To complain about lacking TVnext progress

[jasonmcroy 316]

3 hours ago, Flippz said:

But I channels dvr does not have any feature to add users right? 

I believe that is correct. It is something that has been brought up several times.

I don’t need to add different users so honestly I never paid much attention to those threads about it on the forum.

[roaku 842]

Might be time to update the thread title.

[spaghetti 8]

Looks like I'm going to eat my words, I tried it and on their website looks cool but the UI compared to emby is not for me. I loaded all my media and live tv to it and the live channels are fast and they don't freeze which is nice but I like emby UI better way better actually I would not change to that over emby no way, even if emby never fixes the live tv I still would not switch. Not to sound like a complete dick but it feels cheap compared to emby  sorry just being honest. Installing that just made me appreciate emby all the more to be honest. Also the channels dvr missed loads of my movies/series and had lots of wrong metadata which is not a big deal but nah.. it's not for me, good luck though!

[jasonmcroy 316]

Yeah, the UI does leave a bit to be desired compared to Emby. It just depends on what is most important to the user. In my use case, it doesn't totally matter, although there is a lot of room for improvement. I do know there are some users that only use Channels for recording but use Emby or even Plex for watching. 

There are things I love about Emby but feel I can live without by comparison. But, everyone uses these pieces of software differently too. 

For me, if Emby were able to incorporate the comskip commercial detection with a gui that would allow me to alter the cuts the way they do in Channels, I would totally change back. That is what I personally find most important in my use case. 

At least you were willing to try it out and see what works for you. 

[kimmer2k 3]

I use Channels DVR for live or recorded non-series TV. I use Emby for all other video content, but have been forced to use Infuse as a front end on my TV when Emby chokes on my 4k media.

[spaghetti 8]

17 minutes ago, jasonmcroy said:

Yeah, the UI does leave a bit to be desired compared to Emby. It just depends on what is most important to the user. In my use case, it doesn't totally matter, although there is a lot of room for improvement. I do know there are some users that only use Channels for recording but use Emby or even Plex for watching. 

There are things I love about Emby but feel I can live without by comparison. But, everyone uses these pieces of software differently too. 

For me, if Emby were able to incorporate the comskip commercial detection with a gui that would allow me to alter the cuts the way they do in Channels, I would totally change back. That is what I personally find most important in my use case. 

At least you were willing to try it out and see what works for you. 

For recording live tv I use tivimate, nothing loads channels faster and the recordings always work 100%. I created a shared folder on windows the same server my emby is on and have it on my desktop to record to, then I have tivimate on 4 tv's that are set to use the shared folder to record to that way all 4 tv's can record to that same shared folder. I use emby for everything else except live tv I might just take the live tv off emby we never use it. Also tivimate was like $20 for 5 devices lifetime subscription and it is way faster than channels dvr it loads channels instant no wait time. But if they can get this channels dvr on emby to make tv live faster go for it!

[spaghetti 8]

4 minutes ago, kimmer2k said:

I use Channels DVR for live or recorded non-series TV. I use Emby for all other video content, but have been forced to use Infuse as a front end on my TV when Emby chokes on my 4k media.

Chokes on 4k media, how fast is your bandwidth ? do you run a proxy ? do you use transcoding ? is your computer fast ram etc ? does this happen remotely or inside your network or both ? 4k for me plays fine always. Is your emby server hard wired or on wifi and how many people are connected to your emby server ?

[denz 501]

But the thing Channels DVR just works were emby does not. Tv guide has been broken since I can remember. It’s a lottery will the channel start or not, picture quality is not as good as Channels DVR. If people don’t believe me I can make a recording on my phone . Everyone is different I have been using it for over 2 days and it’s a joy to use it as everything works so far. I have to test it thoroughly to see are there issues so far did about 40 recordings no issue live tv is joy to use again.

Edit:

I have tried both the stable and beta Android TV and Android Client and both have same issue some live tv channels work some don't. Whereas in Channels DVR I haven't experienced any of that. Windows Theater the picture is really good and not once has it failed to tune to a channel it's slow but it tunes.  The interface of Channels could be better but once you get used to it I have no complaints. 

