Firestick 4K Max - AV1 is transcoding

[VirulentPip 93]

As title says. This device supports AV1 - Device Specifications: Fire TV Streaming Media Player | Amazon Fire TV 

AV1. Hardware accelerated up to 3840x2160p (4K) @60fps, 100Mbps, Main Profile Level 5.1, Color space 8-bit and 10-bit input with HDR10, HDR10+, and HLG.

Yet Emby is transcoding "Converting to compatible codec" Attached logs.

ffmpeg-transcode-e61b5a49-d17b-4f87-b179-ba93f78bb7eb_1.txt

[Luke 42077]

Hi.  Can you try sideloading our standard android app on the same device and see how that compares?

https://emby.media/emby-for-android.html

Thanks.

 

[VirulentPip 93]

32 minutes ago, Luke said:

Hi.  Can you try sideloading our standard android app on the same device and see how that compares?

https://emby.media/emby-for-android.html

Thanks.

 

Direct Plays, albeit it with some stuttering for the first minute* edit - Which is odd cause even if I seek back the same stuttering happens, but not showing when playback on PC, weird. Will test with other AV1 files.  

Edited September 30, 2022 by VirulentPip

[VirulentPip 93]

Update on the above, and also echoing linked thread. 

Firestick Native app = Incompatible Codec
Sideloaded android app = plays but is juddering (I guess due to Software Decoding and not Hardware)
Native App + Nova Video Player = Plays 8bit + 10bit AV1 with hardware decoding - However with the inconveniences of using external player.

Hope it's not too long till Emby player is fixed

 

[rbjtech 5284]

I hope the AndroidTV/FireTV get updated to support AV1 .. or my plans to use AV1 over hevc will need a rethink !

The standard Android App is simply not in the same league as the AndroidTV/FireTV App - I've tried it on multiple occasions now and simply cannot use it as a 'flagship' interface to Emby.

It's usable on a tablet or a phone, but on a large screen TV, the user experience of a quality product is just not there .. 

@ebr

[VirulentPip 93]

4 minutes ago, rbjtech said:

It's usable on a tablet or a phone, but on a large screen TV, the user experience of a quality product is just not there

Agreed with this, I'm not sure how hard it is to make the player see what is capable and to enable it to use the devices HW Acceleration but needs to happen sooner than later. 

I tested my Shield Pro, even with Nova Player to enable actually playing AV1 without transcoding it's only Software encoding and isn't powerful enough, judders. I'd be fine with using the Nova player on 4K Max stick, but Emby just doesn't know what's happening with the file, so resuming playback isn't possible and I've run into a few issues with audio. It's not ideal, so yeah something needs to be done

[rbjtech 5284]

20 minutes ago, VirulentPip said:

Agreed with this, I'm not sure how hard it is to make the player see what is capable and to enable it to use the devices HW Acceleration but needs to happen sooner than later. 

I tested my Shield Pro, even with Nova Player to enable actually playing AV1 without transcoding it's only Software encoding and isn't powerful enough, judders. I'd be fine with using the Nova player on 4K Max stick, but Emby just doesn't know what's happening with the file, so resuming playback isn't possible and I've run into a few issues with audio. It's not ideal, so yeah something needs to be done

Yea I'm not expecting my Shield Pro to be able to play AV1 well in s/w - but hopefully there is a new one soon which has h/w support.