External player best practices - resume content and marking position?

[cwills75 14]

I'm running Emby Theater on Windows 10 with MPC-HC (current dev. build version) along with madVR (latest 159) for video files.  I have added the {path} and {ms} options so it opens the files and resumes them from where they were (or I can pick a chapter thumbnail on the title screen to get it to play from there).  The problem lies in it doesn't save the playback position when closing the file, and marks the file as played.

I have searched quite a bit in the forums and this has been brought up more than a few times to apparently nobody's satisfaction.  I see one person said they were possibly going to write a plugin, but I didn't see any follow-up posts.  This one issue is a massive WAF issue with using Emby Theater.  The posts I've read very quickly get off the topic of trying to resolve this issue and go into "why do you need to use an external player in the first place" to push towards the built-in mpv player.

For me, this is due to using Emby with a projector, and UHD TV users may not know this, but the vast majority of projectors have issues playing back HDR content.  There are multitudes of reasons for this, but the primary one being projectors not being able to hit the peak brightness nit level of even entry level UHD TVs cause tone-mapping issues.  If anybody would like to research this further, there is a giant thread on AVSForum dedicated to this called "Improving MadVR HDR to SDR mapping for projector" which is currently 15,305 posts long spread over 766 pages.  The madVR developer is active there and madVR continues to be improved on for HTPC users, separate from his commercial madVR Envy project.

To the crux of it, why I don't want to use Emby's mpv player and use an external player with madVR is how my projector handles HDR content with certain scenes.  This is primarily scenes where parts of the image are pushed out of the SDR nit range, and there is severe over-saturation and clipping being applied.  There is no combination of settings on the projector to fix this, and a ton of projector owners have this issue.  So regardless of playing back an HDR file on Emby Theater in Windows, or on an Nvidia Shield or other client - if I'm playing back in direct-play mode, triggering HDR mode on the projector, I will have this issue.  I'll attach an image from The Greatest Showman directly off the screen showing the projector's tone-mapping in a problem area, named GS_projector_TM.jpg.  For reference, this is a 120" non-ALR screen, with the phone a couple feet away.  I'll also attach an image showing Emby Theater with MPC-HC as an external player with madVR handling the tone-mapping called GS_madvr_TM.jpg.  Finally, I'll show upload an image with Emby Theater's internal mpv player where I intentionally forced transcoding to see how it handles the tone-mapping called GS_emby_transcode_TM.jpg.

This sort of thing can be seen in a multitude of movies, and with projector users using very large screens compared to TV users, the problem is literally magnified in our eyes and very hard not to see.  The images clearly show Hugh Jackman's face as an Oompa Loompa with the projector in HDR mode, and to a lesser degree, but still there using Emby's tone-mapping in transcoding mode.  Transcoding mode obviously also introduces other issues which aren't really the point.  Nobody wants to be transcoding if they don't have to be.  So that leaves me with mu current setup which 100% fixes this issue, by using an external player and madVR, where I (and other projector users) can tweak the multitude of tone-mapping settings for their specific display's nits and color gamut capabilities.

So now back to external players informing Emby Theater of where they left off.  I've read this used to be done with WMC, but then that changed and wasn't implemented, heard the devs saying where the problems are, other people saying it could be implemented over http, etc., but what I'd like to know is, is there anything currently working right now to fix this?  If so, is there a certain plugin I need or do I need to be using a different external player other than MPC-HC?  If this is still unresolved, could the Emby devs look into getting something implemented?  I get there are tons of external players.  I really don't care which one I'd have to use as long as it would work with madVR and can bitstream audio (most can with either internal or external LAV filters).

 

[cwills75 14]

The simplest option would be Emby Theater having the ability to use madVR, but I don’t know if that’s possible.  If not, using an external player is the only option to fix this.

[Mahinepua 81]

I believe the issue is passing the playback position to and from an external player & the server.

Emby Theatre has built in support to do this with MPV but not all the various external players. There are arguments that can be passed to an external player such as path, time etc but I don’t believe this goes both ways and doesn’t work with all players.

I personally use potplayer which saves the playback position so it’s not an issue with the exception of no recently watched section like in WMC which I had complaints about last Friday night.

