HDHome Run getting lost

[MarkTheNewf 4]

Every once in a while, perhaps 2 or three times a month, I find that Emby hasn't recorded anything after a particular day.  Turns out that the IP for the HDHomeRun Flex 4K has had its IP changed and Emby can't find it.  Easy enough to fix by going in and altering the IP in the live tv tuner setup but having to manually fix it is not the best option.  I'm using Starlink and their router doesn't provide any option for staic IP or anything even remotely configurable.  Aside from introducing another router into the mix to assign an IP to the HDHomeRun, would there be some method of having Emby find it based on being on my local network and it's MAC or some other method?

[Sammy 790]

17 minutes ago, MarkTheNewf said:

Every once in a while, perhaps 2 or three times a month, I find that Emby hasn't recorded anything after a particular day.  Turns out that the IP for the HDHomeRun Flex 4K has had its IP changed and Emby can't find it.  Easy enough to fix by going in and altering the IP in the live tv tuner setup but having to manually fix it is not the best option.  I'm using Starlink and their router doesn't provide any option for staic IP or anything even remotely configurable.  Aside from introducing another router into the mix to assign an IP to the HDHomeRun, would there be some method of having Emby find it based on being on my local network and it's MAC or some other method?

Set the ip address for the HDHomeRun Flex 4K to static in your router settings page.

Sidebar:

How do you like the Flex 4K? I'm thinking of getting one but have two quatros I am getting ready to hook up right now and since ASTC 3.0 won't be for three more years, I have time. My biggest fear with 3.0 is the implementation of DRM on what used to be free OTA TV.

[pwhodges 2012]

35 minutes ago, Sammy said:

Set the ip address for the HDHomeRun Flex 4K to static in your router settings page.

56 minutes ago, MarkTheNewf said:

I'm using Starlink and their router doesn't provide any option for static IP or anything even remotely configurable.

Paul

[MarkTheNewf 4]

1 hour ago, Sammy said:

Set the ip address for the HDHomeRun Flex 4K to static in your router settings page.

Sidebar:

How do you like the Flex 4K? I'm thinking of getting one but have two quatros I am getting ready to hook up right now and since ASTC 3.0 won't be for three more years, I have time. My biggest fear with 3.0 is the implementation of DRM on what used to be free OTA TV.

 As I stated, the Starlink router doesn't have the capability to do anything other that DHCP.  It has no way of setting up any static or anything.  I would have to get another router and put it in the network after the Starlink router.  I wish there was some way I could tell the Flex that "your IP is ......" at boot up and that'd be the end of it.

Otherwise I've had no issues with the tuner.  The video looks a whole lot better than the Tivo and it pulls in signals better than either my TVs or the Tivo.

Edited June 21, 2024 by MarkTheNewf

[Luke 42077]

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HDHomeRun, would there be some method of having Emby find it based on being on my local network and it's MAC or some other method?

We actually already do this via upnp, so for most local networks, the address change should be seamless.

[MarkTheNewf 4]

6 minutes ago, Luke said:

We actually already do this via upnp, so for most local networks, the address change should be seamless.

I don't understand.  Do you mean Emby does this?  If so, why is it not picking up on the change?  Is it possible to tell or set Emby to look up the MAC instead?

[Luke 42077]

The HDHR sends out upnp broadcasts over the local network, which Emby Server listens for. So provided that the server is getting the messages, it will handle the address change automatically.

But of course, not guaranteed to work with all router models and network conditions.

[MarkTheNewf 4]

Well, the HTPC is never shut off and hosts Emby server.   The tuner is also never shut off and is connected to the same switch as the PC so why would Emby not be updating this whenever it changes?

[Sammy 790]

1 hour ago, MarkTheNewf said:

 As I stated, the Starlink router doesn't have the capability to do anything other that DHCP.  It has no way of setting up any static or anything.  I would have to get another router and put it in the network after the Starlink router.  I wish there was some way I could tell the Flex that "your IP is ......" at boot up and that'd be the end of it.

Otherwise I've had no issues with the tuner.  The video looks a whole lot better than the Tivo and it pulls in signals better than either my TVs or the Tivo.

Get a better router.

[Luke 42077]

17 minutes ago, MarkTheNewf said:

Well, the HTPC is never shut off and hosts Emby server.   The tuner is also never shut off and is connected to the same switch as the PC so why would Emby not be updating this whenever it changes?

The server also isn't listening at all times. It would get updated on the next guide refresh.

[js28194 36]

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https://www.asus.com/us/support/faq/1047774/

 

[Sammy 790]

I'd go with Ubiquiti Unified Dream Machine. Oh yeah, I did with 4 wired Access Points. Solid WiFi everywhere inside and out.

 

Always go Prosumer!

[MarkTheNewf 4]

16 minutes ago, Sammy said:

Get a better router.

Like I said, everything works with the exception of this bug so I'd rather not.  For the record, I'm not a 'network' guy.  I just fudge my way through issues and it usually works out.   I have an Orbi mesh set up but only as wireless access points.  I would have to physically move the Orbi, bypass the Starlink, and reconfig the Orbi as the router and hope it all works as it should. <cringes>

Edited June 21, 2024 by MarkTheNewf

[js28194 36]

For the record, I am not sure if this is a "bug" as you so put it.  What would have happen?  Emby constantly scan your network for ip changes?  I don't think any software works that way.

