Roku update turns on hated motion-smoothing feature, no off switch

[Gilgamesh_48 1240]

I ran across this and was wondering if it will effect Emby. I hope not but i do not know enough to judge.

Roku update turns on hated motion-smoothing feature, with no off switch

Edited July 4, 2024 by Gilgamesh_48

[pwhodges 2012]

I presume it will affect content regardless of the source.

What we don't know is whether the inability to turn it off is simply a bug.  One article I read said that changing the still-existing setting had no effect.

I have a Roku TV, so there's no way for me to sidestep this, e.g. by using a different streaming stick.

Paul

Edited July 4, 2024 by pwhodges

[Gilgamesh_48 1240]

5 minutes ago, pwhodges said:

I presume it will affect content regardless of the source.

What we don't know is whether the inability to turn it off is simply a bug.  One article I read said that changing the still-existing setting had no effect.

I have a Roku TV, so there's no way for me to sidestep this, e.g. by using a different streaming stick.

Paul

Do not Roku TVs have HDMI inputs that can be used? I have a Fire TV, whose built in crap i absolutely hate so i never use it, I have a Roku Ultra and a Shield TV and even a Fire stick plugged into the HDMI slots and I never, except when I do something stupid, see the TV's actual interface. It is a great TV as long as I do not use its operating system. 

But I thought all Roku TVs allow other devices to be plugged in and used without interference. Am I wrong?

Dumb TVs are a lot better than Smart TVs but Smart TVs ae, generally, a lot cheaper than Dumb ones. The TV I have cost about $250.00 and an equivalent dumb one was around $450.00. i guess the advertising I don't see paid for the difference.

[speechles 2055]

Maybe they are just late getting to publish that article and just added it to their website since it was missing. They were like wait, we missed this bit about Roku forcing 60fps that happened 12 years ago. That person then went, oh well, just publish it today and act like it just happened.

Roku has always been outputing their display at 60 fps. It isn't something that just happened. It is just these people are hating on Roku.

You are safe to ignore those types of websites that cater to these type of inflammatory rage-bait articles.

https://support.roku.com/article/115012823268

You can always change this to adjust to the display rate of the playing media. But you will experience a black screen while it adjusts. Some people find the smoothing acceptable, some do not, but it isn't something that you cannot change.

 

Edited July 4, 2024 by speechles

[Gilgamesh_48 1240]

33 minutes ago, speechles said:

Maybe they are just late getting to publish that article and just added it to their website since it was missing. They were like wait, we missed this bit about Roku forcing 60fps that happened 12 years ago. That person then went, oh well, just publish it today and act like it just happened.

Roku has always been outputing their display at 60 fps. It isn't something that just happened. It is just these people are hating on Roku.

You are safe to ignore those types of websites that cater to these type of inflammatory rage-bait articles.

https://support.roku.com/article/115012823268

You can always change this to adjust to the display rate of the playing media. But you will experience a black screen while it adjusts. Some people find the smoothing acceptable, some do not, but it isn't something that you cannot change.

 

I "thought" it was upcoming not existing. I guess I should have researched a bit more before posting. 

If a mod wants to lock or, better, delete this thread I would be in total agreement. 

Sorry for wasting people's time.  

[speechles 2055]

52 minutes ago, Gilgamesh_48 said:

I "thought" it was upcoming not existing. I guess I should have researched a bit more before posting. 

If a mod wants to lock or, better, delete this thread I would be in total agreement. 

Sorry for wasting people's time.  

No no. Thank you for bringing this up. It is the nature of these types of websites to spread this misinformation to gain relevance. Then they get people to believe them is even better. Because they will reference that website and give them impressions. I am all for this. It is good that people know the Roku is doing this.

Rob Beschizza 1:10 pm Thu Jul 4, 2024

That guy posted that news as if it was something news worthy today at this moment. It isn't your fault you fall for their trap. We appreciate the fact you are looking out for us.

I myself don't mind the soap opera effect because it saves me those blank screen moments as it adjusts frame rates. I just don't really care it is doing that. But others might care and it totally blows the entire experience for them. That is why there is the option in the Roku settings. That the fellow above made that post today and makes it seem like there is no way to turn it off in settings makes it sensational journalism where they just leave out facts to purposely make an attractive headline.

See: Yellow Journalism

 

Edited July 5, 2024 by speechles

[Sammy 790]

15 hours ago, pwhodges said:

I presume it will affect content regardless of the source.

What we don't know is whether the inability to turn it off is simply a bug.  One article I read said that changing the still-existing setting had no effect.

I have a Roku TV, so there's no way for me to sidestep this, e.g. by using a different streaming stick.

Paul

Are there no HDMI ports on the TV?

[pwhodges 2012]

Why would you assume that they wouldn't be processed just the same for display?

Paul

[Sammy 790]

17 minutes ago, pwhodges said:

Why would you assume that they wouldn't be processed just the same for display?

Paul

Good point. It would most likely be the same.

I go to people's houses and cringe when they have soap opera mode turned on. Why would Roku assume everyone likes smooth motion? For those of us old enough to see film before the digital age it seems unnatural but I suppose for the younger crowd growing up on 60fps or higher video maybe 24fps seems unnatural. They should allow for personal choice in this regard. I have no Roku devices as I prefer AndroidTV / GoogleTV devices.

[pünktchen 1409]

@speechlesThey are not talking about framerate but this i think: https://support.roku.com/article/115007128487

[pwhodges 2012]

That article makes it clear that these settings do affect all inputs (and any adjustable settings are remembered per input).

Paul

[speechles 2055]

2 hours ago, pünktchen said:

@speechlesThey are not talking about framerate but this i think: https://support.roku.com/article/115007128487

This does not come enabled on "ALL" Roku TV models. I have two TCL models where there is none of those in the expert settings and both these Roku TV are on OS13. Only specific models have this available and it is easily disabled. I do not understand how they cannot turn it off. That is the rage-bait article where they leave out things they want to omit. It isn't a fact based article was where I was going. It is easily disabled. It comes enabled (because like all new features users may never discover) you enable them at first then let users discover how to disable them. You opt-in users to the new feature so it can get feedback. The more users that disable it you can clearly tell hate it. If you just opted out everyone you would never know people who never found the setting and would've loved it. That Roku article explains exactly how to disable it. The main article did not even bring up that url Roku has. In other words, it was built for rage-bait for people to spread misinformation with yellow journalism.

--> Note: Action Smoothing is Off and disabled when Game mode is On for any of the HDMI or AV inputs.

Edited July 5, 2024 by speechles

[pünktchen 1409]

Have a read here: https://community.roku.com/t5/Discussions/Motion-Smoothing-out-of-nowhere/td-p/974654