WMC did not support resuming with external players either as far as I’m aware.

MPV is pretty good, but a bit tricky to configure unlike external players and seems to darken the picture in my case and not support auto switching between pcm and bitstreaming like LAV filters.

Sit tight and see what the next Theatre update from Emby brings it’s getting better all the time.

Luke is there an ETA?

 

[Luke 42077]

The time can be passed into an external player if you configure the command line arguments for it, it's just getting the time back out of it that's not supported.

There will be a maintenance release soon with an updated mpv, and then sometime after that a whole new Windows app with a better video player.

[cwills75 14]

Just now, Luke said:

The time can be passed into an external player if you configure the command line arguments for it, it's just getting the time back out of it that's not supported.

There will be a maintenance release soon with an updated mpv, and then sometime after that a whole new Windows app with a better video player.

Will the new Windows app be able to use madVR?  If Emby Theater cannot, it doesn't matter what video player it uses if it's sending uncorrected HDR video to a display and the display's HDR tone-mapping is bad.  Many people are using madVR to do HDR->SDR tone-mapping and running their display in SDR mode, but others are using madVR's tone-mapping and setting their display's target nits and dynamic nits, along with using "output video in HDR format" to trigger their display's HDR mode, while using madVR to squeeze the signal in their display's capabilities, usually to handle extreme highlights.

[cwills75 14]

Even besides extreme highlight clipping problems madVR fixes, it can make all HDR content, regardless of what nit level it was mastered at look the same.  Here are some shots from a madVR Envy system playing back 1000/4000/10000 nit content, showing all of it the same, where the tone-mapping on the non-madVR system showing a washed out image and loss of detail in the highlights.  The vast majority of TVs and projectors are like this, and without a video processor like madVR Envy or a HTPC running madVR, there is no other way to correct it.

HDR as a "standard" or whatever state its in, is a complete mess for end-users, and many of us are trying to do what we can with what tools are available, and that involves madVR.

[milindmody 2]

<off topic> Are the horses supposed to look brown or black in color? They always look like the left hand side image "JVC DLA-n7 @ 10000 nits" on my system. 

Is there a way I can setup Emby server to use MadVR and watch it via emby android app on Shield pro? 

Thanks @cwills75for posting this. I was very happy with my brown horses.... looks like they are not supposed to be brown in color 

[cwills75 14]

8 hours ago, milindmody said:

<off topic> Are the horses supposed to look brown or black in color? They always look like the left hand side image "JVC DLA-n7 @ 10000 nits" on my system. 

Is there a way I can setup Emby server to use MadVR and watch it via emby android app on Shield pro? 

Thanks @cwills75for posting this. I was very happy with my brown horses.... looks like they are not supposed to be brown in color 

Depending on your color/gamma settings, they can be either a dark shade of brown to almost black, but the main point is when playing back 1000nit/4000nit/10000nit media, the tone-mapping should properly handle it so they look the same.  That's what madVR is doing here.  There is no way on the Shield Pro to load madVR unfortunately.  Before Madshi started his commerical madVR Envy business, in the older versions you were allowed to capture an external HDMI source, like from an Nvidia Shield into a PC, apply madVR's processing to it, and then play back on your display.  That ended with version 113, but that version has a bug that doesn't allow smooth motion, so many people are using 112b if they want/need smooth motion.  You could achieve this with a PC, a capture card, madVR and another piece of software called VideoProcessor, but you will not have access to many of the newer bells & whistles of the current madVR builds.  It's up to version 162 as of yesterday, and on this last Saturday in 160, Madshi added some really nice clipping roll-off controls.

So for us to all use madVR in its full glory, we need to be running it on a Windows PC/HTPC, and the Emby devs would make many users very happy by allowing our own directshow players, where we could use madVR within Emby instead of being locked to their player.  Here are some screenshots I took today comparing Emby Desktop's HDR->SDR tonemapping to version 162 of madVR.

[cwills75 14]

These last frames were as close as I could get.  If Emby Theater has frame-by-frame advance controls, I don't know what they are.  It's pretty hard to exactly pause on the same spot.

[milindmody 2]

Oh wow! Thanks for this info @cwills75. @Luke Is there a request area where we can ask for this feature in Emby premiere ?

