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mrbenjaminryder
Posted

Hello,

My Live TV guide appears to be using Parental Ratings from another country. For example on the LOTR below it is displaying PG-13 which isn't used in the UK, it should be 12A.

Another example is Inspector Morse showing a rating of 'G'. In the UK this would be 'U'.

Any idea where I need to look to check I have it set right?

Thanks.

 

 

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Posted

Hi, what guide data did you configure?

mrbenjaminryder
Posted

Hi Luke,

Please see attached images..

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Posted

OK, @Carlocan report this to our guide data provider. Thanks.

Carlo
Posted

@mrbenjaminryder

Any chance you could run a test for me?

I'd like for you to remove the guide listing for Canada and then refresh.

 

mrbenjaminryder
Posted
3 minutes ago, Carlo said:

@mrbenjaminryder

Any chance you could run a test for me?

I'd like for you to remove the guide listing for Canada and then refresh.

 

Yep, will give this a go. However I use that for NHL channels so wouldn't be a long term solution.

Carlo
Posted

I just want to verify the Server isn't pulling movie/show info for some reason from the Canada feed which use different Parental ratings then the UK.

mrbenjaminryder
Posted

No change.

Showing as R, but in the UK is rated as 15 (according to the BBFC)

Thanks for investigating.

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Carlo
Posted

Sending you a PM.

Carlo
Posted

Thanks, I can duplicate this.

Carlo
Posted
On 5/30/2023 at 2:36 AM, mrbenjaminryder said:

No change.

Showing as R, but in the UK is rated as 15 (according to the BBFC)

Thanks for investigating.

Do a quick check for me and let me know what country code and language is set for this library? 

  • 10 months later...
mrbenjaminryder
Posted

Hello,

I'm still experiencing the wrong Parental Ratings in the guide..

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Do you know if this bug got fixed? Is there anything I need to change my end to get it to show UK ratings?

Posted
On 4/6/2024 at 5:32 AM, mrbenjaminryder said:

Hello,

I'm still experiencing the wrong Parental Ratings in the guide..

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Do you know if this bug got fixed? Is there anything I need to change my end to get it to show UK ratings?

HI, we'll look into what our guide data source offers but I believe they are just sending back the original rating from the show.

 

  • 4 months later...
zaHrecsohbiw
Posted

I live in the US and use Emby provided guide data, which is the highest quality guide / EPG source I've come across, but I also get parental ratings that are all over the place, and every so often they aren't even valid characters. Just another data point to pass to your provider. 

Posted
10 minutes ago, zaHrecsohbiw said:

but I also get parental ratings that are all over the place, and every so often they aren't even valid characters.

Hi.  Example?

zaHrecsohbiw
Posted (edited)

@ebr

So, I did not have an example on hand for an invalid character, but it is quite easy to stumble onto a parental rating that is not correct for my market (US). It only took checking two items on my guide to find one with a Canadian "C8" rating. I didn't want to take a picture, so I found the item in the guide json and found something interesting:

{
  "startTime": "2024-08-18T02:30Z",
  "endTime": "2024-08-18T03:00Z",
  "duration": 30,
  "qualifiers": [
    "New"
  ],
  "channels": [
    "894"
  ],
  "program": {
    "tmsId": "SH007688630000",
    "rootId": "492867",
    "seriesId": "492867",
    "subType": "Sports non-event",
    "title": "Sports Stars of Tomorrow",
    "releaseYear": 2005,
    "releaseDate": "2005-09-18",
    "origAirDate": "2005-09-18",
    "titleLang": "en",
    "descriptionLang": "en",
    "entityType": "Show",
    "genres": [
      "Anthology"
    ],
    "longDescription": "Profiles of the top rookie, college and high-school talent in sports; current athletes share their experiences, advice and personal impressions of the road to stardom.",
    "shortDescription": "Interviews and features on some of the best high school athletes in the country.",
    "topCast": [
      "Charles Davis"
    ],
    "ratings": [
      {
        "body": "Canadian Parental Rating",
        "code": "C8"
      },
      {
        "body": "USA Parental Rating",
        "code": "TVG"
      }
    ],
    "preferredImage": {
      "width": "480",
      "height": "720",
      "uri": "assets/p492867_b_v12_aa.jpg?w=480&h=720",
      "category": "Banner-L1",
      "text": "yes",
      "primary": "true",
      "tier": "Series"
    }
  },
  "station": {
    "stationId": "10785",
    "callSign": "KUTP",
    "videoQuality": {
      "signalType": "Analog"
    },
    "affiliateCallSign": "MNT",
    "affiliateId": "51307",
    "channel": "894",
    "preferredImage": {
      "width": "720",
      "height": "540",
      "uri": "assets/s51307_ll_h15_aa.png?w=720&h=540",
      "category": "Logo",
      "primary": "true"
    }
  }
}

