Thank you for adding Atmos tags to the latest beta client

[HDGuy 8]

Works well, thanks.
 

Are HDR10+ and DTS-X tags a possibility?

[ebr 16170]

1 hour ago, HDGuy said:

Are HDR10+ and DTS-X tags a possibility?

Does that information show up in the media info cards at the bottom?

[HDGuy 8]

10 hours ago, ebr said:

Does that information show up in the media info cards at the bottom?

DTS-X does, HDR10+ I’m not sure because it’s an extension of HDR10. It should be doable because I’ve seen other devices (like my Z9X) display HDR10+ tags properly.

[rbjtech 5284]

6 hours ago, HDGuy said:

DTS-X does, HDR10+ I’m not sure because it’s an extension of HDR10. It should be doable because I’ve seen other devices (like my Z9X) display HDR10+ tags properly.

Where are you seeing this ? - as unless Emby has updated to the latest ffmpeg (which I don't believe they have) then audio object based information (DTS:X, Atmos etc) is not detected.    Dolby Vision and HDR10+ should be detected (but I don't believe it 'tags' it?)

Maybe you are using the MediaInfo Plugin - in which case this is where the extra information is coming from and this also allows you the option to add those attributes as emby 'tags'.

[HDGuy 8]

2 hours ago, rbjtech said:

Where are you seeing this ? - as unless Emby has updated to the latest ffmpeg (which I don't believe they have) then audio object based information (DTS:X, Atmos etc) is not detected.    Dolby Vision and HDR10+ should be detected (but I don't believe it 'tags' it?)

Maybe you are using the MediaInfo Plugin - in which case this is where the extra information is coming from and this also allows you the option to add those attributes as emby 'tags'.

Android TV beta client 2.1.14g now displays “TrueHD Atmos” (although EAC/DD+ Atmos doesn’t seem to work). The release notes say “Improve Atmos Display”. On the web client if I do a drop down for the audio tracks of a DTS-X rip It says English DTS-HD MA 7.1 in big letters, in small right under it says “DTS:X 7.1”.

I am not using the Media Info plugin as it will not work with my Unraid Emby server. 

 

 

[rbjtech 5284]

28 minutes ago, HDGuy said:

Android TV beta client 2.1.14g now displays “TrueHD Atmos” (although EAC/DD+ Atmos doesn’t seem to work). The release notes say “Improve Atmos Display”. On the web client if I do a drop down for the audio tracks of a DTS-X rip It says English DTS-HD MA 7.1 in big letters, in small right under it says “DTS:X 7.1”.

I am not using the Media Info plugin as it will not work with my Unraid Emby server. 

 

 

Ah thanks - this was released a few days ago and I haven't yet used this release.

I haven't seen any updates to the Server (I'm using the Stable Release) so I'm presuming this detection is being done in the client.

I'll test shortly but a clear way to confirm is to see what's being reported in the item metadata - unless that contains the Atmos/DTS:X etc details - then we can be sure it's the client doing it.

[rbjtech 5284]

41 minutes ago, HDGuy said:

 On the web client if I do a drop down for the audio tracks of a DTS-X rip It says English DTS-HD MA 7.1 in big letters, in small right under it says “DTS:X 7.1”.

That is simply reading the track title - that could have been put there from anywhere.

Only if it shows these details on the 'mediaInfo' can we be sure that emby has extracted this data (which can then be used for filters etc).

[HDGuy 8]

1 hour ago, rbjtech said:

That is simply reading the track title - that could have been put there from anywhere.

Only if it shows these details on the 'mediaInfo' can we be sure that emby has extracted this data (which can then be used for filters etc).

I’m not so sure about that because if that’s the case it appears to be doing the same thing for the Atmos tags.

I am looking at the Media Info for my Alien Covenant rip (shows Atmos tag)

Title: English TrueHD 7.1 (Default)

Embedded Title: TrueHD 7.1 Atmos

——————-

Crimson Peak rip-

Title: English DTS-HD MA 7.1

Embedded Title: DTS:X 7.1

My Zidoo Z9X’s HT4.0 built in app also gets its tags from Media Info and it displays all the various tags- Dolby Vision, HDR10, HDR10+, Atmos, DTS-X, etc. I just use Emby because it’s faster and works across multiple platforms.

 

So it appears the new beta client is displaying the Atmos tag from the Embedded Title info (probably why my Atmos EAC3 titles don’t display the tag), if so then  it could do the same for DTS-X titles.

