metadata-collection not working as expected on separated folders

[Happy2Play 9780]

e001-e1100 episodes with metadata, 100 episodes per folder

Absolute order

 

Only thing I have not tested is adding Specials as technically there are no specials via Absolute.

[RokeWayne 5]

1 minute ago, Happy2Play said:

Only thing I have not tested is adding Specials as technically there are no specials via Absolute.

Well, exactly the reason why i did some tests with leaving that folder aside

 

But on other tv shows it works reasonably well, when i mix absolute order with "eXXX" file naming for normal episodes and "s00eXX" file naming for specials. I simply have to manually change the season meta data of the special to 0, then emby understands it is a special and after reopening the metadata dialog I can configure, where I want the special to appear, e.g. "show before season 1 Epiosde 123 (of absolute order)".
I have another show, where I have that constellation working, e.g. "my hero academia".

[Happy2Play 9780]

Testing specials does not work and ignores S00Exx and readd Exx and multi-versions, as per provider metadata there is no S00.  So Absolute will not add Specials correctly if they are number order.

Looks okay here

But those 53 as duplicates of the first 53 episodes.

requiring manual edit on every special.

But have not run into a scenario that episodes are not identified with metadata.

[Happy2Play 9780]

But can say with some work you can add Specials to show in Aired order to get metadata, then lock Specials folder and change Show to Absolute and add all episodes to have everything display properly.

As for specials positioning data that is another story per a change to only apply to "SPECIAL IS CRITICAL TO SHOW'S STORY" currently.

[Luke 42077]

@RokeWayneplease let us know if this helps. Thanks !

[RokeWayne 5]

Hi, together.

@LukeFirst I'll show you how my gui in emby looks on different places. The sequence that @Happy2Playsuggested I'll do after work today.

For your convenience I set the display language to english, so we can discuss without the need to translate anything that appears.

My Library folder (SMB-share, top directory / folder):

results in emby (top level folder view )

You can see that other shows are already correctly identified and also, that additional information after a hyphen will not appear on the emby side WHEN the tv show (or season) is corectly found / identified. in the special case of one Piece you can see no year below the entry, a small "folder" icon in the corner of the tile (upper left) and the entry is clearly named like the folder in my share.

Now we'll go into the one piece folder on my share and klick on that one piece entry in emby:

in the share you now see:

and in emby:

From my point of view the subfolders are now merged into one show by emby. Since my Experiment 2 worked (where i removed the layer that contains the separate folders) the folder above seems to be just - well - a directory. Maybe I could've  called it anything, but for the purpose of oversight in my library folder i called it like what resides in it, so "One Piece".

metadata on the tv show level:

Since I let folders revert to my old state overnight, my file order configuration was  back at "airdate". I changed it to "absolute" and this again happened after some minutes:

Again it looks like the metadata addition halted on the verge of my folders. See above to confirm, that around 400 files are in the folders. If its again that state like when i started the thread, i can wait however long i want and no other episodes will get their metadata.

Now my configurations, that could be involved,  in emby and to the library:

 

Now i think subtitle and playback config doesnt matter.

If I did miss a crucial config, just tell me.

Later /After work I'll try to add the files how @Happy2Playtold me. I'll give another update then.

 

Thx.

[RokeWayne 5]

21 minutes ago, RokeWayne said:

 

I'm noticing here, that the "edit metadata" dialog explicitly refers to my "001 - 399" subfolder, but in the metadata manager I'm not able to find entries that would correspond to the other subfolders with normal episodes in it: only "specials" and the first normal episodes one:

Edited May 27, 2024 by RokeWayne

[Lessaj 467]

While I don't disagree that it should be able to handle the multiple subfolders I'm not really clear on why you need to separate the episodes into different folders in the first place? What are you hoping to gain by doing this?

[Happy2Play 9780]

6 hours ago, RokeWayne said:

I'm noticing here, that the "edit metadata" dialog explicitly refers to my "001 - 399" subfolder, but in the metadata manager I'm not able to find entries that would correspond to the other subfolders with normal episodes in it: only "specials" and the first normal episodes one:

Was just looking at that as Series and Metadata Manager are showing wrong folder levels. But can only guess it has something to do with Automatic merge as disabling it separates all folders.  So technically this structure is misidentified but sort of corrects itself as subfolder is identified as Show not parent folder.

So adding all the additional folders is breaking supported structured identification to a certain point.

