Intel ARC ?

[neoskateur 11]

Hello guys, just wondering if any support will be provided ? I mean, the AV1 for cheap with intel ARC seems to be a good deal!

Another question, is the AV1 decoding (from the client) working with the smartphone app ? 

Thanks

[Sammy 790]

Can you please be more specific in what you are asking?

[neoskateur 11]

36 minutes ago, Sammy said:

Can you please be more specific in what you are asking?

Maybe it's not a feature request then, I was wondering if Intel ARC GPU are/will be supported ?

[rbjtech 5284]

Av1 for direct play is already supported,  av1 is also supported in software for transcoding so you are maybe referring to is av1 supported in hardware for transcoding ?  If you are, then not yet, but it is on the list but I suspect intels drivers will have a lot to do with the timelines for this ( d3d11).

[neoskateur 11]

14 minutes ago, rbjtech said:

Av1 for direct play is already supported,  av1 is also supported in software for transcoding so you are maybe referring to is av1 supported in hardware for transcoding ?  If you are, then not yet, but it is on the list but I suspect intels drivers will have a lot to do with the timelines for this ( d3d11).

Hum okay so I guess you've answered my questions!
So you can confirm that an av1, if supported on the client side, will be played without transcoding?

Edited October 14, 2022 by neoskateur

[Luke 42083]

12 minutes ago, neoskateur said:

Hum okay so I guess you've answered my questions!
So you can confirm that an av1, if supported on the client side, will be played without transcoding?

Correct yes 

[KnightNZ 3]

Sorry, just wanted to hijack this as I'm not sure my question warranted a new thread.

I've got an old 6th gen Intel box, and while the mostly iGPU manages pretty well, I'd like to beef it up a bit as it doesn't support h265 encoding or the HDR mapping, both of which could be useful. Is putting an ARC A380 into the system going to be a worthwhile exercise or is the surrounding hardware likely to be old enough that it'd be problematic?  Given that the cost of the A380 by itself is less than just a useful CPU upgrade, not including the new mainboard and RAM I'd also need, it's a pretty attractive option.

Also - Luke, just wanted to say thanks so much for offering such fantastic support!

 

[rbjtech 5284]

6 hours ago, KnightNZ said:

Sorry, just wanted to hijack this as I'm not sure my question warranted a new thread.

I've got an old 6th gen Intel box, and while the mostly iGPU manages pretty well, I'd like to beef it up a bit as it doesn't support h265 encoding or the HDR mapping, both of which could be useful. Is putting an ARC A380 into the system going to be a worthwhile exercise or is the surrounding hardware likely to be old enough that it'd be problematic?  Given that the cost of the A380 by itself is less than just a useful CPU upgrade, not including the new mainboard and RAM I'd also need, it's a pretty attractive option.

Also - Luke, just wanted to say thanks so much for offering such fantastic support!

 

A worthy upgrade to just add the A380 imo - the 6th Gen Intel is still a very capable CPU - but as you say, the iGPU is somewhat lacking - especially for 4K.

Remember, even the Gen13 chips do not have an AV1 encoder - the A380 does - and it's very capable.

A combo of the gen 6 with an SSD drive (or ideally NVME) with the A380 will easily be able to transcode 6-10 x 4K streams, maybe more. 

If the Gen13 had an AV1 encoder - I'd say go for the new system - maybe wait for Gen 14 which will do - lol 

[KnightNZ 3]

On 27/01/2023 at 21:26, rbjtech said:

A worthy upgrade to just add the A380 imo - the 6th Gen Intel is still a very capable CPU - but as you say, the iGPU is somewhat lacking - especially for 4K.

Remember, even the Gen13 chips do not have an AV1 encoder - the A380 does - and it's very capable.

A combo of the gen 6 with an SSD drive (or ideally NVME) with the A380 will easily be able to transcode 6-10 x 4K streams, maybe more. 

If the Gen13 had an AV1 encoder - I'd say go for the new system - maybe wait for Gen 14 which will do - lol 

Thanks for the reply. The main OS drive which Emby is running from in the machine is an SSD, but the media itself is served from a NAS. The SSD is only an mSATA unfortunately as that's what the board supports, but dramatically better than a spinning disk obviously.

As long as I can safely handle 2-3 4K streams with a bit of legroom, then that should do me, esp if it gives me some of the extra goodness.

Definitely sounds like the A380 will be the way to go in lieu of buying a bunch of other hardware.

[rbjtech 5284]

14 hours ago, KnightNZ said:

Thanks for the reply. The main OS drive which Emby is running from in the machine is an SSD, but the media itself is served from a NAS. The SSD is only an mSATA unfortunately as that's what the board supports, but dramatically better than a spinning disk obviously.

As long as I can safely handle 2-3 4K streams with a bit of legroom, then that should do me, esp if it gives me some of the extra goodness.

Definitely sounds like the A380 will be the way to go in lieu of buying a bunch of other hardware.

SSD is only for the transcoding temp storage - so that should be fine.

2-3 4K streams with transcoding and tonemapping will easily be handled by the A380 and your current hardware - probably with 100% extra capacity should you need it (~6-8 streams)

[Luke 42083]

@softworkz is looking into this, thanks.

[Luke 42083]

HI, we found a solution and this will be resolved in Emby Server 4.8. If you need immediate relief we'll have a new 4.8 beta server with the fix sometime in the next few days.

[Happy2Play 9783]