Setting default language for dual audio media

[Gene_Starwind 4]

I have a ton of content that has two+ audio tracks in different languages. I use the Roku app as my playback interface while my server is a Win 10 Pro PC. Is there a way to set all playback to a specific default language, or do I have to do it with every single file, manually?

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[seanbuff 1316]

17 minutes ago, Gene_Starwind said:

Is there a way to set all playback to a specific default language, or do I have to do it with every single file, manually?

You can use your User 'Playback' settings to control this behaviour.

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[Gene_Starwind 4]

2 hours ago, seanbuff said:

You can use your User 'Playback' settings to control this behaviour.

OK, I've tried that, but it won't stick. 

When it says "Play default audio", does that mean the file's primary audio track? If so, that may be the problem. I have lots of files that have JPN and ENG, with JPN as the primary.

[seanbuff 1316]

3 minutes ago, Gene_Starwind said:

When it says "Play default audio", does that mean the file's primary audio track?

Yes that's exactly what it means. You can try unchecking that option and see if that gives you a better result. In theory it should always choose the ENG track if that is your "preferred audio language"

[Gene_Starwind 4]

2 minutes ago, seanbuff said:

Yes that's exactly what it means. You can try unchecking that option and see if that gives you a better result. In theory it should always choose the ENG track if that is your "preferred audio language"

I'll give it a try. Thanks.

[pwhodges 2012]

2 hours ago, Gene_Starwind said:

When it says "Play default audio", does that mean the file's primary audio track? 

In an MKV file (not sure about MP4) the streams have a flag which can mark them as default.  In this case is is quite possible for the second stream to be the one marked default.  As I understand it, Emby will use that flag if told to play the default track.

Paul

[Gene_Starwind 4]

41 minutes ago, pwhodges said:

In an MKV file (not sure about MP4) the streams have a flag which can mark them as default.  In this case is is quite possible for the second stream to be the one marked default.  As I understand it, Emby will use that flag if told to play the default track.

Paul

Well,  I had two different MKVs that had JPN as audio #1, but I want the ENG, which is #2. Emby was defaulting to JPN and I was having to set audio on each episode separately, hence the source of my question.

 

[pwhodges 2012]

But were the English tracks marked as default in the MKV files?  Just drop the files on the MKVToolNix GUI, and you'll see.

The "default" flag should trump the track sequence.

You can use MKVToolNix to reorder the tracks as well, if you prefer.  But for dealing with whole seasons and series of files, I use jMKVPropEdit for bulk editing of the flags without remuxing the files.

Paul

[Gene_Starwind 4]

2 hours ago, pwhodges said:

But were the English tracks marked as default in the MKV files?  Just drop the files on the MKVToolNix GUI, and you'll see.

The "default" flag should trump the track sequence.

You can use MKVToolNix to reorder the tracks as well, if you prefer.  But for dealing with whole seasons and series of files, I use jMKVPropEdit for bulk editing of the flags without remuxing the files.

Paul

Where do I find that ToolNix? I gather that MKVs are just like disc titles and the #1 audio is the default track. That's how they're coded.

 

[pwhodges 2012]

21 minutes ago, Gene_Starwind said:

Where do I find that ToolNix? I gather that MKVs are just like disc titles and the #1 audio is the default track. That's how they're coded.

MKVToolNix

MKV files can contain disc titles; that is not the same as being like them.  To be more precise, there are programs which can copy the contents of a disc track and save it as a file.  This may be in one of many video file formats (e.g. wmv, avi, mp4, mkv, ogm) of which MKV is the most flexible, and the commonest these days.  In an MKV file the first audio track is the default only if no other track is marked default; if you want another track to be default, you can specify that.

Between my last message here and this one, I have just marked a whole series to make the second audio track default, using the program I linked before.  I've loaded it into Emby, and the second audio track is Emby's default selection.

Paul

[Gene_Starwind 4]

9 minutes ago, pwhodges said:

MKVToolNix

MKV files can contain disc titles; that is not the same as being like them.  To be more precise, there are programs which can copy the contents of a disc track and save it as a file.  This may be in one of many video file formats (e.g. wmv, avi, mp4, mkv, ogm) of which MKV is the most flexible, and the commonest these days.  In an MKV file the first audio track is the default only if no other track is marked default; if you want another track to be default, you can specify that.

Between my last message here and this one, I have just marked a whole series to make the second audio track default, using the program I linked before.  I've loaded it into Emby, and the second audio track is Emby's default selection.

Paul

Anime?

[pwhodges 2012]

Sure - I have quite a large collection (around 350 series and 200 films - but I don't know what other people consider a large collection). 

The series I spoke of was Chikyū Shōjo Arujuna (Earth Girl/Maiden Arjuna), a 2001 show about a world destroyed by pollution, and a girl who has just died in an accident being given the power to save it with the promise that if she succeeds she will not die.  My copy has the English track first, but I prefer to use the Japanese these days - hence my changing the default.

Paul

[pwhodges 2012]

30 minutes ago, Gene_Starwind said:

Anime?

I imagine you deduced that from the anime quotes in my signature, as well as my avatar being one of the best-known anime characters of all...  

He's Shinji, taken from a sheet of settei (model reference sketches for the animators), on which he is looking askance at Kaworu.

Paul

[Gene_Starwind 4]

9 hours ago, pwhodges said:

I imagine you deduced that from the anime quotes in my signature, as well as my avatar being one of the best-known anime characters of all...  

He's Shinji, taken from a sheet of settei (model reference sketches for the animators), on which he is looking askance at Kaworu.

Paul

Dude, I lived in Japan for 7 years in the late 60s-early 70s....

I have over 6,000 discs, LD, DVD, and BD, plus 18TB of downloads....

[pwhodges 2012]

You beat me soundly, then

I sold my medical imaging software in Japan late 70s to early 80s, and two of my grandchildren are half Japanese.

Paul

Edited June 16, 2023 by pwhodges

[Gene_Starwind 4]

On 6/15/2023 at 9:11 AM, seanbuff said:

Yes that's exactly what it means. You can try unchecking that option and see if that gives you a better result. In theory it should always choose the ENG track if that is your "preferred audio language"

I tried it. It works, so far. Thanks.