To complain about lacking TVnext progress

[CharlesF 36]

On 10/9/2025 at 3:56 AM, pwhodges said:

We've had "4.9, the beta releases", so next up is "4.9, the maintenance releases".

The next real beta won't start until the new stable release is actually stable - this is, understandably, the usual pattern.

Paul

Wait so now official releases aren’t deemed stable?  Wtf

[bungee91 133]

On 10/9/2025 at 2:56 AM, pwhodges said:

We've had "4.9, the beta releases", so next up is "4.9, the maintenance releases".

The next real beta won't start until the new stable release is actually stable - this is, understandably, the usual pattern.

Paul

If your logic were true, I'd expect to only see bugs and fixes completed under this maintenance cycle release. I'd bet money that will not be the case here. SMH....

[BillOatman 596]

14 hours ago, rdhardi said:

Same here! My husband paid for lifetime sub back in the day, specifically for Live TV for me...to coax me off our cable TV subscription. It took me several years, but I finally "cut the cord". It was good for years with the AndroidTV app on Shield Pro. Now that the TV app is apparently going away, I rarely use Emby for Live TV anymore. I've tried the Universal app, but side-loading apps on several TVs is exhausting...not to mention, IMO, it's just a mobile app that doesn't work well on big screen TVs.

Honestly, invest in TiviMate for live TV.  They have a free version to try.

[CharlesF 36]

1 hour ago, BillOatman said:

Honestly, invest in TiviMate for live TV.  They have a free version to try.

How well does the epg work?  Meaning my IPTV provider provides a url for the EPG, but how easy is it to make sure channels match, etc.

Edited October 10, 2025 by CharlesF

[kikinjo 281]

49 minutes ago, CharlesF said:

How well does the epg work?  Meaning my IPTV provider provides a url for the EPG, but how easy is it to make sure channels match, etc.

It handles it really good, but tivimate is not intended to do work of an iptveditor, it can do alot of stuff,groups, bunch of other things, but check out iptv editor, great web application

that will do everything you need really simple and has alot of features.

[BillOatman 596]

7 hours ago, CharlesF said:

How well does the epg work?  Meaning my IPTV provider provides a url for the EPG, but how easy is it to make sure channels match, etc.

Like @kikinjosaid, it works great with EPG data, but it does not provide EPG data itself.
If your provider has EPG and M3U files TiviMate should work with them straight away. The free version will let you see that.

For more control, and FASTASTIC EPG data , have a look IPTVBoss.  I use this in conjunction with TiviMate and I have it create files for my Emby server as well for my remote kids to use. Two things it (IPTVBoss) does also for Emby specifically is 

• Allows me to remove all the streams I don't want and bring the count down to what Emby can handle.
• It has an option that gets around what some (me included) think is a design flaw in Emby in that Emby will ignore a stream thinking it is a duplicate if it has a TVG_ID (guide data identifier) that is already used by another stream.  So if you have two sources for ESPN and they share the same guide data (and why not, both streams have the same shows) Emby will ignore what it thinks is a duplicate.  IPTVBoss can optionally create unique TVG_IDs for each stream containing the same data, thus allowing Emby to accept both streams.

Edited October 11, 2025 by BillOatman

[CharlesF 36]

17 hours ago, kikinjo said:

It handles it really good, but tivimate is not intended to do work of an iptveditor, it can do alot of stuff,groups, bunch of other things, but check out iptv editor, great web application

that will do everything you need really simple and has alot of features.

My iptv service lets me select which channels I want already so my m3u only contains the channels I want

[CharlesF 36]

10 hours ago, BillOatman said:

Like @kikinjosaid, it works great with EPG data, but it does not provide EPG data itself.
If your provider has EPG and M3U files TiviMate should work with them straight away. The free version will let you see that.

For more control, and FASTASTIC EPG data , have a look IPTVBoss.  I use this in conjunction with TiviMate and I have it create files for my Emby server as well for my remote kids to use. Two things it (IPTVBoss) does also for Emby specifically is 

• Allows me to remove all the streams I don't want and bring the count down to what Emby can handle.
• It has an option that gets around what some (me included) think is a design flaw in Emby in that Emby will ignore a stream thinking it is a duplicate if it has a TVG_ID (guide data identifier) that is already used by another stream.  So if you have two sources for ESPN and they share the same guide data (and why not, both streams have the same shows) Emby will ignore what it thinks is a duplicate.  IPTVBoss can optionally create unique TVG_IDs for each stream containing the same data, thus allowing Emby to accept both streams.

Thanks.  My provider does provide an epg url.  I’ve tried iptvboss and to be honest it’s a lot more work than I’d like to spend.  
 

