What populates the ratings?

[BillOatman 596]

This is a recent example ..

 

Note no rating.  The series is correctly identified in Emby:

 

But no rating appears.  

 

IMDB has a rating.

What needs to be present for Emby to use a rating?

[GrimReaper 4740]

1 minute ago, BillOatman said:

What needs to be present for Emby to use a rating?

OMDB meta-provider enabled in your library settings.

[Luke 42078]

What metadata fetchers are enabled on the library and in what order?

[BillOatman 596]

3 minutes ago, Luke said:

What metadata fetchers are enabled on the library and in what order?

[BillOatman 596]

5 minutes ago, GrimReaper said:

OMDB meta-provider enabled in your library settings.

No since it is a tv series library.

[Luke 42078]

1 minute ago, BillOatman said:

So then they come from tvdb.

[GrimReaper 4740]

10 minutes ago, BillOatman said:

No since it is a tv series library.

So? OMDb API returns both Movies and TV shows, and you'd get IMDB rating (if available) from it.

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{"Title":"24","Year":"2001–2010","Rated":"TV-14","Released":"06 Nov 2001","Runtime":"44 min","Genre":"Action, Crime, Drama","Director":"N/A","Writer":"Robert Cochran, Joel Surnow","Actors":"Kiefer Sutherland, Mary Lynn Rajskub, Carlos Bernard","Plot":"Counter Terrorism Agent Jack Bauer races against the clock to subvert terrorist plots and save his nation from ultimate disaster.","Language":"English, Russian, German, Korean, Arabic, Spanish, Serbian, Mandarin","Country":"United States","Awards":"Won 20 Primetime Emmys. 74 wins & 207 nominations total","Poster":"https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTg5OTkyNzA0NF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMDYyMDUwMg@@._V1_SX300.jpg","Ratings":[{"Source":"Internet Movie Database","Value":"8.4/10"}],"Metascore":"N/A","imdbRating":"8.4","imdbVotes":"195,238","imdbID":"tt0285331","Type":"series","totalSeasons":"9","Response":"True"}

10 minutes ago, Luke said:

So then they come from tvdb.

AFAIK TVDB doesn't return IMDB ratings.

[Luke 42078]

13 minutes ago, GrimReaper said:

So? OMDb API returns both Movies and TV shows, and you'd get IMDB rating (if available) from it.

AFAIK TVDB doesn't return IMDB ratings.

No but they have their own rating feature I thought.

[GrimReaper 4740]

Just now, Luke said:

No but they have their own rating feature I thought.

They did, but abandoned it 2-3 years ago, IIRC.

[BillOatman 596]

@GrimReaper  @Luke

I enabled OMDB and I still get no ratings after rescan.

TVDB doesn't seem to have any ratings.

[GrimReaper 4740]

Just now, BillOatman said:

I enabled OMDB and I still get no ratings after rescan.

That particular show as in your example still has no IMDB ratings entered as it's quite recently aired.

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{"Title":"Masters of the Air","Year":"2024–","Rated":"N/A","Released":"26 Jan 2024","Runtime":"N/A","Genre":"Action, Drama, Thriller","Director":"N/A","Writer":"John Orloff","Actors":"Austin Butler, Callum Turner, Anthony Boyle","Plot":"Five miles above the ground and behind enemy lines, eleven men inside a bomber known as a \"Flying Fortress\" battle unrelenting flocks of German fighters.","Language":"English","Country":"United States","Awards":"N/A","Poster":"https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BZDBkOTA2YjEtYjJjZi00NzE1LTkwYTUtYTVkZGFiZDIxM2I5XkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMTkxNjUyNQ@@._V1_SX300.jpg","Ratings":[],"Metascore":"N/A","imdbRating":"N/A","imdbVotes":"N/A","imdbID":"tt2640044","Type":"series","totalSeasons":"1","Response":"True"}

Do you have any other rating-less shows?

[Luke 42078]

4 minutes ago, BillOatman said:

@GrimReaper  @Luke

I enabled OMDB and I still get no ratings after rescan.

TVDB doesn't seem to have any ratings.

Did you read the help text at the top of the  library settings dialog? What does it say?

[BillOatman 596]

1 minute ago, GrimReaper said:

That particular show as in your example still has no IMDB ratings entered as it's quite recently aired.

Do you have any other rating-less shows?

