To complain about lacking TVnext progress

[BillOatman 596]

25 minutes ago, Dibbes said:

Interesting... 3 days and zip, nada, nothing after suggesting to be transparent... 

Honestly to me it seems foolish to wait for, or count on, this ever happening.  It has been promised for so long now, that the explanations given by management quite frankly don't make sense to me.  My guess is there is probably some kind of political or technical situation happening that may or may not ever be resolved.  I could be wrong of course.

At the end of the day, this is television remember, hardly life or death.  Use Emby, Plex, Jellyfin, Mediaportal or any one of a host of others.  Find the one you like best, and/or one that may have a more stable transparent development plan.  Or maybe use something like Tivimate (highly recommended) like I do for live TV and Emby for everything else.  I setup a small subset of what my provider supplies in Emby for my remote kids and a couple friends.  Mostly sports packages.  And the Emby live TV system now is more than sufficient for that limited use.

[CharlesF 36]

On 5/30/2025 at 2:50 PM, ebr said:

I have fully answered the question repeatedly.  Don't know what else to do.

Your answer effectively amounts to, 'it will come when it comes'.  the current beta updates are minor...there is zero visibility on when 4.9 is no longer beta.  There is zero visibility on when TVNext features will be released.  If you consider that to 'fully answer' the question, well then, we have different definitions of 'fully answered'.  

[Jdiesel 1431]

We are now 15 months into the 4.9 development cycle. The 4.8 development cycle lasted 22 months. When 4.8 was released the Emby team hinted at smaller more frequent releases but only time will tell. There are some key features promised as part of 4.9 that we have yet to see so I suspect it will be some time before a stable 4.9 is released.

[asmit238 3]

For me, the most frustrating part is the lack of acknowledgment from anyone on the team (aside from softworkz) that this has taken significantly longer than what was initially suggested. As paying customers, don't we at least deserve some transparency or recognition of that fact?

At this point, it honestly feels like there's a lack of appreciation for the people who have supported the project financially and stuck around through all the delays.

[denz 501]

Windows app for theatre has been realeased so what is the hold up with the way beta is going it would be rolling gor years this one was supposed to be quicker we have been told but this one is getting closer to 2 years like the one they said won’t happen again they would be released quicker to say I sm disappointed is understatement. The team is losing so much of potential revenue I

[CharlesF 36]

Can anyone point me to an alternative IPTV client/server setup that accepts m3u files than Emby?  The live tv functionality while fine loads slow, often skips backwards (don't tell me this is the provider issue bc it happens with downloaded tv and movies as well, its something in the emby player).  I think the bottom line here is that we can't really trust anything coming from Emby.  Yes this is not life and death per a prior post, however I think one could reasonably argue at this point the community has been fed misinformation and that expectations have been improperly set.  Emby isn't nearly as stable as Plex, but Plex's m3u implementation is horrible.  The only reason I came to Emby from Plex was for LiveTV/m3u, and while it works, its still pretty frustrating.

[BillOatman 596]

8 hours ago, CharlesF said:

Can anyone point me to an alternative IPTV client/server setup that accepts m3u files than Emby?  The live tv functionality while fine loads slow, often skips backwards (don't tell me this is the provider issue bc it happens with downloaded tv and movies as well, its something in the emby player).  I think the bottom line here is that we can't really trust anything coming from Emby.  Yes this is not life and death per a prior post, however I think one could reasonably argue at this point the community has been fed misinformation and that expectations have been improperly set.  Emby isn't nearly as stable as Plex, but Plex's m3u implementation is horrible.  The only reason I came to Emby from Plex was for LiveTV/m3u, and while it works, its still pretty frustrating.

You can try Jellyfin and see if it meets your needs, it is free and open source so costs you nothing to try except time.

[pdclark 10]

Try Dispatcharr. I recently installed it and it’s an excellent m3u curator that will feed Emby and best of all provides backup channel support.

[CharlesF 36]

23 hours ago, pdclark said:

Try Dispatcharr. I recently installed it and it’s an excellent m3u curator that will feed Emby and best of all provides backup channel support.

So I actually did this and found that it actually loaded live channels slower than hls proxy or stream master.  Any suggestions on settings?   
 

also bc emby has a glitch where it will backtrack like 30 seconds (I observe this across both m3u streams as well as when I play my own media) even if dispatcharr does work there’s still an issue in the emby player. 

