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Bigmack3000
Posted

Logs attached.

I've posted in the past about this, but the new way of displaying tv extras is causing a lot of problems.  One it doesn't display them correctly,  having random featurettes overrule actual specials as the preferred option:

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That extra isn't even displayed under the correct episode.  

But, now I think it's causing playback issues.  Episodes without any extras attached were playing fine.  Then I got to a special that had an extra attach itself to it, and I kept getting this message:

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I randomly played around, by checking off that I had already watched the special, to see if it would move on to the next episode. Then manually went back to the previous episode, and was finally able to play it. (The logs should show that).  But then the following episode also has an extra attached to it, and is now giving the same message.

embyserver (2).txt

Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, Bigmack3000 said:

I've posted in the past about this, but the new way of displaying tv extras is causing a lot of problems.

I see from the log that you have these featurettes media files

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The TV Naming article indicates that it should be possible to have these extras folders at the season level. Could you try putting these under the relevant Doctor Who (2005) season folders ?

For the specials these were referenced in the log

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4 hours ago, Bigmack3000 said:

  Episodes without any extras attached were playing fine.  Then I got to a special that had an extra attach itself to it, and I kept getting this message:

Can you tell me exactly which episode was being played and at what time that error was returned

 

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Bigmack3000
Posted

It was S00E83.  Around 1am?

Bigmack3000
Posted
3 hours ago, sa2000 said:

I see from the log that you have these featurettes media files

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The TV Naming article indicates that it should be possible to have these extras folders at the season level. Could you try putting these under the relevant Doctor Who (2005) season folders ?

 

As for this, I'm really not a fan of how Emby has gone about implementing tv extras in general.  throwing them into the same pull-down tab as the episode is ugly and non-intuitive.  It either hides extras away, or makes them an obstacle to get around.  If emby wants to go down that road, then they should have a 2nd pull down on the episode's page where the extras are displayed.  But I'd rather not split all my extras apart right now, as I am severly hoping Emby adjusts this, or makes putting them season folders optional.  There are extras that don't belong to a single season in particular.  Where do they go?

Neminem
Posted

You do know you can split them apart, right ?

You can even decide where it is shown with in you season.

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Bigmack3000
Posted

I want the option for non-special extras to not show up in a season.  Not crowd up the pull-down with the actual episode in it.  

Happy2Play
Posted
Just now, Bigmack3000 said:

I want the option for non-special extras to not show up in a season.  Not crowd up the pull-down with the actual episode in it.  

Will have to look thru your log but have never had specials/featurettes/extras multi-versioned.

Bigmack3000
Posted
1 minute ago, Happy2Play said:

Will have to look thru your log but have never had specials/featurettes/extras multi-versioned.

It does it when the filename can match up with an episode title.  Emby tries to throw it in with that episode.

Happy2Play
Posted (edited)
14 minutes ago, Bigmack3000 said:

It does it when the filename can match up with an episode title.  Emby tries to throw it in with that episode.

But still don't follow as I can not get your first screenshot to happen.

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But S00E93 is identified for me where yours is not per the way it is displayed but could be something via mutli-versioning.

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Happy2Play
Posted

But being behind the scenes for a specific episode I would do the extra work and put it there.

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But still do not know how you are getting mutli-versioning.

Posted
10 hours ago, Bigmack3000 said:

Logs attached.

I've posted in the past about this, but the new way of displaying tv extras is causing a lot of problems.  One it doesn't display them correctly,  having random featurettes overrule actual specials as the preferred option:

ScreenShot2024-07-25at12_37_35AM.png.5d39530261ea77f023f339e703d7f402.png

 

That extra isn't even displayed under the correct episode.  

