live tv streaming problem

[Karsta62 3]

emby server version 4.7.11.0 on ubuntu 22.04 
Just bought emby premiere for a year to get Live TV and Android auto (a separate issue). A mistake.
I did not get either one working as expected.

For Live TV i need vuplus plugin. Simple to set up. Picons work perfectly as well as program guide. But the one thing that matters is just an error message. Streaming with LAN/internet computer/phone says: "No compatible streams are currently available. Please try again later or contact your system administrator for details".
Streaming with other vuplus/enigma apps or with VLC works fine.

I installed a hdhomerun plugin to my vuplus, but that does not work at all with emby. Like it did not exist.
I've also tried using m3u playlists (which work with VLC) but no go with emby.

For 50€/year one would expect some official technical support in my opinion. But I'm hopefull someone has some experience with this issue. Any tips appreciated.

 

[Luke 42077]

@Karsta62

 

Hi there, let's look at an example. Please attach the information requested in how to report a media playback issue. Thanks!

 

[Karsta62 3]

18 hours ago, Luke said:

@Karsta62

 

Hi there, let's look at an example. Please attach the information requested in how to report a media playback issue. Thanks!

 

Sorry, I've  struggled with this for days and was a bit pissed. Attached the embyserver.txt with debug on.
The most recent entry should be when i just tried to stream a channel.

embyserver.txt

[Luke 42077]

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I installed a hdhomerun plugin to my vuplus, but that does not work at all with emby. Like it did not exist.

Hi, did you run the refresh guide scheduled task in Emby Server after adding the hdhomerun to vuplus?

But also, why not just add the hd homerun to emby server directly? It has native support for HD Homerun. What do you need VuPlus for?

[Karsta62 3]

17 hours ago, Luke said:

Hi, did you run the refresh guide scheduled task in Emby Server after adding the hdhomerun to vuplus?

But also, why not just add the hd homerun to emby server directly? It has native support for HD Homerun. What do you need VuPlus for?

I've refreshed guide manually every time many times, using any of the three tv-setups. though I don't need the epg.
My emby server does not have TV receivers capable for pay TV. VuPlus has my pay-tv cards and I want to be able to stream them using emby as well as all the channels.

The status is:
m3u:
works with local usb-tv cards in emby server with free channels. Not from vuplus, even the corresponding vuplus playlist works using other methods than emby.
hdhomerun:
plugin in vuplus box: Choosing this method in emby says No devices detected, manually entered ip, still nothing works
vuplus plugin:
Channels found, picons work, EPG works, streaming does not work. Using many other methods streaming works from vuplus box.

So the vuplus plugin is the closest and the only way, unless hdhomerun somehow would come to life.
Was the log useful at all?

[Luke 42077]

On 5/4/2023 at 11:11 AM, Karsta62 said:

I've refreshed guide manually every time many times, using any of the three tv-setups. though I don't need the epg.
My emby server does not have TV receivers capable for pay TV. VuPlus has my pay-tv cards and I want to be able to stream them using emby as well as all the channels.

The status is:
m3u:
works with local usb-tv cards in emby server with free channels. Not from vuplus, even the corresponding vuplus playlist works using other methods than emby.
hdhomerun:
plugin in vuplus box: Choosing this method in emby says No devices detected, manually entered ip, still nothing works
vuplus plugin:
Channels found, picons work, EPG works, streaming does not work. Using many other methods streaming works from vuplus box.

So the vuplus plugin is the closest and the only way, unless hdhomerun somehow would come to life.
Was the log useful at all?

The log contains errors saying unauthorized, which suggest vuplus is rejecting due to authentication? Does vuplus have options to control this?

[Karsta62 3]

I think the authentication is either on or off. I kinda hoped the "Web Interface username" in the plugin settings would be used to authenticate.

[Karsta62 3]

Interesting. I changed the streaming port in emby to the vu+ transcoding port and got video. Though it's transcoded and all dvb/ttx subtitles are gone.
Some progress anyway.

[Luke 42077]

1 hour ago, Karsta62 said:

Interesting. I changed the streaming port in emby to the vu+ transcoding port and got video. Though it's transcoded and all dvb/ttx subtitles are gone.
Some progress anyway.

Can we please see an example?

How to Report a Problem

Thanks.

[Karsta62 3]

Can you be more specific of what kind of example?
Now I get live tv stream to emby, but it's transcoded by vu+ box since the port is the one it sends transcoded video and the "stats for nerds" shows that as well.
When vu+ transcodes, the dvb/ttx subtitles are always lost unfortunately.
Using the "raw" stream they remain and work for example with VLC or any other player supporting dvb/ttx subs.