I did but I refreshed after adding OMDB and it has ratings now.  Thanks.

[BillOatman 596]

4 minutes ago, Luke said:

Did you read the help text at the top of the  library settings dialog? What does it say?

It says a refresh is required after changing sources.  I did that, the Masters of the Air still had no ratings.  @GrimReaper's thought of it being too new for OMDB to have IMDB ratings has merit since refreshing other older series that had no ratings populated them.

[Luke 42078]

Just now, BillOatman said:

It says a refresh is required after changing sources.  I did that, the Masters of the Air still had no ratings.  @GrimReaper's thought of it being too new for OMDB to have IMDB ratings has merit since refreshing other older series that had no ratings populated them.

What exactly did you do?

 Did you compare to what omdb and tvdb have? Do either of them have a rating for it?

[BillOatman 596]

3 minutes ago, Luke said:

What exactly did you do?

 Did you compare to what omdb and tvdb have? Do either of them have a rating for it?

I enabled OMDB for that library as a metadata source, and refreshed metadata for Masters of the Air and a couple other series that had no ratings showing.  The older series had ratings populated, Masters of the Air still did not.  As per @GrimReaper's post Masters of the Air has no ratings in OMDB yet.

TVDB has no ratings.  OMDB has no rating for that series yet.  

Is there a way to use IMDB for TV series that I am not seeing?  Seems IMDB carries TV series as well.

Edited January 28, 2024 by BillOatman

[GrimReaper 4740]

6 minutes ago, BillOatman said:

Is there a way to use IMDB for TV series that I am not seeing?

Unless you use some 3rd-party/external solution - no other way than what you have currently enabled.

[Luke 42078]

Moviedb has their own ratings.

[GrimReaper 4740]

Just now, Luke said:

Moviedb has their own ratings.

As I understood OP, this is about IMDB ratings?

1 hour ago, BillOatman said:

IMDB has a rating.

13 minutes ago, BillOatman said:

Is there a way to use IMDB for TV series

 

[BillOatman 596]

I just added a feature request to be able to use IMDB for TV Series, thanks guys.

[BillOatman 596]

7 minutes ago, Luke said:

Moviedb has their own ratings.

Yup, I enabled that as a source as well and Emby did find a rating.

Edited January 28, 2024 by BillOatman

[BillOatman 596]

6 minutes ago, GrimReaper said:

As I understood OP, this is about IMDB ratings?

 

That would be my preference, but with the other sources having ratings available fills that need, thanks.

[GrimReaper 4740]

1 minute ago, BillOatman said:

That would be my preference, but with the other sources having ratings available fills that need, thanks.

Cool, then just keep in mind that it's dependent of your preferred meta-providers order, i.e. if all meta-fetchers enabled as in:

1 hour ago, BillOatman said:

and both TMDB retrurning their rating and OMDB returning IMDB rating, you'll get TMDB rating, not IMDB rating under Community Rating. Maybe you'd want to move OMDB one place up, so availability basically goes IMDB>TMDB and not vice-versa.

[AJAYSWebDesign 5]

Just to add to this post.... EMBY is basically using the ratings from themoviedb (TMDB)..... Most of us check on ratings (for TV Shows at least) from IMDB. The ratings can be wildly different btwn the 2, with the major reason being the sample size or number of 'votes'. For example... The TV show "Your Friends and Neighbors" has a rating on TMDB of 6.7, whilst IMDB has a rating of 7.8.... The sample size on TMDB is just 18.... whilst IMDB has a sample size of 2,600..... I think EMBY developers should be taking note of this and either switch to IMDB or scrap the ratings altogether as TMDB is just poor to misleading......

[Luke 42078]

1 hour ago, AJAYSWebDesign said:

Just to add to this post.... EMBY is basically using the ratings from themoviedb (TMDB)..... Most of us check on ratings (for TV Shows at least) from IMDB. The ratings can be wildly different btwn the 2, with the major reason being the sample size or number of 'votes'. For example... The TV show "Your Friends and Neighbors" has a rating on TMDB of 6.7, whilst IMDB has a rating of 7.8.... The sample size on TMDB is just 18.... whilst IMDB has a sample size of 2,600..... I think EMBY developers should be taking note of this and either switch to IMDB or scrap the ratings altogether as TMDB is just poor to misleading......

Hi, Imdb does not have a freely available api.