multi-part movies thumbnail and art (bug)

[Flest 8]

emby does not work correctly with multi-part movies
1 does not create thumbnail for all parts
2 creates useless artwork, but only for the first part1

this is a mistake, right?

 

Edited February 11, 2023 by Flest

[ebr 16187]

Hi.  Why not combine those into a single file?

[Flest 8]

1 hour ago, ebr said:

Hi.  Why not combine those into a single file?

becouse its a multi-part release as a mini-series.
each part with an intro and credits 
the credits in the middle of the movie look weird, don't you think?

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3460252/alternateversions/?tab=cz&ref_=tt_trv_alt

as I understand emby supports multi-part format like kodi?
I can watch all 4 parts of the movie, so it works as it should

But....
Why does he then create the wrong artworks?

why is the thumbnail  only for the first file?

it looks like a bug

Edited February 11, 2023 by Flest

[ebr 16187]

5 hours ago, Flest said:

becouse its a multi-part release as a mini-series.

Does either thetvdb or themoviedb have it defined as such?

[Happy2Play 9783]

15 minutes ago, ebr said:

Does either thetvdb or themoviedb have it defined as such?

TVDB denied it as Series and TMDB use to have it as TV but not anymore.  As neither allow alternate cuts of original movies as this is a Netflix extended cut but breaking it up no longer makes it a movie.

But pretty sure there is another topic on this.

Edited February 11, 2023 by Happy2Play

[Flest 8]

9 hours ago, ebr said:

Does either thetvdb or themoviedb have it defined as such?

I don't know, I used to use kodi, after switching to embi I ran into this bug

(I have a large collection, and all the data is left from the Kodi. now i use tinymediamanager to update nfo)

kodi works fine with multipart movies

funny, but embi works too!!!!!!
but why does he create useless pictures for the first part?
why creates a thumbnail only for the first part?

emby sees all parts, sees poster, uses standard poster for all parts except 1st
but for the first one they will download their poster and other artworks, but why??? all the artworks you need are in the folder)))

Edited February 12, 2023 by Flest

[ebr 16187]

16 hours ago, Happy2Play said:

TVDB denied it as Series and TMDB use to have it as TV but not anymore.  As neither allow alternate cuts of original movies as this is a Netflix extended cut but breaking it up no longer makes it a movie.

In that case, I would set this up as separate items and then put them in a collection.  That should provide you much better support for them as you desire. 

[Flest 8]

1 hour ago, ebr said:

In that case, I would set this up as separate items and then put them in a collection.  That should provide you much better support for them as you desire. 

doesn't sound like a solution

Well this is clearly a bug.

the server sees all parts, displays them in the interface
displays the poster for 2-4 parts correctly
but downloads useless artworks for part 1 and doesnt create thumbnail for 2-4 parts

the server correctly transmits data to the kodi with emby next-gen, kodi sees all parts too

Edited February 12, 2023 by Flest

[ebr 16187]

Our multi-part handling is not designed for this scenario.  It is designed for old items that were split into multiple files due to technical or physical limitations. 

Your situation is very different as each of these items are their own "thing" and should have their own  metadata (multi-part items are designed to share metadata as they are just arbitrary pieces of the same thing).

Therefore, the proper solution in our system would be to make them separate items.

[Flest 8]

27 minutes ago, ebr said:

Our multi-part handling is not designed for this scenario.  It is designed for old items that were split into multiple files due to technical or physical limitations. 

Your situation is very different as each of these items are their own "thing" and should have their own  metadata (multi-part items are designed to share metadata as they are just arbitrary pieces of the same thing).

Therefore, the proper solution in our system would be to make them separate items.

what's the difference for what reason the film was divided, technical or physical limitations or netflix solution?

ok... what if it was an old movie split into 2 dvds?
what would change? )))) Nothing... ablosute nothing

the emby would still create a thumbnail only for the first part
and  wrong artoworks for the first part and ignoring artoworks in the folder....

the problem is not only in my case, it's just a problem

and one more...
if you're claiming it's for old splited movies, fine...
so why then does he use pictures for ONE PART of the movie and not for the whole movie? ))) where is the logic here?

moive: the title (year)
parts: 
the title (year) part1
the title (year) part2
the title (year) part3...

artworks: the title (year)-artwork type 
right?

the title (year)-poster

the title (year)-fanart

etc... 

but we have this...  the title (year) part1-poster

It is very strange. Of course, I can create a collection and make different "movies" from parts, but this isn't a solution 
its  duct tape ))))

while I use the kodi, I had no problems with multi parts films, its emby problem  (

Edited February 12, 2023 by Flest

[ebr 16187]

4 hours ago, Flest said:

what's the difference for what reason the film was divided, technical or physical limitations or netflix solution?

ok... what if it was an old movie split into 2 dvds?
what would change? )))) Nothing... ablosute nothing

Hi.  The reason is the very thing you are running into.  There is a big difference between something that is arbitrarily divided into pieces and something that is logically divided into different parts or "episodes".  The biggest one being the metadata of which images are a part of. 

[Flest 8]

8 hours ago, ebr said:

Hi.  The reason is the very thing you are running into.  There is a big difference between something that is arbitrarily divided into pieces and something that is logically divided into different parts or "episodes".  The biggest one being the metadata of which images are a part of. 

the metadata of a movie and a movie divided into parts are the same, aren't they?
titles, plot, directors, actors, etc.
poster, fanart, disc art

no?

I already wrote...
all 4 parts of the movie can be seen in embi, can be seen in kody (embi next gene), everything works!!!!

BUT WHY IS THE THUMBNAIL ONLY FOR THE 1st PART?
why artworks are used with INCORRECT NAMES???? why not (the title (year)-arttype) ???? 
why (the title (year) part1-arttype)???

what's the difference how the film is divided, into 2 DVDs as you wrote above or divided by netflix?
THIS IS THE SAME MOVIE

if the emby supports parts (kodi too), it SHOULD work with them correctly, right?

if the movie multi parts, why not thumbnail all the parts? (full movie) why not use MOVIE artworks!!!!!!! why PART 1??

Do you really not understand? ))))

now the emby CAN work with multi-parts films 
emby  understands that this is ONE FILM.    DAMN!!! )))
displays parts LIKE A FILM!!!!

but where is the thumbnail for parts 2-4? ))))
why arts for the first part?
IF THIS IS A FILM!!!! NOT 1 part !!!!  

I'm going to cry )))))

[Luke 42083]

Hi, yes we have a little work to do in order to improve the multi-part video experience. We will get there, and I think this may be improved in the upcoming 4.8 release, but I would still suggest joining the files for the best possible experience.

[Happy2Play 9783]

16 minutes ago, Luke said:

Hi, yes we have a little work to do in order to improve the multi-part video experience. We will get there, and I think this may be improved in the upcoming 4.8 release, but I would still suggest joining the files for the best possible experience.

Normal parted movies yes.  But this is a Netflix Extended release in episode format (each part with an intro and credits).

No metadata provider has metadata do to no alternate cut rules.  This edge case technically is a Custom Miniseries and should be in TV as it is not the Movie.

As for images is the issue not specific to naming as there is no moviename-imagetype matched to filename?

Don't believe the TMM naming scheme here has ever been supported for multiple parts.

Don't remember is bif images were extended to additional parts.