So, then I started looking around at some other ones:

This one shows a rating of "16" in the guide: (curious why there is no US rating. It's definitely a US channel and US programming)

{
...
"ratings":[
	{"body":"Ministero della Cultura","code":"VM14"},
	{"body":"Krajowa Rada Radiofonii i Telewizji","code":"12"},
	{"body":"Freiwillige Selbstkontrolle der Filmwirtschaft","code":"16"},
	{"body":"Departamento de Justiça, Classificação, Títulos e Qualificação","code":"A14","subRating":"Linguagem Imprópria|Violência"},
	{"body":"Arcom","code":"-10"}
]
...
}

Another that shows up as "12" in the guide: (This is a show on the Weather Channel)

{
...
"ratings":[{"body":"Freiwillige Selbstkontrolle der Filmwirtschaft","code":"12"},{"body":"Australian Classification Board","code":"M 15+"}]
...
}

And here is one where the guide shows a rating of "0":

"ratings":[{"body":"Freiwillige Selbstkontrolle der Filmwirtschaft","code":"0"},{"body":"Motion Picture Association","code":"PG-13","subRating":"Sequences of Violence"},{"body":"Statens medieråd","code":"Från 11 år"},{"body":"Alberta's Film Classification Board","code":"PG","subRating":"Violence"},{"body":"Manitoba Film Classification Board","code":"PG","subRating":"Violence"},{"body":"Saskatchewan Film and Video Classification Board","code":"PG","subRating":"Violence"},{"body":"B.C. Film Classification Office","code":"PG","subRating":"Violence"},{"body":"Ontario Film Authority","code":"PG","subRating":"Violence"},{"body":"British Board of Film Classification","code":"12A"},{"body":"Mediakasvatus- ja kuvaohjelmayksikkö","code":"K12"},{"body":"Consejo de Calificación Cinematográfica","code":"TE"},{"body":"Australian Classification Board","code":"PG"},{"body":"映倫","code":"G"},{"body":"Ministero della Cultura","code":"T"},{"body":"Instituto de Cinematografía y de las Artes Visuales","code":"7"},{"body":"Departamento de Justiça, Classificação, Títulos e Qualificação","code":"12","subRating":"Violência"},{"body":"Régie du cinéma","code":"G"},{"body":"Medierådet","code":"11"},{"body":"영상물등급위원회","code":"12+"},{"body":"Krajowa Rada Radiofonii i Telewizji","code":"12"},{"body":"Kijkwijzer","code":"6","subRating":"Violence"}]

 

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zaHrecsohbiw
Posted

Here are a handful of randomly selected items in the guide for which the parental rating is correct (i.e. showing US-appropriate ratings):

All About the Benjamins:
"ratings":[{"body":"Motion Picture Association","code":"R","subRating":"Pervasive Language|Brief Sexuality|Strong Violence"},{"body":"B.C. Film Classification Office","code":"18A","subRating":"Violence|Frequent Coarse Language"},{"body":"Maritime Film Classification Board","code":"18","subRating":"Extreme Violence"},{"body":"Ontario Film Authority","code":"14A","subRating":"Not Recommended for Children|Violence|Coarse Language"},{"body":"Régie du cinéma","code":"13+","subRating":"Violence"},{"body":"Saskatchewan Film and Video Classification Board","code":"18A","subRating":"Violence|Frequent Coarse Language"},{"body":"Departamento de Justiça, Classificação, Títulos e Qualificação","code":"16"},{"body":"Freiwillige Selbstkontrolle der Filmwirtschaft","code":"18"}]