An update while writing:
On the vu+ box I removed the requirement of authentication on http streams and that allowed emby to stream eventually and maintaining subtitles. Though it outputs ttx subs in all languages available simultaneously using browser in a computer, and no ttx subs using emby for android. A mess...
But without authentication is not quite what I want. But that's probably an issue with the plugin, not emby, right?

[Luke 42077]

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But without authentication is not quite what I want. But that's probably an issue with the plugin, not emby, right?

Hi, probably, but if you can provide log examples of the two scenarios that you mentioned, then I can probably provide some insight as to why the subtitles are not showing up in the first case, and then why they're all showing together in the second.

[Karsta62 3]

10 hours ago, Luke said:

Hi, probably, but if you can provide log examples of the two scenarios that you mentioned, then I can probably provide some insight as to why the subtitles are not showing up in the first case, and then why they're all showing together in the second.

Never mind the transcoded issue. It's all on VU box. 
I uploaded the logs where I watched a clip of a movie having ttx subs and the issue.

emby_logs.zip

[Karsta62 3]

Another issue encountered. Many SD channels look like the uploaded image. Sound and dvb subtitles are fine, but image is scrambled. The channels are free to air.
When starting the stream the picture is ok about 0,5-1 second.

[Karsta62 3]

Another issue encountered. Many SD channels look like the uploaded image. Sound and dvb subtitles are fine, but image is scrambled. The channels are free to air.
When starting the stream the picture is ok about 0,5-1 second.
This issue is only when using chrome on a computer so far.

Edited May 27, 2023 by Karsta62

[Luke 42077]

HI, are you still seeing this with 4.7.13?

[Karsta62 3]

22 hours ago, Luke said:

HI, are you still seeing this with 4.7.13?

Just updated and yes, the same scramble effect using chrome on linux.
As well the teletext subtitles behave the same showing all four languages one after the other rapidly. The cc-settings availabe here:

[Luke 42077]

On 6/2/2023 at 12:51 PM, Karsta62 said:

Just updated and yes, the same scramble effect using chrome on linux.
As well the teletext subtitles behave the same showing all four languages one after the other rapidly. The cc-settings availabe here:

@Karsta62you're seeing that because that's the language code in the actual stream:

12:03:43.719   Stream #0:3[0x80c](fin,swe,nor,dan): Subtitle: dvb_teletext ([6][0][0][0] / 0x0006), 492x250, Start-Time 19580.052s

Does that answer that question?

[Luke 42077]

The next questions I have are:

• If you use Emby to create a small recording, does the recording have this problem when playing in another application such as VLC?
• If no, does the recording have this problem when playing from Emby?

[Karsta62 3]

On 6/29/2023 at 8:58 PM, Luke said:

The next questions I have are:

• If you use Emby to create a small recording, does the recording have this problem when playing in another application such as VLC?
• If no, does the recording have this problem when playing from Emby?

Using emby to watch an emby recording has the same scrambled result. But when I disable dvb subtitles on emby, the video is fine. That is when using chrome on linux.
With VLC the emby recording is fine. So it's related to DVB subtitles and emby on chrome I think.

When ever a channel has anything teletext, emby brings it on by default (chrome/linux).

[Karsta62 3]

On 6/29/2023 at 8:57 PM, Luke said:

@Karsta62you're seeing that because that's the language code in the actual stream:

12:03:43.719   Stream #0:3[0x80c](fin,swe,nor,dan): Subtitle: dvb_teletext ([6][0][0][0] / 0x0006), 492x250, Start-Time 19580.052s

Does that answer that question?

Hmmmm.....I think emby should not activate teletext at all by default. 

[Luke 42077]

Have you configured your Emby user subtitle options?

[Karsta62 3]

Right. Dumbass I am. Setting it to Smart fixed the teletext on by default issue. Though still when I activate dvb-subs, the image gets scrambled.
HD Pay TV channels don't work. They would have teletext subs. Unable to test more just yet.

[Karsta62 3]

11 minutes ago, Karsta62 said:

Right. Dumbass I am. Setting it to Smart fixed the teletext on by default issue. Though still when I activate dvb-subs, the image gets scrambled.
HD Pay TV channels don't work. They would have teletext subs. Unable to test more just yet.

Couldn't edit
But false info was the pay HD channels. I had a second paytv chanel open and the box can only handle one.
But still the issue of getting all teletext languages on continuously. As in the images above, I can choose only them all or off.
Using VLC it automatically chooses Finnish, as I want