Emby don't show Forced subtitles

[Przemek 70]

Hello, many movies/series have default set in Emby subtitles like that:

`Polish (Default Forced SUBRIP)`. 

Emby don't show them so I must everytime change to `Polish (SUBRIP)`.

Then it works.

Regards.

Edited June 13, 2023 by Przemek

[Luke 42077]

HI, why exactly do you think they don't show?

[Przemek 70]

2 minutes ago, Luke said:

HI, why exactly do you think they don't show?

I mean Enby don't display on screen during play subtitles that are named Forced SUBRIP.

[Luke 42077]

How exactly did you determine this? 

[Przemek 70]

Just now, Luke said:

How exactly did you determine this? 

What do You mean determine?

[Luke 42077]

In other words how did you test this?

[Przemek 70]

10 minutes ago, Luke said:

In other words how did you test this?

I play something where are that subtitles. I think that are Netflix movies/series.

As You can see on screenshots there are no subtitles when FORCED SUBRIP are chosen. That is exactly the same moment in episode. 

 

[Luke 42077]

1 minute ago, Przemek said:

I play something where are that subtitles. I think that are Netflix movies/series.

As You can see on screenshots there are no subtitles when FORCED SUBRIP are chosen. That is exactly the same moment in episode. 

 

At what point in the video did you check? Do you know what forced subtitles are?

[Przemek 70]

10 minutes ago, Luke said:

At what point in the video did you check? Do you know what forced subtitles are?

Don't understand why do You ask? That forced subtitles don't work and I don't want to see them as default in Emby. Is is possible or I have to choose working subtitles every time?

[Luke 42077]

7 minutes ago, Przemek said:

Don't understand why do You ask? That forced subtitles don't work and I don't want to see them as default in Emby. Is is possible or I have to choose working subtitles every time?

Do you know what the difference is between forced subtitles and normal subtitles? Most of the time the forced subtitles won't show anything. That's why I'm asking these questions, because you're saying "not working", and I'm guessing that the subtitles just don't have anything at that particular point in the video.

[Przemek 70]

I'm simple men and if subtitles don't show at all, it's mean for me that they don't work. It's possible to force Emby to use other subtitles that works?

[Luke 42077]

5 minutes ago, Przemek said:

I'm simple men and if subtitles don't show at all, it's mean for me that they don't work. It's possible to force Emby to use other subtitles that works?

Yes, pick a different subtitle track, such as the non-forced subtitles.

[ebr 16169]

You may want to change your user default subtitle settings to "Always Show Subtitles" as the "Smart" or "Default" settings are going to choose those forced ones.

[Przemek 70]

5 minutes ago, ebr said:

You may want to change your user default subtitle settings to "Always Show Subtitles" as the "Smart" or "Default" settings are going to choose those forced ones.

I have that option set. I change to Intelligent and see how it goes. Thanks.
 

[pwhodges 2012]

52 minutes ago, Przemek said:

I'm simple men and if subtitles don't show at all, it's mean for me that they don't work.

Most typically, forced subtitles are for words and signs in a different language from the main dialogue; they are not subtitles of the whole dialogue.  This is why most of the time you won't see anything - there's nothing to be seen!

Paul

[Przemek 70]

So they are unnecessary for watching. It will be nice if Enby ignore them and set other as default. I try `Inteligent` but after restart Emby it's still give me that forced as default.

[Luke 42077]

2 hours ago, Przemek said:

So they are unnecessary for watching. It will be nice if Enby ignore them and set other as default. I try `Inteligent` but after restart Emby it's still give me that forced as default.

They are necessary, to certain people.

You probably have the user option enabled to remember selected tracks.

[Przemek 70]

7 minutes ago, Luke said:

You probably have the user option enabled to remember selected tracks.

 

Yes but I clear every track history.

[ebr 16169]

3 hours ago, Przemek said:

I try `Inteligent` but after restart Emby it's still give me that forced as default.

The track is marked as "Default" as well as forced so it will be preferred.

For most people the forced track is the only one they want to see because it contains only dialog that does not conform to the main language of the film.

[Przemek 70]

Sorry @ebrbut I don't understand how that forced subtitles are used by someone if they are not display during play. I set to play original language of films and polish subtitles but content from netlix is always set to Polish language and that forced SUBRIP subs.

[ebr 16169]

Just now, Przemek said:

I don't understand how that forced subtitles are used by someone if they are not display during play.

They are displayed.  It is just that they only exist for dialog that is NOT the main language of the film.

1 minute ago, Przemek said:

is always set to Polish language and that forced SUBRIP subs

If the audio track is Polish then you would never see subtitles for Polish dialog in a "forced" subtitle track.  You would see them if someone started talking in some language other than Polish in that track.

[Przemek 70]

I always change to English or oryginal language but that forced don't show when play.

[pwhodges 2012]

Look at the subtitles using Subtitle Edit (it can open them directly from the video file) - then you will see how little is actually contained in a typical forced subtitles track.  I've seen them with as little as the translation of a single sign.

Paul

[Przemek 70]

OK, I believe that but meybe there should be option to ignore that subs in Enby.

[ebr 16169]

14 hours ago, Przemek said:

OK, I believe that but meybe there should be option to ignore that subs in Enby.

I imagine forced subs are by far the most common ones used.  If you remove the "default" flag from those subs I believe it will solve your issue.