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arrbee99
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Any publicity is good publicity. Oh, hang on...

RanmaCanada
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Not your hard drives, not your media.  Been saying this for years.  It's why I laugh at people who say "I'll just stream it from some site".  I know discussion of piracy is a grey topic here, but when Disney took out Streamango and Openload, where 70+% of the worlds pirated media was stored, there was no hydra head to replace them.  People need to start building their own servers with their own media that they want to watch, as the powers that be have decided that purchasing something in digital format is no longer ownership, so that would mean that digital piracy is no longer theft.  This won't be the last time that this happens and it is not the first time either.

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10 hours ago, RanmaCanada said:

as the powers that be have decided that purchasing something in digital format is no longer ownership

It never has been...  Since the dawn of software (which is what digital media is classified as) you have never actually owned any of it (unless you wrote it).  Every purchase you ever made was for a limited license of use of said software.  

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Gilgamesh_48
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1 hour ago, ebr said:

It never has been...  Since the dawn of software (which is what digital media is classified as) you have never actually owned any of it (unless you wrote it).  Every purchase you ever made was for a limited license of use of said software.  

That is quite true. In fact if we really examine the stuff, digital or real,  that we "think" we own we would find out that we factually own very little of what we thing we do.
In fact even our fully paid for homes are not really ours. (See Eminent domain) 
If you read the details of much of what you think you own you will find that you really only own the "right to use" such and there are many things that you are violating the law if you modify them at all. 

Ownership is mostly an illusion.

It should be noted that you do not even "own" software you write. If you really read the licensing agreements it is clear but well hidden that you do not really "own" the code you write with most systems.

But the other side is enforcement and that is where we must rely. It is nearly impossible to actually enforce most of the "ownership" laws. It is usually a case of whoever has the most money to spend wins.

RanmaCanada
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3 hours ago, ebr said:

It never has been...  Since the dawn of software (which is what digital media is classified as) you have never actually owned any of it (unless you wrote it).  Every purchase you ever made was for a limited license of use of said software.  

I'm old enough to remember the Commodore 64 days (yes I'm ancient), and you actually did own the software back then.  

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31 minutes ago, RanmaCanada said:

I'm old enough to remember the Commodore 64 days (yes I'm ancient), and you actually did own the software back then.  

Sorry, but I don't believe that ever could have been the case.  I had a TRS-80 but both of those systems were long after "software" and its accompanying license agreements were created.

 

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Gilgamesh_48
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19 minutes ago, ebr said:

Sorry, but I don't believe that ever could have been the case.  I had a TRS-80 but both of those systems were long after "software" and its accompanying license agreements were created.

 

I was living in Dallas when the TRS-80 came out. I drove to FT. Worth (the Radio Shack headquarters at the time) and bought a TRS-80 with 64 K ram and no hard drive and no floppy drive. (It used a cassette player for storage.) Even then the licenses read that you had the right to use the software but it did not grant ownership. ) I REALLY wish I had boxed up that beast when I replaced it. It would be worth a LOT of money now.

In fact I had the "opportunity" to read many IBM licenses for mainframes and those also granted "use" licenses but not ownership. I do not remember even one piece of computer software or hardware where "ownership" was granted in any official document. And, like I said earlier, the complier licenses explicitly gave the primary company the rights to any software compiled using the software. Side note: Initially those licenses stood up in court but several years later, the ownership was determined to be the writer(s) of the code which is why some royalties from that era continue to today. I still receive about $17.00 a month for some COBOL code that is still running on some financial entity's mainframe. And, yes, there is a LOT of very important code created using COBOL that is still running some very important financial programs.

To be honest I always think of and treat software I buy as if I own it but I recognize that is nothing but an illusion. I even remove the "tags" from cushions and pillows. I guess I could be raided at any time. :D 

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