To complain about lacking TVnext progress

[pwhodges 2014]

1 hour ago, ebr said:

The landscape has changed and we'll need to adjust and a LOT of stuff in the server has changed that will need to be addressed.

Sure - and each time this is delayed, more changes happen, and more previously usable work has to be thrown out or modified when it is put in place.

Each delay makes the job more difficult and wastes more of what already existed, which is an argument for getting on with it.

Paul

Edited January 25 by pwhodges

[BillOatman 596]

4 hours ago, ebr said:

But, I'll say again, those of you that think TVNext is just sitting there ready to go into beta are incorrect.  It will take quite some time - and even some re-thinking - before that happens. The landscape has changed and we'll need to adjust and a LOT of stuff in the server has changed that will need to be addressed.

That sums it up well.

[bandit8623 218]

43 minutes ago, BillOatman said:

That sums it up well.

Hey bill guess what now it is obvious.  just admit it wasnt before.

All it takes is for emby to clean up communication.  

Edited January 25 by bandit8623

[Dibbes 514]

21 hours ago, bandit8623 said:

Hey bill guess what now it is obvious.  just admit it wasnt before.

All it takes is for emby to clean up communication.  

yeah, that was suggested a few times:
 

 

[Armageus 78]

On 24/01/2026 at 22:06, arrbee99 said:

Obviously Emby has a carefully planned really really really carefully thought out very very very long range roadmap which we are not privileged to see.

Mostly that seems to be:

 

- Release new feature that the Devs or "Commercial" Customers want

- Spend multiple releases fixing regression issues caused by lack of proper testing process

- Spend refactoring code for this weeks newest release of .NET

[CharlesF 37]

I think we can all agree it’s pretty useless to bitch about this.  It is very clear that live tv is not a priority for emby and they don’t care about those of us that do.  So we either need to use it as it is or move on.  

[denz 501]

The only reason I am still here is because Emby is the best of ok bunch. I still search for something better channels DVR is the closest and it is getting better just they don’t have a win client. feel sorry for softworkz for all his hard work that has been just been thrown down the toilet hopefully he has been rewarded if not not sure why he would support the open source jellyfin project or create his own commercial or open source project

Edited Monday at 01:48 PM by denz

[Sammy 790]

With the death of CableCARD in the U.S., there's probably less demand for LiveTV in Emby. I generally don't use it any longer since I lost my promotion through Spectrum and my wife and I could no longer switch back and forth as "new" customers due to a new customer not being able to get a CableCARD plus the complications of having relatively cheap cell service tied to our Spectrum internet account.

To top it off, SpectrumTV in their infinite wisdom doesn't have a GoogleTV App. Even then, when it was called AndroidTV the rep said we have an Android App and when informed there's a difference and there's no app in the Google Play Store she just repeated herself insisting they had an app for Android.

Needless to say we switched to YTTV and haven't looked back. 

As far as channels goes, it'll read my library but cannot play back HDR 10 or Atmos and I they cannot transcode as smoothly as @softworkzthrottled transcoding solution can or even at all, last I tried anyhow. TVE doesn't have NBC due to NBC's walled garden of DRM. I do subscribe to it for occasional TVE recording with Comskip built in which is actually something Emby could do but Server side.

TL/DR

I use the Emby Universal Android App on all 8 of my Google TV's with 7 of them using just the built in Software which is something I said I would never do years ago but it's so good now on mid to high end Google TV's why not? There's so many sources of LiveTV now it just doesn't need to be a priority for Emby.

[bandit8623 218]

51 minutes ago, Sammy said:

With the death of CableCARD in the U.S., there's probably less demand for LiveTV in Emby. I generally don't use it any longer since I lost my promotion through Spectrum and my wife and I could no longer switch back and forth as "new" customers due to a new customer not being able to get a CableCARD plus the complications of having relatively cheap cell service tied to our Spectrum internet account.

To top it off, SpectrumTV in their infinite wisdom doesn't have a GoogleTV App. Even then, when it was called AndroidTV the rep said we have an Android App and when informed there's a difference and there's no app in the Google Play Store she just repeated herself insisting they had an app for Android.

Needless to say we switched to YTTV and haven't looked back. 

As far as channels goes, it'll read my library but cannot play back HDR 10 or Atmos and I they cannot transcode as smoothly as @softworkzthrottled transcoding solution can or even at all, last I tried anyhow. TVE doesn't have NBC due to NBC's walled garden of DRM. I do subscribe to it for occasional TVE recording with Comskip built in which is actually something Emby could do but Server side.