[daldana 122]

And another great reason to keep 4.9 in beta! C'mon @Lukeand @ebr!

"Support date played as a selectable field in poster view"

[scb99 245]

1 minute ago, daldana said:

And another great reason to keep 4.9 in beta! C'mon @Lukeand @ebr!

"Support date played as a selectable field in poster view"

I think they are doing alpha testing on some stuff, and this is what is really holding 4.9 up. This is just bits and pieces in the meantime

[denz 501]

The way this beta is going it will probable take a year longer than the last beta. It feels like they are doing everything they can to prolong to not work on this.  

[kikinjo 281]

18 hours ago, scb99 said:

I think they are doing alpha testing on some stuff, and this is what is really holding 4.9 up. This is just bits and pieces in the meantime

They are developing and completing new big feature, new color theme.

[CharlesF 36]

well we gotta be close now!!!!!

 

[gillmacca01 211]

5 hours ago, CharlesF said:

well we gotta be close now!!!!!

 

 No. We are still waiting on smart playlist

[Jdiesel 1431]

19 minutes ago, gillmacca01 said:

 No. We are still waiting on smart playlist

There is hope! The ebook viewer addition came out of nowhere so it is possible for new features to be added. Not sure what the appetite for that feature was but the FR request was 10 years old. 

Let's hope that smart playlists is next.

[CharlesF 36]

3 hours ago, gillmacca01 said:

 No. We are still waiting on smart playlist

I guess the comment which was intended to be dripping with sarcasm didn't come through...

[daldana 122]

No @CharlesF, I got it and share the same sentiment.

[Sammy 790]

I switched back to the regular android beta app until this is updated more, especially playback issues.

[denz 501]

They said this beta will be shorter

[Santiag0 10]

On 6/20/2025 at 1:01 PM, CharlesF said:

Can anyone point me to an alternative IPTV client/server setup that accepts m3u files than Emby?  The live tv functionality while fine loads slow, often skips backwards (don't tell me this is the provider issue bc it happens with downloaded tv and movies as well, its something in the emby player).  I think the bottom line here is that we can't really trust anything coming from Emby.  Yes this is not life and death per a prior post, however I think one could reasonably argue at this point the community has been fed misinformation and that expectations have been improperly set.  Emby isn't nearly as stable as Plex, but Plex's m3u implementation is horrible.  The only reason I came to Emby from Plex was for LiveTV/m3u, and while it works, its still pretty frustrating.

What devices do you use for your clients? if your looking to just record live tv and have a tv guide and your clients are android tv or fire tv sticks you can use tivimate. If you have a fire tv stick I suggest you purchase a usb drive 64gig or so and an OTG cable for a few dollars so you can record your tv shows. I personally don't watch live tv but the people I know that do they all use tivimate including people I know who work for cable tv companies. Tivimate also has a lot of settings so you can make it look the way you like by making the tv guide have bigger font or change the skin colors and background to animation with many many options. It also has a movies and tv on demand section to watch your movies and shows if your m3u provides that with your live channels it has cover art as well and is quite responsive when browsing media and has buffer settings for people with slow internet connections making it not lag on you while watching live tv. What most people really like is if you set a recording you don't need to have the app open and running, it just records even if your watching emby on the same device which is nice. The main difference between an app like tivimate and emby is emby allows 25 connections and tivimate allows you to use it on 5 devices that's why I will always stick with emby personally.

[pwhodges 2012]

One aspect of Emby is that when you connect to it you have to authenticate yourself.  This authentication is then used to determine what libraries, media, or other facilities you are allowed to access.  Wouldn't your proposal just bypass all of that?

Paul

[kimmer2k 3]

channels dvr has been working fine for me for live tv.  sucks that it is a subscription fee model, and its auth is whack but it’s the best solution i found that supports apple and android. their web app leaves a lot to be desired tho.

[arrbee99 1815]

Or even, you know, let us use whats already been developed.

[cybrsage 4]

A great idea would be for an admin to take over the first post and use it as an update board.  Place the update DATE in bold and then the most recent update under it, keeping the other updates there still for historical purposes.

This will prevent having to try and read through 20 pages to find the updates.  I started at the end and worked backwards and see many entries of "I have fully answered the question repeatedly" but have yet to find the pages where it is listed.  Not complaining, just would mean EMBY never has to touch this thread except to make a change to the first post.

Just my two cents.