Sort Movies by Release Date and Apply to all

[GrimReaper 4739]

1 hour ago, speechles said:

The selected sort is sticking

Then we obviously have very different understanding of OP's issue. 

On 10/21/2023 at 3:55 PM, Daniel1966 said:

Then there is the issue that when signing out of Emby and back in, it reverts to the default sort order (by filename).

I could get past having to manually change the sorting for dozens of folders, but not if it's going to get reverted next time Emby restarts....

 

On 10/21/2023 at 4:23 PM, GrimReaper said:

That should generally not happen on sign out/sign in, which client app? 

 

17 hours ago, Daniel1966 said:

The only issue I am having is that the Sort By keeps reverting to sorting by Filename.

Yesterday I spent a long time setting all the Sort By to Release Date, and today they are all back to Filename.

 

15 hours ago, Daniel1966 said:

I do all the setup and configuring on PC. 

I use Folder View.

I go into each folder (because there is no way to set all the folders at once) and set the Sort By to Release Date.

The next day, they are all back to being sorted by File Name.

I just want the folders sorted by Release date and for it to stick.

 

[speechles 2055]

Just now, GrimReaper said:

Then we obviously have very different understanding of OP's issue.

Indeed we do. You tried. I think he will get the gist of what I typed.

[GrimReaper 4739]

1 hour ago, speechles said:

Indeed we do. You tried. I think he will get the gist of what I typed.

I'm honestly not following you. What does default sort order have to do with this? Nothing (unless selection cleared by browser and reverting to default). 

15 hours ago, Daniel1966 said:

I do all the setup and configuring on PC. 

I use Folder View.

I go into each folder (because there is no way to set all the folders at once) and set the Sort By to Release Date.

The next day, they are all back to being sorted by File Name.

I just want the folders sorted by Release date and for it to stick.

 

Edited October 27, 2023 by GrimReaper

[GrimReaper 4739]

1 hour ago, speechles said:

Having the folder tab default to something other than filename is what they want. That feature request thread I gave above is asking for the same thing.

And OP was advised that he can lend support to that same topic in the very first reply to his post. There's two parts/two related issues in his opening post: no default sort for multiple folders + selected sort not sticking. 

Edited October 27, 2023 by GrimReaper

[speechles 2055]

@GrimReaper

 

 

I just changed the sort to release date at the TOP level of one of the movie libraries. Then I press HOME and exit the Roku app.

 

When I start the app I go right back to that same movie folder.

 

And the sort method is as I have left it.

 

The issue is when you are logged in as a user _AND_ If  you change any sort/options on this screen it will affect all the other apps. Perhaps something is changing this value for him like using the web app might. If he was strictly using the Roku app it doesn't forget. The screens above are from the BETA version of the Roku app which is in testing and will be published soon. So perhaps there was a bug in the setting that isn't there now in the BETA?

All I do know is that this works as intended on the Roku. If something is messing with the default it is best for the OP to reply. It seems silly for me and you to have a conversation in this thread when neither of us have the issue.

Edited October 27, 2023 by speechles

[GrimReaper 4739]

1 hour ago, speechles said:

GrimReaperI am trying to get you to stop posting in this thread and confusing the fellow

If anyone, you're confusing him. I'm actively trying to get second part of his issue solved - at least PC related, since he's posted under General/Windows, not Roku forum. 

Edited October 27, 2023 by GrimReaper

[speechles 2055]

@GrimReaper The no default sort is a huge pain in the ass just like the missing "Clear filters" button is. Now that the clear filters button has been added perhaps there is hope for the deault sort. *crosses fingers*

Edited October 27, 2023 by speechles

[speechles 2055]

13 minutes ago, GrimReaper said:

If anyone, you're confusing him. I'm actively trying to get second part of his issue solved - at least PC related, since he's posted under General/Windows, not Roku fourum. 

He is new. His Emby server likely uses Windows. That would make it Windows related. He mentions specifically the Roku TV. At that point here I am to explain how that works. I am here to solve the Roku issue.

@Daniel1966Apologies if there was any confusion. Are you having the same problem on both the web app and the Roku? Or is this issue just happening on your Roku TV? If it is just happening on the Roku TV we might just need to get an app update out. The new BETA that we are testing does not appear to lose/forget the sort order with folders. But if the web app appears to lose them for you that would cause the issue on the Roku. The sort order is tied to your user. If the folder sort is resetting on the web app it would also reset it on the Roku. Since the Roku is asking the web app for these sort orders. That might be what is happening is something is causing the server to forget these for all your apps such as when you enter the folder view on the web app and see it reset. Then you go to the Roku and it reset there too. The Roku didn't forget. What happens is the web app reset the sort to default and the Roku asked the web app for the sort order and that is what it got. Hope you understand.

Edited October 27, 2023 by speechles

[GrimReaper 4739]

Whatever you wanted to say with that. It still doesn't solve the issue of his sort order not sticking upon selection. And we can go in circles all day long. 

Edit: Since above post was edited. 

Edited October 27, 2023 by GrimReaper
Edit for edit

[speechles 2055]

6 minutes ago, GrimReaper said:

Whatever you wanted to say with that. It still doesn't solve the issue of his sort order not sticking upon selection. And we can go in circles all day long. 

Dude... The only one going in circles is you. I am trying to figure out how this is even possible what he is telling us. I will leave you to chase your tail. Time for me to code. 8^)

Edited October 27, 2023 by speechles

[GrimReaper 4739]

1 hour ago, speechles said:

Dude... The only one going in circles is you. I am trying to figure out how this is even possible what he is telling us.

"Dude". That's what both @pwhodgesand myself were trying too. OP was very particular about sequence of events:

16 hours ago, Daniel1966 said:

I do all the setup and configuring on PC. 

