Upgraded to 4.8.7.0. Where is the sorting setting?

[17732 21]

Where is the setting in the red box? Why can't I drag and drop sorting after I upgrade?

[Luke 42077]

Hi, there are drag handles where the up and down arrows used to be:

[17732 21]

1 hour ago, Luke said:

Hi, there are drag handles where the up and down arrows used to be:

okay

[tekni63 3]

the only thing that bothers me is that I can't migrate my user data / various existing media libraries from my version 4.7.10.0 to the new 4.8.7.0 ...
Am I condemned to lose everything and start all over again? or can I still hope for a solution?

[Luke 42077]

27 minutes ago, tekni63 said:

the only thing that bothers me is that I can't migrate my user data / various existing media libraries from my version 4.7.10.0 to the new 4.8.7.0 ...
Am I condemned to lose everything and start all over again? or can I still hope for a solution?

Hi, why can’t you just install over the top?

[tekni63 3]

Hi
Thanks for your reply.
If I understood your question correctly, I use the version for docker container, with each update (not all fortunately), I reinstall a container with the latest version coming from the "image" part of Container Manager.
I've never been able to find a way to upgrade an emby server on the same container.
Is it possible? If so, could you tell me how? Is there a tutorial available?
thanks for your feedback.
(in fact, what gets me into trouble is that the two versions of the backup & restore plugin (which I usually use to transfer configuration) aren't compatible with each other.
more details here: https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/128891-backup-restore-plugin-compatibility
 

[DonMacaroni 54]

@tekni63in general, when using Docker, your storage should be outside of container. In this case, Emby database. Container itself should be considered disposable.

Edited May 19, 2024 by DonMacaroni

[tekni63 3]

ok ok

I'm mainly looking to import my histories, user profiles, libraries, playlists, etc. 
from the latest version of emby from a 4.7 ... and there is a major compatibility problem obviously
that's what I'm trying to do

I don't think a simple copy and paste is going to help me with that, even though I'd love to.

[Luke 42077]

9 hours ago, tekni63 said:

ok ok

I'm mainly looking to import my histories, user profiles, libraries, playlists, etc. 
from the latest version of emby from a 4.7 ... and there is a major compatibility problem obviously
that's what I'm trying to do

I don't think a simple copy and paste is going to help me with that, even though I'd love to.

What would you like to import from it?

[tekni63 3]

from my 4.7 version, I'm looking to transfer media libraries, user profiles (history, media library access, etc...), my playlists (from what I've understood, in 4.8 I believe that playlists can be set up under the user profile ...)

[Luke 42077]

The only way right now is to install 4.8 on top of 4.7. There isn't really a tool to take 4.7 data and convert it to 4.8.

If you have a 4.7 backup then you might want to install 4.7.14, restore from the backup, and then upgrade that to 4.8.

[tekni63 3]

Ok I'll try to do that soon, thank you for your advice

[tekni63 3]

I've installed 4.7.14 but the b&r plugin is same version of 4.8.7.0, it's pointless ...

why change everything from 4.7 to 4.8?
Besides, looking at the forum, I get the impression that 4.8 is fully bugged.

the only result of my attempts is a waste of time for the moment, it's very frustrating

 

[Luke 42077]

@tekni63

HI, I apologize for the disruption. The 4.7 and 4.8 backups are different and not compatible with each other. I know it's not ideal to introduce that sort of friction, but changes were necessary in order to improve the backup system.

[tekni63 3]

OK, I understand the move, but the problem is that I'm losing hundreds of hours of settings, annotations and film poster choices, etc ...  with this action.
I'm clearly not prepared to lose all that, and the reason I chose to buy an emby licence was precisely so that I could have peace of mind about all that in the future ...
So for the moment I'm sticking with my 4.7.10 but I feel slightly cheated.
Is there any hope of developing a tool that would make up for the fact that you've forgotten people in my situation?
I imagine my frustration won't be hard for you to understand, thank you for your consideration.

[GrimReaper 4739]

On 5/28/2024 at 11:05 PM, tekni63 said:

I've installed 4.7.14 but the b&r plugin is same version of 4.8.7.0, it's pointless

I'm confused by this, as latest plugin version for 4.7.14.0 should be 1.5.1.0 (which is "old" iteration of the plugin, working with previous backups), I'm looking at it right now as I still run 4.7.14.0 instance in parallel with 4.8.8.0, you shouldn't even be able to install any of the later plugin versions (latest is 1.6.6.0), as in current 4.8+ server. So I'm unclear why this:

On 5/22/2024 at 12:49 AM, Luke said:

If you have a 4.7 backup then you might want to install 4.7.14, restore from the backup, and then upgrade that to 4.8.

ain't working. 