Edited May 30, 2024 by HDGuy

[rbjtech 5284]

56 minutes ago, HDGuy said:

I’m not so sure about that because if that’s the case it appears to be doing the same thing for the Atmos tags.

I am looking at the Media Info for my Alien Covenant rip (shows Atmos tag)

Title: English TrueHD 7.1 (Default)

Embedded Title: TrueHD 7.1 Atmos

——————-

Crimson Peak rip-

Title: English DTS-HD MA 7.1

Embedded Title: DTS:X 7.1

My Zidoo Z9X’s HT4.0 built in app also gets its tags from Media Info and it displays all the various tags- Dolby Vision, HDR10, HDR10+, Atmos, DTS-X, etc. I just use Emby because it’s faster and works across multiple platforms.

 

So it appears the new beta client is displaying the Atmos tag from the Embedded Title info (probably why my Atmos EAC3 titles don’t display the tag), if so then  it could do the same for DTS-X titles.

Yes you have confirmed exactly what I way saying.  The DTS:X and Atmos 'information' is just held in the MKV Track Title - Emby has not extracted this info, it's simply displaying it.

We use exactly the same method in the MediaInfo Plugin - we change the info on the MKV Track title - not the emby metadata.

So for the new AndroidTV client - @ebr 'Atmos' is now being displayed (see below) - and the only way it can do that, is by the client (AndroidTV) querying the stream with a newer version of ffmpeg than emby current use in the server.   

So using the new AndroidTV version - you can see this is now displaying Truehd Atmos 7.1 

and for Dolby Digital Plus Atmos - this also displays now

It does not do it for DTS:X - as this is a DTS:X Audio track - not sure if this is planned ?   @ebr?

But the reason you see it in some clients, is because you have opted to show the embedded MKV track name.

So in the example below (and for all my media, because I use the mediaInfo plugin) - the track info contains all the info - DTS:X included (not in this example, as it doesn't have a DTS:X track..) but you get the idea.

 

Thanks for the update @ebr

Edited May 30, 2024 by rbjtech

[ebr 16170]

2 hours ago, rbjtech said:

and the only way it can do that, is by the client (AndroidTV) querying the stream with a newer version of ffmpeg than emby current use in the server

It isn't that sophisticated.  Its just grabbing it from the embedded track title.  I can make it see DTS:X too but that may look a little redundant as it will say 'DTS' twice.

[rbjtech 5284]

1 minute ago, ebr said:

It isn't that sophisticated.  Its just grabbing it from the embedded track title.  I can make it see DTS:X too but that may look a little redundant as it will say 'DTS' twice.

Ah really - haha.

Maybe just identify as 'DTS:X' but just append the :X ?    

[HDGuy 8]

1 hour ago, ebr said:

It isn't that sophisticated.  Its just grabbing it from the embedded track title.  I can make it see DTS:X too but that may look a little redundant as it will say 'DTS' twice.

Ah- probably why Atmos doesn't show up for EAC3 Atmos titles. Some titles do list HDR10+ in the media info, but most don't because it's basically just an extension. I wonder how my Zidoo's HT4.0 suite is able to display the correct tags for everything?

For DTS:X maybe you can add it afterwards like (X) or (DTS-X), etc etc. 

 

Edited May 30, 2024 by HDGuy

[rbjtech 5284]

36 minutes ago, HDGuy said:

Some titles do list HDR10+ in the media info, but most don't because it's basically just an extension. I wonder how my Zidoo's HT4.0 suite is able to display the correct tags for everything?

Emby does detect the HDR correctly - HDR10, HDR10+, DV5,7,9 etc ?

If emby is only detecting it as HDR10, then you may need to Refresh the item or entire library (as this capability was only recently added) or it may not be HDR10+

[HDGuy 8]

Just now, rbjtech said:

Emby does detect the HDR correctly - HDR10, HDR10+, DV5,7,9 etc ?

If emby is only detecting it as HDR10, then you may need to Refresh the item or entire library (as this capability was only recently added) or it may not be HDR10+

It shows HDR10+ tags or just HDR10+ in the media info? I haven't seen any HDR10+ tags.

[Veeb 1]

Hmm mine only shows cc(off) is there an option to enable video and audio info? Thanks.

[ebr 16170]

1 hour ago, Veeb said:

Hmm mine only shows cc(off) is there an option to enable video and audio info? Thanks.

Hi.  App display settings - show extended media information.

[Veeb 1]

Ah, I thought that only added detail at the bottom of this info screen, I'll switch it on, thanks so much!