TL/DR

I use the Emby Universal Android App on all 8 of my Google TV's with 7 of them using just the built in Software which is something I said I would never do years ago but it's so good now on mid to high end Google TV's why not? There's so many sources of LiveTV now it just doesn't need to be a priority for Emby.

i would argue that live tv and hdhomerun is a large user base. at least for me that what i use to view my local antenna channels

[Sammy 790]

38 minutes ago, bandit8623 said:

i would argue that live tv and hdhomerun is a large user base. at least for me that what i use to view my local antenna channels

While I certainly understand this and may one day install my antenna at my new house, OTA is missing a lot of live content. Given the current state of Emby LiveTV Server Side, I'll still use Channels DVR to record if I were to do OTA.

Edited Monday at 04:49 PM by Sammy

[bandit8623 218]

Just now, Sammy said:

While I certainly understand this and may one day install my antenna at my new house, OTA is missing a lot of live content. Given the current state of Emby LiveTV Server Side, I'll still use Channels DVR to record it. This is a server issue and has nothing whatsoever to do with Emby Universal Android App matching Emby AndroidTV App. This complaint belongs in the LiveTV sub, not here.

tvnext very much includes hdhomerun playback.  not sure wha you mean by this.  tvnext is live tv...

[Sammy 790]

Just now, bandit8623 said:

tvnext very much includes hdhomerun playback.  not sure wha you mean by this.  tvnext is live tv...

Yup. Sorry.. I though I was in a different thread.

I was in the test group for TV next but nevertheless there's other improvements Emby has made over the last 5 years that do not go unnoticed.

Only the developers know how many LiveTV users there are and whether it is worth pursuing.

For me? I moved on.

[softworkz 5078]

On 2/23/2026 at 5:53 PM, Sammy said:

Only the developers know how many LiveTV users there are and whether it is worth pursuing.

Guess what? Due to the lack of any kind of telemetry (for stable versions), we have no idea and are up to make guesses, same like anybody else  

[Sammy 790]

3 hours ago, softworkz said:

Guess what? Due to the lack of any kind of telemetry (for stable versions), we have no idea and are up to make guesses, same like anybody else  

Thanks for the clarification!

[Tigga5 39]

18 hours ago, softworkz said:

Guess what? Due to the lack of any kind of telemetry (for stable versions), we have no idea and are up to make guesses, same like anybody else  

So how do you determine the actual number of users consuming guide data that must be reported to GraceNote if there is truly no telemetry? Is that number based on measured usage, or does GraceNote actually accept a "best guess"? Because earlier statements from ebr seem to suggest that this number is known, not estimated.

Edited 2 hours ago by Tigga5

[ebr 16207]

Just now, Tigga5 said:

So how do you determine the actual number of users consuming guide data that must be reported to GraceNote if there is truly no telemetry

Yeah, SW was a little sarcastic in that statement.  We do have some insights (like the above) that normal user's don't.

But, our commitment to not "track" you does make it harder.

[Tigga5 39]

4 minutes ago, ebr said:

Yeah, SW was a little sarcastic in that statement.  We do have some insights (like the above) that normal user's don't.

But, our commitment to not "track" you does make it harder.

Seems like a very misleading statement then when he claims a "lack of any kind of telemetry" when there clearly is some kind of telemetry.

[ebr 16207]

Just now, Tigga5 said:

when there clearly is some kind of telemetry.

We have to know people using certain features because we are charged for that.  Like I said, his statement was exaggerated.

[CharlesF 37]

What confuses me throughout this thread is that people say they have 'moved on', but to what?  If I use IPTV, not every one of my players is android and has TVMate.  I run my servers on Synology, so I'm not even sure if TVNext works on there.  Maybe this is for another thread, but for those that have given up on Emby Live TV, and who use IPTV services, any guidance is appreciated.

[bandit8623 218]

6 minutes ago, CharlesF said:

What confuses me throughout this thread is that people say they have 'moved on', but to what?  If I use IPTV, not every one of my players is android and has TVMate.  I run my servers on Synology, so I'm not even sure if TVNext works on there.  Maybe this is for another thread, but for those that have given up on Emby Live TV, and who use IPTV services, any guidance is appreciated.

i still use emby live tv,  but the only thing it gives me over jellyfin is the guide data for antenna tv. would be nice if emby improved its live tv features and tune times.

Edited 2 hours ago by bandit8623