Edited February 12, 2024 by denz

[kimmer2k 3]

2 hours ago, spaghetti said:

Chokes on 4k media, how fast is your bandwidth ? do you run a proxy ? do you use transcoding ? is your computer fast ram etc ? does this happen remotely or inside your network or both ? 4k for me plays fine always. Is your emby server hard wired or on wifi and how many people are connected to your emby server ?

Wired, local, no transcoding, etc. Haven’t spent time collecting logs or debugging. Seems to happen when trying to resume a movie, but not always. It just freezes in Emby and I have to finish it in Infuse or Emby app on the phone. fwiw, this is on Apple TV which I have seen other report issues as well. 

[softworkz 5066]

@tmm1- Welcome!  

[spaghetti 8]

13 hours ago, kimmer2k said:

Wired, local, no transcoding, etc. Haven’t spent time collecting logs or debugging. Seems to happen when trying to resume a movie, but not always. It just freezes in Emby and I have to finish it in Infuse or Emby app on the phone. fwiw, this is on Apple TV which I have seen other report issues as well. 

If you want to start your own new topic on this I would be happy to help you get 4k working, there are lots of smart people on here that love to help as well, just post your new thread link here after your done so this thread can stay on topic.

[spaghetti 8]

1 minute ago, Flippz said:

I could easely live with Channels dvr if it had multiple users. How do you get around that? I mean my son uses emby all the time, on his phone, on his TV and on his PC. Its just not happening that he's getting ADMIN to my install. Same for my GF

That is something you should probably ask them on their forums.

[roaku 842]

32 minutes ago, Flippz said:

Yea i know, but apperantly they treat multiple users the same emby treats live tv. They just dont talk about it. I just wish that @Lukewould come in here and give us a final is it happening or not!

 

 

[spaghetti 8]

40 minutes ago, Flippz said:

Yea i know, but apperantly they treat multiple users the same emby treats live tv. They just dont talk about it. I just wish that @Lukewould come in here and give us a final is it happening or not!

Are you looking just for something to watch live tv and that actually just works ? Tivimate has a free version and nothing is faster when it comes to changing channels and the channels always work perfect, the paid version is still only $20 just add it to your device the free version and be done with it. Then use emby for movies and series until emby figures out what they are doing. Everyone is annoyed that live tv has issues on emby including me I get that but in the meantime use what does work, add your m3u in tivimate and be done with it, channels dvr doesn't even come close to how fast tivimate is in fact nothing is as fast. I will start a thread for this with different ways that work for different setups and user needs after I have another coffee  

[denz 501]

4 hours ago, spaghetti said:

Are you looking just for something to watch live tv and that actually just works ? Tivimate has a free version and nothing is faster when it comes to changing channels and the channels always work perfect, the paid version is still only $20 just add it to your device the free version and be done with it. Then use emby for movies and series until emby figures out what they are doing. Everyone is annoyed that live tv has issues on emby including me I get that but in the meantime use what does work, add your m3u in tivimate and be done with it, channels dvr doesn't even come close to how fast tivimate is in fact nothing is as fast. I will start a thread for this with different ways that work for different setups and user needs after I have another coffee  

I will check it out as I am still testing Channels DVR but does it support HDHomeRun. I will have a look now so far lowing Channel DVR I have replaced Emby on the main tv and family loves it they said why haven’t you haven’t you installed it before as everything works the main guide and live tv. We are currently switching between the two until all recordings have been watched 

 

Edit:

Had a look at it this is for advanced users it has far too many options. I will stick to Channels DVR 2-3 seconds channel change I am happy with that

Edited February 13, 2024 by denz

[jasonmcroy 316]

@denzI am curious if you are just checking out the live TV and recording side of Channels or have you imported any other shows? Curious how you feel about the UI in general?

[discovery75 0]

1 hour ago, denz said:

We are currently switching between the two until all recordings have been watched

You should consider just importing your existing recordings directly into Channels:

https://getchannels.com/docs/channels-dvr-server/how-to/local-content/

[discovery75 0]

38 minutes ago, jasonmcroy said:

Curious how you feel about the UI in general?