[cwills75 14]

I've tweaked my madVR settings on 162 and have some better overall settings.  There are a variety of torture test scenes other forums use to test out tone-mapping.  Here are my current settings and some screenshots if anyone is interested/like to compare to their tone-mapping in Emby.

 

[cwills75 14]

I don't know if @Luke or one of the other devs can elaborate on why they are hesitant implement madVR into Emby Theater on Windows?  I know Madshi started adding a license.pdf once he started up his commercial business.  Is this preventing you from using madVR?  Madshi has stated elsewhere that he is going to implement a "registration" process for PC users in the near future, which I take to mean it will become a paid product, but I think he's trying to nail down a few issues and take out of beta first.

Emby has support for other 3rd party plugins, even commercial ones like Open Subtitles VIP.  If us end-users knew what the hesitation on Emby utilizing madVR was, other than "why don't you just use the built-in mpv player", some communication between Madshi/Emby/End-users could be established to possibly work on an integrated solution.

[milindmody 2]

51 minutes ago, cwills75 said:

Here are my current settings and some screenshots if anyone is interested/like to compare to their tone-mapping in Emby.

This is awesome! Do you know of any link where I can learn how to setup a HTPC for MadVR  (I read one at AVForums) including how the htpc would output the MadVR processed video to projector via amp in a home theatre setup? 

[cwills75 14]

28 minutes ago, milindmody said:

This is awesome! Do you know of any link where I can learn how to setup a HTPC for MadVR  (I read one at AVForums) including how the htpc would output the MadVR processed video to projector via amp in a home theatre setup? 

There are different ways of doing it depending on your player.  You could install LAV filters globally in Windows and configure a supported player to tie into them, but I just use MPC-HC, which has built-in LAV filters, and I set them up in there under the Internal Filters section in Options.  Unzipped the madVR 0.92.17 files into a madVR folder on the C:, then unzipped the latest beta 162 files onto those, run the install.bat file as admin, and then you can setup MPC-HC to use madVR as your DirectShow Video renderer.

You can setup the Audio decoder LAV filters to bitstream all of your supported formats, and then output your A/V via HDMI to your receiver.  There isn't a good guide for madVR settings as the beta versions change all the time with new options.  Madshi has been implementing a lot of "probably temporary" options for people to test out, and removes/changes them between versions.

You'll want to follow this thread for latest madVR updates:

https://www.avsforum.com/threads/improving-madvr-hdr-to-sdr-mapping-for-projector.2954506/

A general HTPC madVR guide is here:

https://www.avsforum.com/threads/guide-building-a-4k-htpc-for-madvr.2364113/

And then you need to setup Emby Theater with your external player, like MPC-HC to play your files instead of the internal mpv player.

 

 

[Mahinepua 81]

Emby theatre already has support for madvr via external players which is something the Jellyfin team is not interested in providing.

mpv is a pragmatic solution for most people and does have a very good picture quality, more so with tweaking.

If your into the ultimate tonemapping tweaking experience I’m sure madvr is the way to go. I use potplayer and the built in tonemapping is pretty darn good if your goal is to just watch movies.

You might want to look into jriver which is a different beast to emby and more htpc focused but then you’d miss out on all embys advantages.

Emby is pretty hard to beat.

[Dizzy49 99]

@cwills75 @Mahinepua

I've been reading about madvr and Emby for years now, and now that I have a much better desktop setup I thought I would finally look into it.

I'm not 100% clear on what madvr does and/or if I would gain any benefit.  I have two scenarios:

Scenario 1 - My Desktop:
I have a LG 4k HDR10 monitor, and I am using Windows 11 and Emby Theater
I download a lot of content that is HDR and some that is Dolby Vision (I'm praying I get a DV TV for Xmas, and my work laptop has a DV screen for some reason)
Would using madvr improve the colors and things?  Should I use Windows HDR mode while watching/using madvr?  What does madvr do for/with video that isn't HDR?

For this scenario, I set HPC-BEx64 as the External Player, and used the following commands:
{path}
/play
{ms}
/fullscreen
/close

Functionally it appears to work, I'm just not sure about a few things (noted in bold above).

