Manage access for kids, problems with age rating and library setup

[ThaMattie 1]

Hi,

I currently have a few folders and libraries set up:

Library	Content Type	Folder	Adult user	Kids user
Movies	movies	movies	X
Shows	shows	shows	X
Animation	mixed	animation	X	X
Kids	mixed	kids		X

The intention is for the kids to see everything in "Kids", but only up until age 9 in animation.

The parental control is per user, so I've set it to NL-9 and I blocked all items with no or unrecognized rating information.

Now an item in kids is mpaa 0+ (in tvshow.nfo) and it doesn't show up.

Where is the rating retrieved from? I have tvdb as first option for meta data, but can't find the age rating there. Should 0+ not be recognized as ALL ages?

Is there another way to achieve what I want? Age restriction per library?

I also looked into tags, but there is no way to automatically tag everything added to the kids library, nor can I combine age rating with tags.

 

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[GrimReaper 4740]

1 hour ago, ThaMattie said:

Now an item in kids is mpaa 0+ (in tvshow.nfo) and it doesn't show up.

 

1 hour ago, ThaMattie said:

The parental control is per user, so I've set it to NL-9 and I blocked all items with no or unrecognized rating information.

Which country rating would 0+ be? It is likely not recognized hence being blocked/not shown as per your settings. 

[ThaMattie 1]

Well, I was assuming it was blocked because of my unrecognized settings, but I have no clue where 0+ comes from.

Its a Dutch TV show and I have the rating set to Dutch standard

[Luke 42079]

Do you have other fetchers enabled? It could be coming from those if tvdb doesn’t have a rating.

[ThaMattie 1]

I have them all on, but I think I had it on default the first time I scanned (so without TheMovieDb for Series and Episodes):

Here is the tvshow.nfo:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="yes"?>

<tvshow>

  <plot><![CDATA[Alfred Jodocus Kwak wordt geboren als zoon van Johan Sebastiaan Kwak en Anna van de Polder. Vlak na zijn geboorte verliest Alfred zijn ouders en zijn broertjes en zusjes, die worden overreden door een grote auto, wanneer zij vanwege projectontwikkeling de polder waarin zij leefden hebben moeten ontvluchten. Henk de Mol, een goede vriend van de familie Kwak, ontfermt zich over de kleine, gele eend. Onder toezicht van zijn adoptievader groeit Alfred op in een woonklomp in Groot Waterland. Daarbij beleeft hij een groot aantal avonturen.]]></plot>

  <outline><![CDATA[Alfred Jodocus Kwak wordt geboren als zoon van Johan Sebastiaan Kwak en Anna van de Polder. Vlak na zijn geboorte verliest Alfred zijn ouders en zijn broertjes en zusjes, die worden overreden door een grote auto, wanneer zij vanwege projectontwikkeling de polder waarin zij leefden hebben moeten ontvluchten. Henk de Mol, een goede vriend van de familie Kwak, ontfermt zich over de kleine, gele eend. Onder toezicht van zijn adoptievader groeit Alfred op in een woonklomp in Groot Waterland. Daarbij beleeft hij een groot aantal avonturen.]]></outline>

  <lockdata>false</lockdata>

  <dateadded>2023-08-23 13:49:50</dateadded>

  <title>Alfred J. Kwak</title>

  <originaltitle>Alfred J. Kwak</originaltitle>

  <actor>

    <name>Herman van Veen</name>

    <type>Actor</type>

    <tvdbid>494876</tvdbid>

    <tmdbid>114383</tmdbid>

  </actor>

  <actor>

    <name>Ryan van den Akker</name>

    <role>Alfred Jodocus Kwak</role>

    <type>Actor</type>

    <tvdbid>8019478</tvdbid>

    <tmdbid>211276</tmdbid>

  </actor>

  <actor>

    <name>Frits Lambrechts</name>

    <role>Henk de Mol</role>

    <type>Actor</type>

    <tvdbid>477230</tvdbid>

    <tmdbid>88043</tmdbid>

  </actor>

  <actor>

    <name>Johnny Kraaykamp jr.</name>

    <role>Dolf de Kraai</role>

    <type>Actor</type>

    <tvdbid>7880698</tvdbid>

  </actor>

  <actor>

    <name>Winnie Wana</name>

    <role>Winnie Wana</role>

    <type>Actor</type>

    <tvdbid>8063398</tvdbid>

  </actor>

  <rating>7.8</rating>

  <year>1989</year>

  <sorttitle>Alfred J. Kwak</sorttitle>

  <mpaa>0+</mpaa>

  <imdb_id>tt0098737</imdb_id>

  <tmdbid>1887</tmdbid>

  <premiered>1989-04-03</premiered>

  <releasedate>1989-04-03</releasedate>

  <enddate>1990-04-02</enddate>

  <runtime>25</runtime>

  <genre>Family</genre>

  <genre>Drama</genre>

  <genre>Children</genre>

  <genre>Animation</genre>

  <genre>Adventure</genre>

  <studio>TV Tokyo</studio>

  <tvrageid>15140</tvrageid>

  <uniqueid type="tvdb">80686</uniqueid>

  <tvdbid>80686</tvdbid>

  <uniqueid type="official website">https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Jodocus_Kwak</uniqueid>

  <uniqueid type="imdb">tt0098737</uniqueid>

  <uniqueid type="tmdb">1887</uniqueid>

  <uniqueid type="tvrage">15140</uniqueid>

  <episodeguide>{"tvdb":"80686","official website":"https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/alfred_jodocus_kwak","imdb":"tt0098737","tmdb":"1887","tvrage":"15140"}</episodeguide>

  <id>80686</id>

  <season>-1</season>

  <episode>-1</episode>

  <displayorder>aired</displayorder>

  <status>Ended</status>

</tvshow>

 

[GrimReaper 4740]

I would replace all instances of "0+" with "AL" in your NFOs; you can easily do it in batch with some text editor, like Notepad++ Find in Files:

 

Scan media library afterwards.