The Incredible Dr. Pol:
"ratings":[{"body":"Krajowa Rada Radiofonii i Telewizji","code":"12"},{"body":"Dirección General de Radio, Televisión y Cinematografía","code":"B"},{"body":"Australian Classification Board","code":"PG"},{"body":"Canadian Parental Rating","code":"PG"},{"body":"USA Parental Rating","code":"TVPG","subRating":"L"},{"body":"Kijkwijzer","code":"AL"},{"body":"Departamento de Justiça, Classificação, Títulos e Qualificação","code":"14","subRating":"Procedimentos Médicos|Temas Sensíveis"},{"body":"방송통신심의위원회","code":"15"}],

Space's Deepest Secrets:
"ratings":[{"body":"Canadian Parental Rating","code":"PG"},{"body":"USA Parental Rating","code":"TVPG"},{"body":"Freiwillige Selbstkontrolle der Filmwirtschaft","code":"6"}]

Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix:
"ratings":[{"body":"Motion Picture Association","code":"PG-13","subRating":"Frightening Images|Sequences of Fantasy Violence"},{"body":"Manitoba Film Classification Board","code":"PG","subRating":"Frightening Scenes|Violence|Not Rec. for Young Children"},{"body":"B.C. Film Classification Office","code":"PG","subRating":"May Frighten Young Children"},{"body":"Saskatchewan Film and Video Classification Board","code":"PG","subRating":"May Frighten Young Children"},{"body":"Ontario Film Authority","code":"PG","subRating":"Frightening Scenes|Not Rec. for Young Children"},{"body":"Alberta's Film Classification Board","code":"PG","subRating":"Frightening Scenes|Not Rec. for Young Children"},{"body":"Régie du cinéma","code":"G","subRating":"Not Rec. for Young Children"},{"body":"Maritime Film Classification Board","code":"PG","subRating":"Frightening Scenes"},{"body":"British Board of Film Classification","code":"12A","subRating":"Moderate Fantasy Horror|Moderate Fantasy Violence"},{"body":"Departamento de Justiça, Classificação, Títulos e Qualificação","code":"12"},{"body":"UK Content Provider","code":"12"},{"body":"Mediakasvatus- ja kuvaohjelmayksikkö","code":"K12"},{"body":"Freiwillige Selbstkontrolle der Filmwirtschaft","code":"12"},{"body":"Australian Classification Board","code":"M 15+"},{"body":"Arcom","code":"-10"},{"body":"Film \u0026 Publication Board","code":"13"},{"body":"Instituto Nacional de Cine y Artes Audiovisuales","code":"ATP"},{"body":"Kijkwijzer","code":"12","subRating":"Fear|Violence"},{"body":"Dirección General de Radio, Televisión y Cinematografía","code":"B"},{"body":"Statens medieråd","code":"Från 11 år"},{"body":"Irish Film Classification Office","code":"12A"},{"body":"Instituto de Cinematografía y de las Artes Visuales","code":"7"},{"body":"영상물등급위원회","code":"All"},{"body":"Krajowa Rada Radiofonii i Telewizji","code":"12"},{"body":"Central Board of Film Certification","code":"A"}]

Jurassic Fight Club:
"ratings":[{"body":"USA Parental Rating","code":"TV14"},{"body":"Canadian Parental Rating","code":"14+"},{"body":"Freiwillige Selbstkontrolle Fernsehen","code":"12"},{"body":"Freiwillige Selbstkontrolle der Filmwirtschaft","code":"12"},{"body":"Departamento de Justiça, Classificação, Títulos e Qualificação","code":"A10"},{"body":"방송통신심의위원회","code":"15"}]

