preserving cover change and add date, when upgrading

[DonVito 1]

Hi

I'm looking for the right settings, maybe someone has some tipps to change this behaviour in emby.

I use radarr to upgrade quality of some existing movies. Upgrading also renames the filenames. This causes the movies to be considered as new in emby. My manually modified covers are gone, and the movie appears in the library as "newly added" at the top of the list. Of course, this is correct behaviour and I understand this. But I'd like it to be different.

I sort movies in emby by "newly added" (feels right for me) and want old movies that have been upgraded to stay where they were (at the bottom of the library) and also the cover should persist.

Is it possible to achieve this in any way? Thank you in advance.

Best,
Don

 

 

[GrimReaper 4744]

18 minutes ago, DonVito said:

I sort movies in emby by "newly added" (feels right for me) and want old movies that have been upgraded to stay where they were (at the bottom of the library) and also the cover should persist.

Unless using some 3-rd party solution, the closest you can come to that in Emby is by TimeLord (premium) plugin, which overwrites Date added with Release date (and that change is irrevocable unless manually amended or full metadata refresh).

As for covers, what naming convention you're using for your artwork? 

Edit: Looks like that's Radarr issue, removing all files/artwork in the folder on upgrade and Emby just downloading it again. Related topic:

 

Edited December 4, 2023 by GrimReaper
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[Neminem 1519]

There is an option in Radarr to set release date, as file creation date,

When importing movies.

I believe that option is under media management settings in radarr.

And yes, radarr is deleting files, when upgrading. 

[DonVito 1]

7 hours ago, GrimReaper said:

As for covers, what naming convention you're using for your artwork? 

The option "Save artwork into media folders" was not even active.  So covers were stored in the DB (I guess).

I have now activated this option and made an upgrade. The previously changed cover was preserved - problem solved.

7 hours ago, GrimReaper said:

Edit: Looks like that's Radarr issue, removing all files/artwork in the folder on upgrade and Emby just downloading it again. Related topic:

Thanks for the hint. The issue has been fixed in the meantime. The file "poster.jpg" will be preserved when upgrading.

7 hours ago, jaycedk said:

There is an option in Radarr to set release date, as file creation date,

Probably this one:

But that doesn't help in my case. Ideal for my use case would be a kind of "first import in emby" date that is tied to a movie (IMDb-ID) and not "file added" dates.

An NFO per movie, not per file, would help. But that's not how NFO works in this case, is it?

Or did I miss or misunderstand something?

Thank you for your help.

[GrimReaper 4744]

1 minute ago, DonVito said:

Ideal for my use case would be a kind of "first import in emby" date that is tied to a movie (IMDb-ID

Unfortunately there's no such feature in Emby. 

2 minutes ago, DonVito said:

An NFO per movie, not per file, would help. But that's not how NFO works in this case, is it?

No, NFOs are tied to filenames, and since you stated:

8 hours ago, DonVito said:

Upgrading also renames the filenames

existing NFO don't come into play when upgraded version is imported. 

[Neminem 1519]

There are 2 options in Emby

 

And by using "Use file creation date" in combination with Radarr setting for "Change File Date" either "In cinemas" or "Physical" 

Then it will not interfere with your newly added, since thats determind by file creation date.

8 hours ago, DonVito said:

and the movie appears in the library as "newly added" at the top of the list. Of course, this is correct behaviour and I understand this. But I'd like it to be different.

But give it a go, and update a movie with the settings I have described.

And see if you like it.

If not change it back

[Luke 42081]

1 hour ago, GrimReaper said:

Unfortunately there's no such feature in Emby. 

No, NFOs are tied to filenames, and since you stated:

existing NFO don't come into play when upgraded version is imported. 

Actually it does, if it's the same file name.

[Neminem 1519]

Well in any case nfo files are deletet by Radarr during import of upgrades.

[GrimReaper 4744]

5 hours ago, Luke said:

Actually it does, if it's the same file name.

It is not same filename, clearly stated by the OP:

15 hours ago, DonVito said:

I use radarr to upgrade quality of some existing movies. Upgrading also renames the filenames.

So the feature requested:

7 hours ago, DonVito said:

Ideal for my use case would be a kind of "first import in emby" date that is tied to a movie (IMDb-ID) and not "file added" dates.

doesn't apply/exist, as it's still tied to a filename/import date (either scanned or created)/Date added NFO tag. 

But as @jaycedksaid:

5 hours ago, jaycedk said:

in any case nfo files are deletet by Radarr during import of upgrades.

that topic is moot anyway, for this particular scenario. 

Edited December 4, 2023 by GrimReaper

[DonVito 1]

Hey guys, thank you again for your ideas.

On 12/4/2023 at 5:51 PM, jaycedk said:

But give it a go, and update a movie with the settings I have described.

Because radarr then defines the change date, it makes perfect sense what you're saying. I'm also sure it works. But not in my particular scenario.

On 12/5/2023 at 12:40 AM, GrimReaper said:

It is not same filename, clearly stated by the OP:

Exactly. For example:

Casablanca (1943) [WEBDL-1080p].mkv
Casablanca (1943) [Bluray-1080p].mkv

Here the "added date" would also apply and the movie would then appear at the top of the list as newly added.

If I sorted the movie list by "release date", the date would be the same - so old movies would be replaced in the same place and not moved up in the list.

Maybe this could also be easily solved in radarr with a custom script. I have to find out.