[ThaMattie 1]

True, but I'm an automation kinda guy , I wouldn't want to have to check this each time I dump something in the Kids folder, nor have to redo this whenever I do a metadata refresh (I have seen it changed back after a manual edit).

Edited August 28, 2023 by ThaMattie

[GrimReaper 4740]

Then it's up to the Devs to ensure "0+" is recognized under TV show ratings.

[ThaMattie 1]

That would be nice, or an "always show this folder" option...

This was only a test with the first show I threw in there, so I don't know if there are any others that aren't recognized, like 6+ or 12+ or something

Edited August 28, 2023 by ThaMattie

[ebr 16184]

Just now, ThaMattie said:

or an "always show this folder" option

Have you seen Folder Based Access Control ?

[ThaMattie 1]

yes, that is what I am doing, however, the "Animation" folder is shared between the adults and the kids, but they contain animations that are not suited for children, hence adding the parental age control as well.

I don't want a 3rd folder that says "animations for kids and adults", because as the kids get older, I just want to up the age restriction, instead of move stuff from the "adult" to the "adult and kid" folder...

[Painkiller88 250]

5 hours ago, ThaMattie said:

True, but I'm an automation kinda guy , I wouldn't want to have to check this each time I dump something in the Kids folder, nor have to redo this whenever I do a metadata refresh (I have seen it changed back after a manual edit).

You can add a trigger to the emby db, to automatically replace 0+ rating to whatever you need.
This would be a trigger in the db and gets triggered automatically when movies are added and is replacing all existing movies with a 0+ rating.

[ThaMattie 1]

8 minutes ago, Painkiller8818 said:

You can add a trigger to the emby db, to automatically replace 0+ rating to whatever you need.
This would be a trigger in the db and gets triggered automatically when movies are added and is replacing all existing movies with a 0+ rating.

I'm using a docker based Emby install and have meta data stored with the media in nfo files.
Also, like I said, I've only tested a few shows so far, so I don't know if there are any other mismatches.

How does Emby handle rating in different countries? I looked here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_picture_content_rating_system

0+ is used in Russia and Taiwan, should Emby make the match to the Dutch system?

Another show has TV-Y7 (USA rating), and that one is recognized correctly.

[Painkiller88 250]

1 minute ago, ThaMattie said:

I'm using a docker based Emby install and have meta data stored with the media in nfo files.
Also, like I said, I've only tested a few shows so far, so I don't know if there are any other mismatches.

How does Emby handle rating in different countries? I looked here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_picture_content_rating_system

0+ is used in Russia and Taiwan, should Emby make the match to the Dutch system?

Another show has TV-Y7 (USA rating), and that one is recognized correctly.

i am from austria, so we use the german FSK rating, I also have all my infos in NFO files but if i add a new movie or a show sometimes it is not taking the correct rating, so i created a trigger in the emby database to update all wrong ratings and replace them with my FSK ratings.

Most movies and shows i get with correct rating, but if there are no german infos or whatever criterium it is to get them, i have other rating systems.

Sometimes i get movies with 12+ or something else, sometimes i get US ratings or whatever but this will be replaced automatically to my normal FSK rating.

So adding a trigger to your database will do the trick until the devs maybe improve it.

 

[Luke 42079]

I think we just need to add support for the 0+ rating, right, then it will no longer be unrecognized?

[ThaMattie 1]

3 hours ago, Luke said:

I think we just need to add support for the 0+ rating, right, then it will no longer be unrecognized?

I assume so, but like I said, only tested this one show so far, so no clue if any of the others will have an unrecognized rating...

Looking at Taiwan, it also has 6+, 12+, 15+ and 18+. Russia has 16+ instead of 15+ as well...

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_picture_content_rating_system

[Luke 42079]

Do you have any other unrecognized ratings in your system?

[ThaMattie 1]

Unfortunately I haven't had the time to continue with this, I will see if I can test some things over the weekend

[ThaMattie 1]

On 9/7/2023 at 10:14 PM, Luke said:

Do you have any other unrecognized ratings in your system?

I've checked a bunch more and found "6" and "15" that were not recognized as well.

There is also a bunch without rating, so in the end I'll either need to manually update some, or find another way to share libraries between adults and kids, without content that is not for their age yet.

I also don't know what to do about those that have a "NR" / "U" / "UR" rating, as they get overwritten with meta-data refreshes if I manually set them to what I find appropiate...

[GrimReaper 4740]

9 minutes ago, ThaMattie said:

I also don't know what to do about those that have a "NR" / "U" / "UR" rating, as they get overwritten with meta-data refreshes if I manually set them to what I find appropiate...

You want to make those edits in Custom rating field, as those will take precedence for parental control purposes, leave Parental rating field as-is (whatever comes after metadata refresh). 

Edited September 10, 2023 by GrimReaper

[ThaMattie 1]

2 hours ago, GrimReaper said:

You want to make those edits in Custom rating field, as those will take precedence for parental control purposes, leave Parental rating field as-is (whatever comes after metadata refresh). 

Thanks, this works pretty well for what I need, also to overrule any of the not recognized ones!

[Luke 42079]

5 hours ago, ThaMattie said:

as they get overwritten with meta-data refreshes if I manually set them to what I find appropiate...

Not if you lock the field, which happens automatically when you edit.

[ThaMattie 1]

yes I was editing the nfo files outside of Emby, so that's probably not the way I should have been doing it