Have you seen Enhanced Library Browsing? It provides a better experience for libraries that have more content. It's turned off by default since people that just record items tend to have smaller libraries and it doesn't look as good. But also, the default views for large libraries aren't great either. You might want to give this a try.

https://getchannels.com/docs/apps/usage/enhanced-library-browsing/

Edited February 13, 2024 by discovery75

[jasonmcroy 316]

9 minutes ago, discovery75 said:

Have you seen Enhanced Library Browsing? It provides a better experience for libraries that have more content. It's turned off by default since people that just record items tend to have smaller libraries and it doesn't look as good. But also, the default views for large libraries aren't great either. You might want to give this a try.

https://getchannels.com/docs/apps/usage/enhanced-library-browsing/

Yes. I have actually used Channels for the past 5 years. I was more curious about how others felt regarding the UI.

I often jump back and forth between Emby and Channels. The only thing I currently miss in Channels is the Skip Intro feature in Emby. I love the GUI editor for commericial cuts in Channels. 

[denz 501]

Honestly it works great it hasn't missed a beat that is what I am after it's easy to use, yesterday my family picked it up straight away but got stuck trying to do a series for a new show pass is a confusing term. UI could do with a minor refresh currently there is no distinguishing a series recording from normal recording. Emby uses the same indicator as WMC and to me circle and double circle is universal so not sure why they went with an ugly colour for the cell. I am just blown away how fast it starts the recordings on the Ipad and on Android tv your finger hasn't even lifted and it's already on the screen. So the devs have done an outstanding job in the speed and stability whereas in Emby android clients is every time I use it I had to cross fingers will the channel tune or not you know it's not going to tune after it goes over the normal 10 seconds delay. Some do some don't maybe there is something specific to Australian market where's channels DVR has figured it out.  I also like that if something is recording and you click on it prompts you do you want to start at beginning or live. Used that yesterday to go straight live rather than beginning. It's these little details that make a product great. 

I haven't enabled the enhanced-library-browsing yet I just want to test the basics. The server has tone of options.  Theater is good in windows because you can use the windows keys like for example I asked Luke can you when you press the home button it takes you to the default screen so when you get lost you press home, you press recorded tv you get recordings guide button takes to the guide whereas Channels DVR doesn't have a windows client. Emby has lot of potential and areas for improvement just getting tired of asking and sometimes I feel that I am the only one using Live tv in emby. Like TV guide not working properly I must have asked so many times in the last nine years that I am finally over it now that I discovered Channels DVR. It wasn't a problem before as I used WMC in the main living room.

I have tried copying into the recordings folder but it didn't work it does work in the personal media and it organises it like in emby.

I probable should kept quiet now we have turned this topic " To complain about lacking TVnext progress" into Channels DVR review  

[bungee91 133]

15 hours ago, denz said:

I probable should kept quiet now we have turned this topic " To complain about lacking TVnext progress" into Channels DVR review  

You did, however... 

I think we should have a Channels DVR discussion topic, as I recently signed up as well and have been interested for a while.

The other thing is, TvNext does not make Emby more intuitive or feature rich from a user/GUI perspective and at this point we have zero hope or idea if or when that will occur. I'm all for these changes and building the foundation before you put on the polish. However the polish seems to be completely undetermined, fragmented, and overall a pipe dream at this point.

[softworkz 5066]

NEWS!

A final decision is imminent now.

All I can say is that it will be either yes or no - but nothing half-way.

No matter how the outcome - at this point I want to say a big thanks   to all of you for your interest and for supporting this.
Thanks to all the testers who participated in the initial beta for all your work and effort in helping this to become a successfull parrt of Emby.

Also thanks to all the nice and friendly users and community members, moderators, admins and fellow developers who I've had the chance to work with and talk to so far, during the past few years!

Best wishes,
softworkz

[Raptor6L 29]

Excellent news that there is news! Hopefully it'll be positive. Thanks for the effort @softworkz!

With any luck, the hard work that has gone into this will bear fruit for all users that see benefit in it.

Cheers

Chris 

[TMCsw 248]

2 hours ago, softworkz said:

All I can say is that it will be either yes or no - but nothing half-way.

Well if it's no, I may have to 'mend' the cable... 

[Armageus 78]

Even if the decision is yes, it'll be another year before beta And 2 years before it makes stable release