[Luke 42077]

52 minutes ago, GrimReaper said:

I'm confused by this, as latest plugin version for 4.7.14.0 should be 1.5.1.0 (which is "old" iteration of the plugin, working with previous backups), I'm looking at it right now as I still run 4.7.14.0 instance in parallel with 4.8.8.0, you shouldn't even be able to install any of the later plugin versions (latest is 1.6.6.0), as in current 4.8+ server. So I'm unclear why this:

ain't working. 

what exactly do you think isn't working, because it's two separate operations. First on 4.7 you use the 4.7 version of the backup plugin to restore. A million people used this before 4.8 so we know this works.

Then you simply upgrade that install to 4.8.

[GrimReaper 4739]

Exactly. Hence I said:

56 minutes ago, GrimReaper said:

I'm confused by this

 

On 5/28/2024 at 11:05 PM, tekni63 said:

I've installed 4.7.14 but the b&r plugin is same version of 4.8.7.0, it's pointless ...

 

[Luke 42077]

1 hour ago, tekni63 said:

OK, I understand the move, but the problem is that I'm losing hundreds of hours of settings, annotations and film poster choices, etc ...  with this action.
I'm clearly not prepared to lose all that, and the reason I chose to buy an emby licence was precisely so that I could have peace of mind about all that in the future ...
So for the moment I'm sticking with my 4.7.10 but I feel slightly cheated.
Is there any hope of developing a tool that would make up for the fact that you've forgotten people in my situation?
I imagine my frustration won't be hard for you to understand, thank you for your consideration.

HI, if you have a working 4.7 install, then why can't you  just upgrade it to 4.8?

Also, why not start by upgrading to 4.7.14 so you're at least on the latest 4.7 version?

[tekni63 3]

On 6/3/2024 at 11:06 PM, Luke said:

HI, if you have a working 4.7 install, then why can't you  just upgrade it to 4.8?

Also, why not start by upgrading to 4.7.14 so you're at least on the latest 4.7 version?

Because you can't upgrade a container directly, you have to reinitialise it with a ‘latest’ image. (it's possible that we can and that I don't know how to do it, I'm not sure that I've mastered Docker perfectly)
As a result, all the settings are lost and you end up with a blank application on which you have to restore the settings and parameters.

[tekni63 3]

Sorry for the latency of the return but I've been trying to work it out myself.
I've more or less found a solution that limits the damage, but before I explain it I'll confirm that when I installed the container with a 4.7.14.0 image, I automatically had the B&R plugin in version 1.6.6.0 (no idea why) and so I couldn't restore anything mechanically.
So what I did was to temporarily dispense with Docker (Container Manager), I installed emby 4.7.14.0 directly in the synology application, and there the B&R plugin was in a version compatible with my B&R archives from my working container (a 4.7.10.0 from memory).
I restored my data (everything the B&R 1.5.1.0 allowed)
And from my Synology Emby version, I updated to 4.8.8.0, then I exported my data with the B&R1.6.6.0, then I recreated an emby 4.8.8.0 container and restored from my backup of my native synology software.
I hope I've made myself clear, it's a bit complicated I admit.
So I'm testing the ‘new’ application and I'm very satisfied at the moment, I hope I won't have the same problem in the future.
By the way, I've lost a few collections and my playlists but that's not the worst of it, I've saved my viewing history (phew) and favourites.

If I can help you and you need more info on how I managed, I'll be available.

Now I'm having another problem with the metadatas, and this one is more annoying.
My emby is in French and some of the actors' metadatas appear in English, others in French, and on still others I've got nothing at all, it's pretty incomprehensible.
But I'll do some research on this forum, maybe the problem has already been mentioned.
Thank you for your work and support, I've been a bit frustrated lately but Emby is a great product, I'm very happy with it.

 

[Luke 42077]

On 6/8/2024 at 4:24 PM, tekni63 said:

Because you can't upgrade a container directly, you have to reinitialise it with a ‘latest’ image. (it's possible that we can and that I don't know how to do it, I'm not sure that I've mastered Docker perfectly)
As a result, all the settings are lost and you end up with a blank application on which you have to restore the settings and parameters.

Have you tried with Docker pull?

https://phoenixnap.com/kb/update-docker-image-container