I don’t see the ability to add epg unless I upgrade.  I’d love to be able to see if the epg data matches up smoothly before paying. 

[BillOatman 596]

4 hours ago, CharlesF said:

I don’t see the ability to add epg unless I upgrade.  I’d love to be able to see if the epg data matches up smoothly before paying. 

Ahh, I didn't realize that's how they did it.  I knew they disabled advanced things like PiP and multiview, and maybe limited you to 1 source. But the EPG working is a big selling point. But if the EPG file from your provider is valid and the tvgid's match the m3u, it will work.

Edited October 11, 2025 by BillOatman

[CharlesF 36]

Not to jinx it but live tv has been working pretty well since I installed 4.9.1.80 and haven’t installed beta updates. 

[kikinjo 281]

52 minutes ago, CharlesF said:

Not to jinx it but live tv has been working pretty well since I installed 4.9.1.80 and haven’t installed beta updates. 

We need to separate homerun / m3u streams, big big difference in stability and management. Thats the main problem and 500 more in m3u part....

[Flippz 38]

I'm using Dispatcharr together with Emby and it's pretty good right now. But I sure would like to have everything within emby.

[CharlesF 36]

9 hours ago, kikinjo said:

We need to separate homerun / m3u streams, big big difference in stability and management. Thats the main problem and 500 more in m3u part....

Im referring to m3u.  I dont have homerun 

[CharlesF 36]

3 hours ago, Flippz said:

I'm using Dispatcharr together with Emby and it's pretty good right now. But I sure would like to have everything within emby.

I actually found dispatcharr to be worse than just having it directly in emby which is what I’m doing. 

[pdclark 10]

14 hours ago, CharlesF said:

I actually found dispatcharr to be worse than just having it directly in emby which is what I’m doing. 

Are you using its most useful feature - automatic failover stream switching?

Edited October 13, 2025 by pdclark

[CharlesF 36]

On 10/11/2025 at 7:59 AM, CharlesF said:

Thanks.  My provider does provide an epg url.  I’ve tried iptvboss and to be honest it’s a lot more work than I’d like to spend.  
 

I don’t see the ability to add epg unless I upgrade.  I’d love to be able to see if the epg data matches up smoothly before paying. 

So I took the plunge.  Epg matched up for some but not all.  Is there any way to manually match in tivimate?   It works flawlessly.  No buffering. No freezing. Channels start almost instantly. So nice.  Just need epg to completely work.  Any help appreciated. 

[CharlesF 36]

On 10/13/2025 at 11:25 AM, pdclark said:

Are you using its most useful feature - automatic failover stream switching?

I was.   

[BillOatman 596]

54 minutes ago, CharlesF said:

So I took the plunge.  Epg matched up for some but not all.  Is there any way to manually match in tivimate?   It works flawlessly.  No buffering. No freezing. Channels start almost instantly. So nice.  Just need epg to completely work.  Any help appreciated. 

No.  But you can bite the one time bullet in Boss and manually match them up there.

[bandit8623 213]

On 10/12/2025 at 7:30 PM, CharlesF said:

I actually found dispatcharr to be worse than just having it directly in emby which is what I’m doing. 

xteve will show you whats matched.  before adding to emby

[CharlesF 36]

I tried StreamMaster, same results as with Dispatcharr

[daldana 122]

So we're now at beta version 4.9.2.6 and still no TVNext feature addition! Come on @Lukeand @ebr!

[scb99 245]

On 17/11/2025 at 19:17, daldana said:

So we're now at beta version 4.9.2.6 and still no TVNext feature addition! Come on @Lukeand @ebr!

I think what happened is that 4.9 beta was running so long that Luke drew a line and made a release where it stood, that is 4.9.1

4.9.2 will contain the remaining festures originally promised for 4.9, that should be a short beta of 6 months or so

4.10 will then finally contain TVNext

[denz 501]

Short Beta last one was supposed to be short and it took nearly 2 years. This stringing along is very poor form on devs they said after 4.9 and 4.9 has been released and we are still waiting. 

[ebr 16169]

14 hours ago, denz said:

they said after 4.9

We also said, multiple times, that may not mean immediately after.  After any major release there is quite a bit of time just tying up things that were not discovered during beta.  Then, there is also some accuracy to this:

18 hours ago, scb99 said:

I think what happened is that 4.9 beta was running so long that Luke drew a line and made a release where it stood, that is 4.9.1

4.9.2 will contain the remaining festures originally promised for 4.9

In fact, one of the major features designated to 4.9 is not  yet ready so that is still taking priority.

[GrimReaper 4739]

10 minutes ago, ebr said:

In fact, one of the major features designated to 4.9 is not  yet ready so that is still taking priority

Hopefully, those are SmartViews.