custom (parental) ratings for series

[MagicDoubleM 121]

Can we make the custom parental rating of a show make count for every season and ep as long as there is none set for those? Right now, I have to edit every single episode to have it showing up.

[Luke 42078]

Hi, it already does this.

[Luke 42078]

Well let me clarify, the inherited value does not get displayed, but it is utilized for parental control restrictions.

[MagicDoubleM 121]

Hm, interesting. Let me explain this one particular case. I have a show, and unlike usually, this one has rating Infos for every episode, they're TV-MA. Now when I set the custom rating on show-level to TV-14 I'd like to see all underlying episodes show up on a account that is limited to TV-14. 

But that doesn't happen. I get to see the show info, but no episodes.

[Happy2Play 9780]

Yes if episodes don't have specific rating it will inherit from Series level.  But since you have episode with specific rating set you would have to set each episode to override it.

I don't believe it is but @Lukeis episode level mpaa being written?  As I see mixed result on my test system.

[MagicDoubleM 121]

2 hours ago, Happy2Play said:

Yes if episodes don't have specific rating it will inherit from Series level.  But since you have episode with specific rating set you would have to set each episode to override it.

I don't believe it is but @Lukeis episode level mpaa being written?  As I see mixed result on my test system.

Hm, yeah, I assumed it's coming from emby, whenever there is such a info found in the databases, but it could be coming from Sonarr maybe.

I still think "Custom Rating" on show-level should be prioritized for decision-making, as long as season and eps don't have a "Custom Rating". 

[Luke 42078]

On 3/1/2024 at 12:25 PM, Happy2Play said:

Yes if episodes don't have specific rating it will inherit from Series level.  But since you have episode with specific rating set you would have to set each episode to override it.

I don't believe it is but @Lukeis episode level mpaa being written?  As I see mixed result on my test system.

Normally it's going to be null and inherited from the series.

[Luke 42078]

On 3/1/2024 at 3:26 PM, MagicDoubleM said:

Hm, yeah, I assumed it's coming from emby, whenever there is such a info found in the databases, but it could be coming from Sonarr maybe.

I still think "Custom Rating" on show-level should be prioritized for decision-making, as long as season and eps don't have a "Custom Rating". 

Are you using nfo files created by other software?

[MagicDoubleM 121]

On 3/6/2024 at 6:43 AM, Luke said:

Are you using nfo files created by other software?

Indeed, these infos probably originated from sonarr's nfo-file.

[Luke 42078]

Maybe try turning off nfo generation in sonarr?

[Happy2Play 9780]

2 minutes ago, Luke said:

Maybe try turning off nfo generation in sonarr?

Haven't found the variable but just removed Identification and redentified a show and episode level mpaa was written.

<mpaa>TV-14</mpaa>

Currently tested with everything enabled.

4.8.3.0

[Luke 42078]

35 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

Haven't found the variable but just removed Identification and redentified a show and episode level mpaa was written.

<mpaa>TV-14</mpaa>

Currently tested with everything enabled.

4.8.3.0

Maybe tvdb sends it back at the episode level in some cases?

[Happy2Play 9780]

11 minutes ago, Luke said:

Maybe tvdb sends it back at the episode level in some cases?

Actually in this case it is coming from OMDB per cached metadata.

[Baenwort 118]

So I'm trying to figure out a parental controls issue displaying shows for my kid and I think I've IDed it as the issue described here.

Does this get resolved in one of the beta server versions?

[Luke 42078]

1 hour ago, Baenwort said:

So I'm trying to figure out a parental controls issue displaying shows for my kid and I think I've IDed it as the issue described here.

Does this get resolved in one of the beta server versions?

Hi, what issue are you referring to? 

[Happy2Play 9780]

7 hours ago, Baenwort said:

So I'm trying to figure out a parental controls issue displaying shows for my kid and I think I've IDed it as the issue described here.

Does this get resolved in one of the beta server versions?

As mentioned above if episodes will inherit from Series unless they contain their own Parental Rating.  If that is the case, then you have to customize each episode's PA as Cutom PA will not override existing episode data from Series level.

This script has been mentioned in other topics for this issue.

 

[Baenwort 118]

16 hours ago, Happy2Play said:

As mentioned above if episodes will inherit from Series unless they contain their own Parental Rating.  If that is the case, then you have to customize each episode's PA as Cutom PA will not override existing episode data from Series level.

This script has been mentioned in other topics for this issue.

 

This was what I was seeking to confirm as logically the child should inherit (be overruled) by the parent hierarchy. This is how it works in all the other situations when I have a metadata set by a specific user/admin action at a higher level.

That script looks like it can solve my problem, but it would be nice if Emby followed the logical conventions of other situations. 

[Luke 42078]

1 hour ago, Baenwort said:

This was what I was seeking to confirm as logically the child should inherit (be overruled) by the parent hierarchy. This is how it works in all the other situations when I have a metadata set by a specific user/admin action at a higher level.

That script looks like it can solve my problem, but it would be nice if Emby followed the logical conventions of other situations. 

The logical convention is the child overrides the parent, unless it is left blank, and then it inherits. So that is what happens.

[ebr 16178]

8 hours ago, Baenwort said:

the child should inherit (be overruled) by the parent hierarchy

6 hours ago, Luke said:

The logical convention is the child overrides the parent, unless it is left blank, and then it inherits. So that is what happens.

Correct.  If we did what you suggested (parent overrides) how could you ever make a child item have a different rating from the rest of the series?  If we did that, there would be no point in having ratings on the child items.

[Baenwort 118]

On 4/30/2025 at 7:44 AM, ebr said:

Correct.  If we did what you suggested (parent overrides) how could you ever make a child item have a different rating from the rest of the series?  If we did that, there would be no point in having ratings on the child items.

Ask Microsoft? That is how file permissions work on a network share and SharePoint.

You could also ask most other metadata structures that use a ACE structure. 

Which occurs more often? Wanting to make an entire series available (potentially dozens or hundreds of episodes) or restricting just a few episodes?  Which is more administrative burden, having a flag to hide or not hide something for the few episodes that need it or having to click through dozens or hundreds of individual episodes?

I think the better solution would be to have a 'apply to all episodes' toggle that would batch set a series from the series level metadata editing window. This would be similar to how most access control enforcement structures have a 'inherit' button that configures if the parent overrides or that recursively set permissions of the child objects to that of the parent.

[ebr 16178]

13 hours ago, Baenwort said:

I think the better solution would be to have a 'apply to all episodes' toggle

Well, that is different from having the parent override the child item though.  I stand by my question.  If we made the parent override the child, there would be no point in even supporting the child rating because the parent would always override it and the meta providers put ratings on the series.

[Luke 42078]

Right, at that point we might as well just take away the ability to assign a rating to an episode.