[MarkTheNewf 4]

12 minutes ago, js28194 said:

For the record, I am not sure if this is a "bug" as you so put it.  What would have happen?  Emby constantly scan your network for ip changes?  I don't think any software works that way.

Symantics.  It's not able to do a simple thing that would be very handy on any DHCP setup.....which is darned near everything nowadays.

[js28194 36]

Not Symnatics.  Just the way things work.  YOU have a crappy setup, even on DHCP, ip's rarely change.  Have ever logged into your router and actually looked at your DHCP server and how often it has ACTUALLY changed?  Oh wait you can't.  And It's obvious from your post that yours does indeed change IP's on the LAN side frequently.  Blame Elon for Shitty hardware.  Even my AT&T (if I had a direct connection to it) doesn't change the IP on my LAN side.

Having a software provider develop to a crappy setup where YOUR ip address changes and having them monitor change on a continuous basis because someone doesn't/can't/refuses to have a stable network for a network based piece of software, is well... I will save the adjectives for another day.

Get better gear and quit blaming the software that works as designed to work.  Next you will want remote connectivity with no ability to port forward then complain how the Emby app doesn't work and how garbage it is.  Again, your complaints lay with Elon.

[MarkTheNewf 4]

17 minutes ago, js28194 said:

Not Symnatics.  Just the way things work.  YOU have a crappy setup, even on DHCP, ip's rarely change.  Have ever logged into your router and actually looked at your DHCP server and how often it has ACTUALLY changed?  Oh wait you can't.  And It's obvious from your post that yours does indeed change IP's on the LAN side frequently.  Blame Elon for Shitty hardware.  Even my AT&T (if I had a direct connection to it) doesn't change the IP on my LAN side.

Having a software provider develop to a crappy setup where YOUR ip address changes and having them monitor change on a continuous basis because someone doesn't/can't/refuses to have a stable network for a network based piece of software, is well... I will save the adjectives for another day.

Get better gear and quit blaming the software that works as designed to work.  Next you will want remote connectivity with no ability to port forward then complain how the Emby app doesn't work and how garbage it is.  Again, your complaints lay with Elon.

Waste of effort......

[Sammy 790]

@MarkTheNewf

You have two options.

1. Get a better router
2. Monitor the IP address of the HDHomeRun and manually update Emby accordingly

[MarkTheNewf 4]

I've already said I have another router and have stated why I'm not using it.  Waiting for shows not to record isn't a solution either.

DHCP has been around forever.  If the software can't adjust to keep up with that, it's a problem.  I've got 30 other things connected via DHCP and none time out or disconnect when any address(es) changes.

 

[js28194 36]

What 30 other things?  You know, don't even answer that... someone who doesn't claim to be a "network guy" know's history on DHCP.... so strange that you don't want to get your network right and use network based software.

Nerd harder EMBY team... 30 other pieces of software adjusts, your should also.  sigh

Edited June 22, 2024 by js28194

[MarkTheNewf 4]

59 minutes ago, js28194 said:

What 30 other things?  You know, don't even answer that... someone who doesn't claim to be a "network guy" know's history on DHCP.... so strange that you don't want to get your network right and use network based software.

Nerd harder EMBY team... 30 other pieces of software adjusts, your should also.  sigh

Seriously, dude, you're proving my point.  If everybody else can do it, then there's no reason Emby can't.  Hell, even Windoze MC didn't have this issue and that should be embarrassing.

Why is it not ok for me to be critical on this issue?  Why should it be the end users problem to fix?  You just sound like those fanboys that only drive corvettes and carry glocks and prattle on how those things are beyond reproach.  Apparently the same goes for you and software.  I like Emby, but unlike you, I don't fawn over it.

I have other issues with it as well, but this is a big problem as it's prime purpose for me is to be a DVR.  Everything in the world is pretty much plug-n-play-n-forget.  There's no reason Emby can't be like that as well.

[Q-Droid 989]

It looks like Starlink's DHCP assigns IP addresses in the range of .20 through .254. So if you want keep the Starlink router as your primary then use .2 through .19 for static IPs on your LAN to avoid address conflicts.

 

 

[justinrh 259]

Why doesn't Emby allow hostnames?  Then we don't care what the address is ...

Could mapping the current IP address in the OS hosts file to the hostname fix this?  I don't know if it works in reverse (address > hostname).  And then it would work only if you never care to contact the device that actually has that address from the server machine.

[Luke 42077]

3 hours ago, justinrh said:

Why doesn't Emby allow hostnames?  Then we don't care what the address is ...

 

Internally there are many things that work with the server's local ip address and some of them can only work with an ip address.

[skidmarks 199]

Darn, i came here in advance to see how emby could handle starlink.  Seems a little toxic in here?  I have the equipment being delivered tomorrow.  I already know about the limitations of the provided router:

Shared IP address (cgnat)

No Port forwarding

I will purchase another router and bypass starlinks if need be, but at the same time will see what can be done with the original equipment.  It's a 30 day test run, my ISP for the past 10 years have been out here monthly for the past two years.  Was told they were not running fiber or updating equipment anytime soon.  Spouse works from home and the only other option for me is space!  See how it goes.

When i find a solution i will most certainly post the information in a new thread... 

 

Edited July 17, 2024 by skidmarks