I use Folder View.

I go into each folder (because there is no way to set all the folders at once) and set the Sort By to Release Date.

The next day, they are all back to being sorted by File Name.

I just want the folders sorted by Release date and for it to stick.

Most viable explanation would be his Web app selection was being lost/reset to default, hence:

3 hours ago, GrimReaper said:

If you're using Web app, either your browser is clearing browsing data/cookies or some add-on is; review your browser Privacy settings and/or any extension that might be doing that. 

And Roku would honor/inherit that. So no-one is chasing tail but trying to find out if that's the case or to investigate further. Good luck on coding. 

[pwhodges 2012]

1 hour ago, GrimReaper said:

In my quick test, sort by Date Added in Folders survives both browse-out and full browser restart under 4.7.14.0. in both Edge and Chromium. 

Edit: Ditto for sort by Release Date. 

Hmm - curious.  I am using Opera, and do not clear the cache automatically. 

Just tried Firefox - not preserved in that either.

I wonder what's different on my system, then...  I'm using beta server, so maybe that's it.

Paul

Edited October 27, 2023 by pwhodges

[speechles 2055]

The fact the server does not let you set a default sort order is directly responsible for this thread. If the server were to offer default sort order, the OP would've set "Release Date" as default and would have never came here to post this issue. We would not have had this conversation. It is weird the way tiny details matter in the scheme of larger things.

Instead the fact you cannot set a default, you notice how glaringly important that could be, when it is so easy for other apps to reset this value. Having a default sort order for libraries set when creating the library would solve this.

[GrimReaper 4739]

 

1 hour ago, pwhodges said:

Hmm - curious.  I am using Opera, and do not clear the cache automatically. 

Just tried Firefox - not preserved in that either.

I wonder what's different on my system, then...

Paul

And cookies & site data? 

Edited October 27, 2023 by GrimReaper

[GrimReaper 4739]

1 hour ago, speechles said:

The fact the server does not let you set a default sort order is directly responsible for this thread. If the server were to offer default sort order, the OP would've set "Release Date" as default and would have never came here to post this issue. We would not have had this conversation. It is weird the way tiny details matter in the scheme of larger things.

Instead the fact you cannot set a default, you notice how glaringly important that could be, when it is so easy for other apps to reset this value. Having a default sort order for libraries set when creating the library would solve this.

Agree, but that does not solve imminent problem - it only would, if/when implemented. 

[pwhodges 2012]

27 minutes ago, GrimReaper said:

And cookies? 

My computer loves cookies!  Well, to be fair, I reject third-party/cross-site cookies (default in both Opera and Firefox, I think).

Paul

[GrimReaper 4739]

1 hour ago, pwhodges said:

My computer loves cookies!  Well, to be fair, I reject third-party/cross-site cookies (default in both Opera and Firefox, I think).

Paul

Spun my (quite) old Firefox instance (109.0 64-bit), Sort by Release date sticks both on Sign Out/Sign In and FF restart, cannot make it not to stick. Manually cleared Cookies & Site data under Privacy & Security settings (both Cookies and Site Data and Cached web content ticked), Sort order reset to default (File Name), even without Signing Out or closing FF. 

Edited October 27, 2023 by GrimReaper

[Daniel1966 6]

2 hours ago, speechles said:

It does not revert. When you change the sort order inside a folder level it will remember it for that level. But the other folder levels can have their own sort orders.

But that's what I am reporting here.  I have gone into every folder and every sub-folder and changed the sort to Release Date, and the next day they are all back to Filename.

It was suggested that this was a browser issue and I have looked at my browser settings and don't see any setting that would delete data or cookies as suggested.

 

[GrimReaper 4739]

1 hour ago, Daniel1966 said:

It was suggested that this was a browser issue and I have looked at my browser settings and don't see any setting that would delete data or cookies as suggested.

Which browser you're using? 

[Daniel1966 6]

Chrome.  

But does the browser I use on my on PC affect how things show up on the RokuTV?

Edited October 27, 2023 by Daniel1966

[GrimReaper 4739]

1 hour ago, Daniel1966 said:

Chrome

You would wan't to make sure that this option is unticked under Chrome settings>Privacy and security. 

Additionally, you might have some browser extension doing it instead, so you can either review each Privacy/Ad-blocking/Tracking blocking extension you have or simply disable them all, restart Chrome and if selection does stick, enable them back one by one until you find the culprit. 

[GrimReaper 4739]

1 hour ago, Daniel1966 said:

But does the browser I use on my on PC affect how things show up on the RokuTV?

Yes, as @speechlesexplained above for Roku client app, same/similar goes for most of the other client apps: some settings/changes you make in your Web app get honored/inherited by all of them, some on few of them, and some client apps have exclusively their own settings. 

Edited October 27, 2023 by GrimReaper

[Daniel1966 6]

Thank you.   This seems correct and I will employ this fix right away and repost back if it fixed the problem.

[Daniel1966 6]

Seems to be working.  Fingers crossed.

Now I have to wonder, if somehow the cookie/site data gets deleted by Chrome, I will have to do all the sorting all over.

Is there a way to back up the cookie/site data in case this happens?

[GrimReaper 4739]

1 hour ago, Daniel1966 said:

Seems to be working.  Fingers crossed.

Nice, glad we got you sorted.

1 hour ago, Daniel1966 said:

Now I have to wonder, if somehow the cookie/site data gets deleted by Chrome, I will have to do all the sorting all over.

Is there a way to back up the cookie/site data in case this happens?

I know there are few browser extensions for backing-up cookies - do those include site data I honestly wouldn't know, try to read through few of those descriptions, you might find that info.