[Happy2Play 9780]

Was just looking at that as dev would have to do an additional query to get the info as it is not part of any existing query.

[Happy2Play 9780]

Actually, looks like it is already done.  As I got alternate title changing language on the show.

api.themoviedb.org/3/tv/95396?api_key=apikey&append_to_response=alternative_titles,reviews,credits,images,keywords,external_ids,videos,content_ratings,episode_groups&language=zh-CN&include_image_language=zh-CN,null

 "alternative_titles": {
        "results": [
            {
                "iso_3166_1": "CN",
                "title": "人生切割术",
                "type": ""
            },
            {
                "iso_3166_1": "IL",
                "title": "ניתוק",
                "type": ""
            },
            {
                "iso_3166_1": "IR",
                "title": "جدایی",
                "type": ""
            },
            {
                "iso_3166_1": "IR",
                "title": "جداسازی",
                "type": ""
            },
            {
                "iso_3166_1": "KR",
                "title": "세브란스: 단절",
                "type": ""
            },
            {
                "iso_3166_1": "MO",
                "title": "生活割離術",
                "type": ""
            },
            {
                "iso_3166_1": "UA",
                "title": "Поділ",
                "type": ""
            },
            {
                "iso_3166_1": "UA",
                "title": "Розділення",
                "type": ""
            }
        ]
    },

[Happy2Play 9780]

@Lukeshould these alternate_titles be cached also?

Edited August 8, 2024 by Happy2Play

[Luke 42077]

14 hours ago, Happy2Play said:

@Lukeshould these alternate_titles be cached also?

What do you mean by caching?

[Happy2Play 9780]

52 minutes ago, Luke said:

What do you mean by caching?

The cached json metadata as alternate titles are no saved anywhere.

C:\Users\Media\AppData\Roaming\Emby-Server\programdata\cache\tmdb-tv\95396

[Luke 42077]

But you’re saying the server is using the values?

[vankyjgykhbizaj 0]

`name == original_name` instead of `name == ""` ?

[Luke 42077]

5 hours ago, vankyjgykhbizaj said:

`name == original_name` instead of `name == ""` ?

Hi, what do you mean by this?

[Happy2Play 9780]

On 8/8/2024 at 3:47 PM, Luke said:

But you’re saying the server is using the values?

The server uses the alternate name yes even thought cache does not know it.

But will say I get different result if I do not write NFO files as it maintains the English name in my tests.  Writing nfo file uses alternate name.  So this may need looking at from a DB only standpoint.

 

This test was done in 4.8.8.0

 

Not sure by I get different result here but must be something in the cache as it is hit and miss testing.

Edited August 12, 2024 by Happy2Play

[Happy2Play 9780]

But testing this clearing cache on each attempt TMDB over TVDB I get English title.  TVDB over TMDB I get alternate title testing DB only data.

 

Testing with TMDB only does not use alternate title either.

 

So there is an unexplainable condition here.

Edited August 12, 2024 by Happy2Play

[Luke 42077]

On 8/12/2024 at 3:56 PM, Happy2Play said:

The server uses the alternate name yes even thought cache does not know it.

But will say I get different result if I do not write NFO files as it maintains the English name in my tests.  Writing nfo file uses alternate name.  So this may need looking at from a DB only standpoint.

 

This test was done in 4.8.8.0

 

Not sure by I get different result here but must be something in the cache as it is hit and miss testing.

But it shows original_name: Severance, so are you sure the cache doesn't know it?

[Luke 42077]

And yes, internally the Tmdb plugin does have a fallback. If the record contains no name, it will use original_title.

[Luke 42077]

On 8/12/2024 at 4:04 PM, Happy2Play said:

So there is an unexplainable condition here.

Between tmdb and tvdb, which is unexplainable?

[Happy2Play 9780]

24 minutes ago, Luke said:

Between tmdb and tvdb, which is unexplainable?

If TVDB then TMDB alternate title is used.

If TMDB then TVDB alternate title is not used.

If TMDB only alternate title is not used.

[Luke 42077]

On 8/15/2024 at 10:20 PM, Happy2Play said:

If TVDB then TMDB alternate title is used.

If TMDB then TVDB alternate title is not used.

If TMDB only alternate title is not used.

Does this build of the moviedb plugin resolve it for you?

MovieDb.zip

[Happy2Play 9780]

11 minutes ago, Luke said:

On 8/15/2024 at 7:20 PM, Happy2Play said:

If TVDB then TMDB alternate title is used.

If TMDB then TVDB alternate title is not used.

If TMDB only alternate title is not used.

Does this build of the moviedb plugin resolve it for you?

I see no change retesting those provider scenerios.

Only retested in beta if that makes a difference.

Edited August 24, 2024 by Happy2Play

[Luke 42077]

Did you try deleting the cached data?