Fast Times at Ridgemont High:
"ratings":[{"body":"Motion Picture Association","code":"R"},{"body":"British Board of Film Classification","code":"18"},{"body":"Manitoba Film Classification Board","code":"R"},{"body":"Maritime Film Classification Board","code":"18"},{"body":"Ontario Film Authority","code":"R"},{"body":"Departamento de Justiça, Classificação, Títulos e Qualificação","code":"16"},{"body":"Alberta's Film Classification Board","code":"14A","subRating":"Sexual Content"},{"body":"Australian Classification Board","code":"M 15+"},{"body":"Film \u0026 Publication Board","code":"18"},{"body":"Instituto Nacional de Cine y Artes Audiovisuales","code":"SAM 16"},{"body":"Mediakasvatus- ja kuvaohjelmayksikkö","code":"K12"},{"body":"Régie du cinéma","code":"13+"},{"body":"Statens medieråd","code":"Från 11 år"},{"body":"Medierådet","code":"A"},{"body":"Freiwillige Selbstkontrolle der Filmwirtschaft","code":"12"},{"body":"영상물등급위원회","code":"18+"},{"body":"Kijkwijzer","code":"12","subRating":"Coarse Language|Sex"},{"body":"UK Content Provider","code":"15"},{"body":"Medietilsynet","code":"15 år"}]

I am not seeing an obvious pattern and the only guess I have is that perhaps some code in the localization or schedules logic has faulty logic for selecting the correct member from the ratings array?

zaHrecsohbiw
Posted
On 8/31/2024 at 3:58 PM, ebr said:

Hi.  Example?

This is obviously very thorough and has a lot of useful metadata. I just find it curious that it does _not_ include US ratings in this case. (Note: it at least makes sense that for this example, the displayed rating is wrong in the guide. It makes less sense in the aforementioned examples where US ratings _are_ available but still not displayed.)

It seems like the intention in the GUI is to also display all provided qualifiers and genres? Perhaps not. I swear I've seen at least two qualifiers listed at once before, but I could be misremembering. I don't know if you have a way of prioritizing the most relevant qualifiers and omitting the ones that don't matter, or if they manage some other logic, etc. 

{
  "startTime": "2024-09-03T16:30Z",
  "endTime": "2024-09-03T17:00Z",
  "duration": 30,
  "qualifiers": [
    "CC",
    "HD 1080i",
    "HDTV",
    "Live",
    "New"
  ],
  "channels": [
    "353"
  ],
  "program": {
    "tmsId": "SH027293710000",
    "rootId": "11766722",
    "seriesId": "11766722",
    "subType": "Series",
    "title": "Bloomberg Markets",
    "releaseYear": 2015,
    "releaseDate": "2015-05-11",
    "origAirDate": "2015-05-11",
    "titleLang": "en-GB",
    "descriptionLang": "en",
    "entityType": "Show",
    "genres": [
      "Bus./financial",
      "News"
    ],
    "longDescription": "The most important global business and breaking markets news and information as it happens.",
    "shortDescription": "The most important global business and breaking markets news and information as it happens.",
    "topCast": [
      "Vonnie Quinn",
      "Shery Ahn",
      "Matt Miller"
    ],
    "ratings": [
      {
        "body": "Departamento de Justiça, Classificação, Títulos e Qualificação",
        "code": "L"
      },
      {
        "body": "Australian Classification Board",
        "code": "G"
      }
    ],
    "preferredImage": {
      "width": "480",
      "height": "720",
      "uri": "assets/p11766722_b_v8_ac.jpg?w=480&h=720",
      "category": "Banner-L1",
      "text": "yes",
      "primary": "true",
      "tier": "Series"
    }
  },
  "station": {
    "stationId": "71799",
    "callSign": "BLOOMHD",
    "videoQuality": {
      "signalType": "Digital",
      "truResolution": "HD 1080i",
      "videoType": "HDTV"
    },
    "channel": "353",
    "preferredImage": {
      "width": "720",
      "height": "540",
      "uri": "assets/s71799_ll_h15_ab.png?w=720&h=540",
      "category": "Logo",
      "primary": "true"
    }
  }
}

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Posted

HI, yes looks like we are just using the first rating. We will have to make that selection a little more intelligent. Thanks.

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mrbenjaminryder
Posted

Pleased the error has finally been tracked down and will be fixed!

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