New, version choose idea

[markyskus 5]

I have got some movie with 2 or 3 version, and hard to choose between the versions. I think it would be great if you add some flags for it (like plex) and show the versions separetelly or add an extra button on every platform for it (like infuse) the solution that exist now is not good

or maybe a popup when I start the movie with the versions and I can choose one

[Luke 42078]

Hi there, can you please provide an example of what you see now that you think is too hard?

[Happy2Play 9780]

Yes this method has been requested in several topics.

Multiple Editions - Movies | Plex Support

Edited June 14, 2024 by Happy2Play

[markyskus 5]

on apple tv, the versions is in the select audio or subtitle menu

 

and for example infuse show it like this, 

[Happy2Play 9780]

Personally don't see how that is any different than dropdown box.

Only change Emby may need to make is force a version selection at start vs auto selection.

[markyskus 5]

1 minute ago, Happy2Play said:

Personally don't see how that is any different than dropdown box.

Only change Emby may need to make is force a version selection at start vs auto selection.

on apple tv the user must go to the select audio or subtitle menu before start the movie, infuse version shows the versions and the user could choose between it, but with the apple tv emby app version is assumes all user know which movie has got version, nothing mark or something on it (only a little icon on the "folder" which is not obvious unless you ar watching for it

[markyskus 5]

8 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

Personally don't see how that is any different than dropdown box.

Only change Emby may need to make is force a version selection at start vs auto selection.

a popup menu would be great, when the user start a movie with multiply version, a chooser pops up with buttons for the versions, and my problem is not with 4k - 1080p -720p etc, my problem is with for example blade runner final cut-theathrical cut etc (my wife hates the final cut, but in my native language the final cut the only version in 4K )

[Happy2Play 9780]

Yes as versions and editions are two totally different things.  And Emby currently has no design for Editions.

Per many other topics discussing this adding this and wanting independant watch statuses snowballs into total redesign across every client so I really don't see much changing here for a while.

 

[markyskus 5]

Just now, Happy2Play said:

Yes as versions and editions are two totally different things.  And Emby currently has no design for Editions.

Per many other topics discussing this adding this and wanting independant watch statuses snowballs into total redesign across every client so I really don't see much changing here for a while.

 

ahh, i see, you could copy the infuse's idea, it really good looking and easy to use  plex solution is works great but not looking good (add flags to editions and if I have got 3-4-10 edition from 1 movie in the library i have got 3-4-10 movie instead of 1

[Happy2Play 9780]

Yes would require database changes, redesign watch statuses, change every client UI.  

So another 5-10 years of updates/changes.

 

[markyskus 5]

Just now, Happy2Play said:

Yes would require database changes, redesign watch statuses, change every client UI.  

So another 5-10 years of updates/changes.

 

aaah, I really love emby, but sadly the apple tv app is not good (I opened issue about it earlier, for example missing A-Z in the libraries), now we use infuse (but infuse is not perfect neither) earlier we use plex, plex is the most userfriendly on apps, but plex got a lot of problem too (and i have got lifetime emby premier, so dont want to change)

[Luke 42078]

We plan to support plex style editions in future updates. Thanks.

[Tremas 197]

On 6/16/2024 at 1:16 AM, Luke said:

We plan to support plex style editions in future updates. Thanks.

+1, yes please!

[magsol76 3]

Plex style editions is...so, so... It is great with the easily accessible field for the metadata but when a movie is grouped together it can have just one description and one piece of artwork. And the biggest issue is that when choosing version to play the only options are to choose between the versions bitrates (not the names!!!).

I think that Embys dropdown is wonderful buuut there is no field to enter editions (editions just pull from the filename).

[Tremas 197]

On 8/12/2024 at 1:25 AM, magsol76 said:

Plex style editions is...so, so... It is great with the easily accessible field for the metadata but when a movie is grouped together it can have just one description and one piece of artwork. And the biggest issue is that when choosing version to play the only options are to choose between the versions bitrates (not the names!!!).

I think that Embys dropdown is wonderful buuut there is no field to enter editions (editions just pull from the filename).

Oh, that's too bad. I've never used the Plex feature, but from what I read I though that it would be separate movie in the database with it's own metadata and artwork but with a relationship between the other editions such that each one had a row in details page saying "other editions" similar to "included in" or "suggested." That's really what I want: to navigate to any "Return of the Jedi" edition and have a suggested row of other editions: Special Edition, Harmy's Despecialized, Project 83, RotJ Revisited, etc." I want each to have their own description what makes each cut unique and their own run times, audio choices, release dates, and extras. I just want them presented in a smart way to the viewer.

[magsol76 3]

Yea, that’d be great but the only way to do that is to have completely separate movieentries.

[Tremas 197]

Just now, magsol76 said:

Yea, that’d be great but the only way to do that is to have completely separate movieentries.

Yes, that is what I have and what I want to keep: separate movie entries in separate folders with their own images, and metadata. I just want a way to link them outside of collections (especially since you can't do nested collections). If it's just a drop down, then I guess I'm disappointed and it's not what I expected.

Emby's drop down, as they have attested to many times, is only for different resolutions/bitrates of the same movie (what Plex calls "versions"). The description of the film doesn't change. It's fine in that way, but it not satisfactory to me as a way to show different cuts, releases, fanedits, etc. To me, each edition has it's own intent, description, release date, cover art, sound options, commentary tracks, and more. That's why I have them as separate movies, and right now I use STRM files of the other "editions" to be included in the "Extras" of each related movie area so people notice them. It's tedious and I would love a better way to do it.

I feel these movies should be separate but related in the database and presented to the user in a way that they recognize there are multiple versions of this film on the server (or by contrast, if I only have the US Theatrical Release of Blade Runner - they know that's the only option and don't waste time looking for others).

What I personally want is a display of the edition in the description and list of other editions to link to. Like the following (from Plex's support article). I haven't actually used it, but it looks like what I was describing with the "other editions of this movie" section.