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Riddler84
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1 hour ago, Happy2Play said:

I would say off topics as there is no source for trailers that off different languages in reference to the Trailers plugin. 

OP was complaining about the language too, so why is it off-topic?

1 hour ago, Happy2Play said:

Since the Trailers plugin is being rewritten to use YouTube Trailers there maybe more options to come but have no idea how the new plugin will work or how YouTube controls this.

So you're saying, they're not using TMDB to find like upcoming movies and grabbing the YouTube links from there? How would it work getting the trailers directly from YouTube, without any curated database that is providing the links and the info about upcoming movies?
And wasn't it always using YouTube videos? If not, what did it use before?

1 hour ago, Happy2Play said:

As for TMDB api you should be getting what ever language they have assign in your media queries per your set language.

It is not. I have set every language setting to German, but all the trailers are in English. And the quality is also really, really bad, which makes it unusable anyway.
The funny thing is, it loads the German metadata, like titles and descriptions for the movies, but the trailer itself is always English.

1 hour ago, Happy2Play said:

But there are really NO FREE Trailer Sources out there so this really creates a issue for the Trailers Plugin and why they are working on using YouTube. 

Yes, that's true, unfortunately. As long as there's no one who is building such a service, we only have youtube, dailymotion or vimeo etc. I guess we have to live with some channel branding then. Links can be retrieved via TMDB or OMDB.
Plex is using some paid service to get trailers in different languages at least for movies. For TV shows, they're always English. I don't know where they get them, though.

Happy2Play
Posted (edited)
24 minutes ago, Riddler84 said:

So you're saying, they're not using TMDB to find like upcoming movies and grabbing the YouTube links from there?

Trailers have never come from TMDB and has alway come from some website just like now.  TMDB does not have trailers either, but they do have links to YouTube.

24 minutes ago, Riddler84 said:

And wasn't it always using YouTube videos?

No as it is a violation of YouTubes TOS to play trailers outside of their dedicated app so some clients will have issues like the Roku.

But previously Apple Trailers where used for a while but sources are dewindling and may end out with ad riddled YouTube Trailers depending on what Emby works out with them.

24 minutes ago, Riddler84 said:

It is not. I have set every language setting to German, but all the trailers are in English. And the quality is also really, really bad, which makes it unusable anyway.
The funny thing is, it loads the German metadata, like titles and descriptions for the movies, but the trailer itself is always English.

Movie trailers and IE the Trailers plugin are two totally different things and the trailers plugin has never had a language options as no provider has ever offered one.  

But I can only guess without testing your actual movies have foreign trailer per TMDB but still has nothing to do with Trailers plugin.

Example Dune Part Two I just changed to German/Germany and Refreshed Metadata and got the German trailer and metadata, but still this has absolutely nothing to do with Trailers plugin.  As Media trailers are independent of the plugin.

Guess you mean the Trailer Source as Emby gets metadata from providers but the media is currently coming from something like www.metatube.com and has nothing to do with metadata provider languages.

 

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Riddler84
Posted

To be clear, I was only ever talking about the trailer plugin, because that's, what this topic is about. In your answers, it seems like you're mixing this together.

22 hours ago, Happy2Play said:

Trailers have never come from TMDB and has alway come from some website just like now.  TMDB does not have trailers either, but they do have links to YouTube.

I never said TMDB would provide trailers. I specifically said, you can grab the YouTube links via TMDB, because they have lists for what's popular right now or what is coming in the next months. And I'm curious what you're talking about, when you say that trailers have never come from TMDB? Because the normal trailers of items inside my library are definitely the ones that you can find via TMDB. If you pause the trailer, you can even see the YouTube logo and all the other overlay stuff, including the video title, because this is the YT video embedded into the Emby player. And the links of these videos are obtained via TMDB. That's for sure.

I just assumed the trailer plugin would do the same thing. I haven't installed it right now, so I can't check. But I guess not, because the normal trailers are having a decent quality, while the trailers from the plugin are looking like trash.

23 hours ago, Happy2Play said:

No as it is a violation of YouTubes TOS to play trailers outside of their dedicated app so some clients will have issues like the Roku.

How can it be against their TOS using their own embedding feature to play videos outside of YouTube? As I said above, Emby is already doing it. Don't know about that Roku situation. What issues does it have?

23 hours ago, Happy2Play said:

But previously Apple Trailers where used for a while

Didn't know Apple Trailers ever had a public API.

23 hours ago, Happy2Play said:

and the trailers plugin has never had a language options as no provider has ever offered one.

That's the whole point of my initial comment. But that raises the question, if they don't use TMDB for the trailers plugin, then why not? The trailer plugin creates a library and filling it with movie items, just like the other libraries. The only difference is, that the item type is "trailer" and there is no physical video file behind. These items get their metadata from TMDB, therefore they are localized for every language. Why not using the same trailer source as is used for all the other items and just embed the YouTube videos from TMDB?

Or does it have something to do with the cinema intros feature? Does it require local video files or something? Is the trailer plugin even downloading all the trailers onto the server or does it stream them in?

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How can it be against their TOS using their own embedding feature to play videos outside of YouTube? As I said above, Emby is already doing it. Don't know about that Roku situation. What issues does it have?

It's not against their TOS to use their embedding feature, so we are doing that whenever possible.

It is against their TOS to try and extract the raw video urls to do things like download the files or avoid seeing ads.

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