But, now I think it's causing playback issues.  Episodes without any extras attached were playing fine.  Then I got to a special that had an extra attach itself to it, and I kept getting this message:

ScreenShot2024-07-25at3_08_17AM.thumb.png.62e9ffface5b0c1170f61945b3871ca0.png

I randomly played around, by checking off that I had already watched the special, to see if it would move on to the next episode. Then manually went back to the previous episode, and was finally able to play it. (The logs should show that).  But then the following episode also has an extra attached to it, and is now giving the same message.

embyserver (2).txt 6.11 MB · 2 downloads

Is s0093 called the last day? I wonder if it got matched based on episode title.

Bigmack3000
Posted
31 minutes ago, Luke said:

Is s0093 called the last day? I wonder if it got matched based on episode title.

Yea, for me any extras file that matches an episode title becomes another version of that episode.  I'd love for that to stop.  

Bigmack3000
Posted
53 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

But being behind the scenes for a specific episode I would do the extra work and put it there.

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But still do not know how you are getting mutli-versioning.

It's an extra for a special though.  So i would have to throw all these files into the specials folder?  That's just so messy.

Happy2Play
Posted
2 minutes ago, Bigmack3000 said:

It's an extra for a special though.  So i would have to throw all these files into the specials folder?  That's just so messy.

Depends on the outcome you want.

As I showed two different ways.  So the question becomes how do we reproduce your issue of multi-versioning?

Have not been able to group/version The Last Day and The Last Days of the Pond.

Bigmack3000
Posted

Man, that's weird.  I don't know what else i can post besides other screenshots of it happening?  I've posted about it in the past.  It happens all over my tv shows.

Bigmack3000
Posted (edited)

But I'm also wondering if part of the "no playback option" here is because emby recently added auto skipping for non essential specials.  (Another thing I'd prefer to optional instead of forced).  And maybe that combined with the multi versioning is causing the issue?

Because this show in particular has a lot of "non essential" specials.

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Happy2Play
Posted
51 minutes ago, Luke said:

Is s0093 called the last day? I wonder if it got matched based on episode title.

Yes I just reproduce with complete naming.  Without title on filename is not a issue.

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Little confused on the matching though as it did not match to same name.

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Bigmack3000
Posted

Yea, and the problem is it's an extra for that exact episode. So it can't really be named anything else

Happy2Play
Posted

But in the end it looks like an identification issue once it gets misidentified with metadata from provider that technically does not exist and linking happens per metadata not file naming.

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Happy2Play
Posted
2 minutes ago, Bigmack3000 said:

Yea, and the problem is it's an extra for that exact episode. So it can't really be named anything else

But techically these are for a specific episode and should be attached to them not dumped in Specials folder.  So in reality they needed to be within episode folder or named same as their episode - featurette anything.

Happy2Play
Posted (edited)

Not sure how it worked the very first test though.

 

Edited by Happy2Play
Bigmack3000
Posted
23 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

But techically these are for a specific episode and should be attached to them not dumped in Specials folder.  So in reality they needed to be within episode folder or named same as their episode - featurette anything.

So that would be a folder within in the specials folder?  

I think I'd rather just keep them in a folder labeled featurettes.

Bigmack3000
Posted
29 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

But in the end it looks like an identification issue once it gets misidentified with metadata from provider that technically does not exist and linking happens per metadata not file naming.

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Is it possible to fix this?

Happy2Play
Posted
Just now, Bigmack3000 said:

So that would be a folder within in the specials folder?  

I think I'd rather just keep them in a folder labeled featurettes.

Two way to do this and both methods add the the extra to the episode.

alone side media

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or added structure per item ie episode folder

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4 minutes ago, Bigmack3000 said:

Is it possible to fix this?

Once there is metadata I don't thinks and all metadata has to be deleted and probably have to remove the entire series from library and scan to clear the database.

Bigmack3000
Posted

Yea, going through thousands of files to rename or move them is what i was really hoping to avoid.  That's why i wish emby would give more options when they add something new isntead of forcing everyone down the same path.  There were no issues for me when emby simply read a featurettes folder and left it at that.  

Is there at least a way to fix it so future extras don't cause this problem?

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