 

[Neminem 1518]

I have noticed that you tvdb id looks wrong

use tvdbId=

insted of tvdb=

Meaning the id is not used.

Edit

Ohh just read through the TV Naming it should be good

Edited May 27, 2024 by jaycedk
Wrong info

[Happy2Play 9780]

Good eye as I usually over look that.  That may help but not sure if wrong folder level will be used per unsupported additional folders being used as Show instead of parent folder.

Will add that to my test shortly.

[Neminem 1518]

But it might be a outdated wiki , try with tvdbid=

[Happy2Play 9780]

1 minute ago, jaycedk said:

But it might be a outdated wiki , try with tvdbid=

The issue is nesting and the server picking the correct show level folder and these artifical season folders become Show level and require the Automatic merge option to group them.

So this technically becomes 12 shows if not grouped.

During scan before merging

But could be from my chances but will test some more.

[Happy2Play 9780]

@Lukewould have to comment if the parser should automatically stop at folder with providerid and enforce it being parent folder as that is not happening in this scenario and going to subfolders and grouping.

from my test it is always this folder

[Neminem 1518]

@Happy2Playit looks like you are using Aired in that example.

[Happy2Play 9780]

1 minute ago, jaycedk said:

@Happy2Playit looks like you are using Aired in that example.

Hmm changed folder and forgot to change order again.  But everything is showing correctly.

But can say I now see the broken metadata the more I scroll.

But will guess do to Aired it technically stopping and auto merge is group with limited info it everything technically corrupted.  Will change to Absolute again and will bet all will get metadata.

[Happy2Play 9780]

As suspected changing to Absolute also applied metadata

 

But you can see parent folder it completely ignored it is just a folder not a Series/Show.

Subfolder used as Show/Series.

So in the end one can say it may work but is technically not supported.

[Neminem 1518]

If using Absolute all episodes should be in 1 folder.

Or is that failing ?

Emby not going over 999 episodes, like the y2k bug.

[Happy2Play 9780]

7 minutes ago, jaycedk said:

If using Absolute all episodes should be in 1 folder.

Or is that failing ?

No that work fine in my test as that is the purpose of Absolute, all episode sequentially numbered in one folder.

8 minutes ago, jaycedk said:

Emby not going over 999 episodes, like the y2k bug.

Works fine in my test for 1001-1100.

[Neminem 1518]

So it's working within the parameter's, but not with folder naming choose by op.

[Happy2Play 9780]

1 minute ago, jaycedk said:

So it's working within the parameter's, but not with folder naming choose by op.

Correct trying to segment these 1100 is the issue from a Absolute standpoint.  Not saying it can't be done but technically not supported.

[Happy2Play 9780]

I guess while we are here @Lukeare all these formats supported? 

[RokeWayne 5]

Hi at all helping here.

My point in separating the subfolders was the sheer amount in files, that resides in it, when I stash everthing into one folder.

Number of episodes times three (because of additional thumbs-picture and nfo per episode) and some few extra files resulting already in over 3300 files af of today ( potentially growing as the show's not ended yet), that I have to scroll through if something is not right or if I have to do something on file level.

Since I knew of the merging option I thought it would be an elegant way of getting better ogranized folder.

@Happy2Play

But I still don't understand something: 

In your setup the meta data collection works reproducable, in mine it doesn't reproducable. Do we have differences in our setup / config? Is it the merging option?

 

Regardless of the answer it looks I'll have to live with an immense folder for this show xD

 

Kind regards

Roke

[Happy2Play 9780]

Honestly can not say exactly as Emby technically uses the wrong folder level for identification in this nested scenario.  As you have done different test as one image show specials as your show folder and another shows 001 - 399 as show folder.

Only guess may be Emby cached data  \cache\tvdb\81797

But in the end Emby can/will have quirks when deviating from required structure.

[RokeWayne 5]

1 minute ago, Happy2Play said:

Honestly can not say exactly as Emby technically uses the wrong folder level for identification in this nested scenario.  As you have done different test as one image show specials as your show folder and another shows 001 - 399 as show folder.

Only guess may be Emby cached data  \cache\tvdb\81797

But in the end Emby can/will have quirks when deviating from required structure.

I just asked because of my curious nature

Since I learned software developing I tend to wanting to understand what programs / systems do in the background so I can use software quirks to my utmost advantage.

Thanks for your patience and your support. I' ll correct my folder structure to officially supported ways and give one last update in a while.