 

Scenario 2 - Every other device:
Pretty much every other device we own right now is 1080p SDR.  Almost all of them using Emby on an Amazon Fire device, or our phones.
Right now I am keeping two versions of MANY shows/movies, a SDR and an HDR version.  My wife doesn't pay any attention and ends up playing the HDR version more often than not and gets really annoyed when it's super dark and she can't tell what is going on.
If I understand correctly madvr could use tone mapping and "correct" the HDR to SDR that isn't super dark.
I believe it would need to be installed on the Emby Server which is Windows 10 running on an i7-7700K@4.2Ghz with 32GB Ram, a SSD for the OS, and a SSD for transcoding.
If I understand correctly, madvr couldn't alter the stream in realtime like it is on my desktop, it would need to transcode the video.  How would I set that up?  Possible to set it so it forces transcode on HDR per login or device (not TV, but device that appears in the Devices section) so I could set "Fire TV 1" to force transcode any HDR, but non HDR would stream direct as normal.

 

[cwills75 14]

5 hours ago, Dizzy49 said:

@cwills75 @Mahinepua

I've been reading about madvr and Emby for years now, and now that I have a much better desktop setup I thought I would finally look into it.

I'm not 100% clear on what madvr does and/or if I would gain any benefit.  I have two scenarios:

Scenario 1 - My Desktop:
I have a LG 4k HDR10 monitor, and I am using Windows 11 and Emby Theater
I download a lot of content that is HDR and some that is Dolby Vision (I'm praying I get a DV TV for Xmas, and my work laptop has a DV screen for some reason)
Would using madvr improve the colors and things?  Should I use Windows HDR mode while watching/using madvr?  What does madvr do for/with video that isn't HDR?

For this scenario, I set HPC-BEx64 as the External Player, and used the following commands:
{path}
/play
{ms}
/fullscreen
/close

Functionally it appears to work, I'm just not sure about a few things (noted in bold above).

 

Scenario 2 - Every other device:
Pretty much every other device we own right now is 1080p SDR.  Almost all of them using Emby on an Amazon Fire device, or our phones.
Right now I am keeping two versions of MANY shows/movies, a SDR and an HDR version.  My wife doesn't pay any attention and ends up playing the HDR version more often than not and gets really annoyed when it's super dark and she can't tell what is going on.
If I understand correctly madvr could use tone mapping and "correct" the HDR to SDR that isn't super dark.
I believe it would need to be installed on the Emby Server which is Windows 10 running on an i7-7700K@4.2Ghz with 32GB Ram, a SSD for the OS, and a SSD for transcoding.
If I understand correctly, madvr couldn't alter the stream in realtime like it is on my desktop, it would need to transcode the video.  How would I set that up?  Possible to set it so it forces transcode on HDR per login or device (not TV, but device that appears in the Devices section) so I could set "Fire TV 1" to force transcode any HDR, but non HDR would stream direct as normal.

 

For playback on Windows, I've never enabled Windows HDR mode except for gaming.  For scenario 1, using madVR will primarily come down to how does it look vs. your display's built-in HDR tonemapping.  With a HDR stream, somewhere the HDR tonemapping needs to be done.  It can be done in your display, sending it a HDR signal, in madVR, then sending your display a SDR signal, or inside Emby itself, using Emby Theater.  I wouldn't recommend using Emby Theater for this as it's pretty fugly in some areas.  Once they update their mpv player, it should get better.  Depending on your display, you probably can adjust settings within it for SDR and HDR (hopefully).  If you can adjust the HDR image to your liking while sending it HDR content, that is the easiest solution.  I'm using a LG CX OLED 55" as my main PC gaming display and it handles HDR relatively well.  There are some scenes, like the fire in the exhaust in Mad Max Fury Road, and others that it doesn't do that great, but overall, it's OK.  If you have any way of calibrating your display, that will give you the best results, but if you don't have the necessary calibration hardware, it may not be enough of an improvement post-calibration for the purchase cost.  That's entirely up to you.

If you feel your display's HDR tonemapping is lacking, you can use madVR with Emby and an external player as you are.  The latest builds of madVR have waaaaaaaaaay to many settings, so your best bet on tweaking them is in the AVForum/AVSForums dedicated to that.  Madshi did say he's going to remove a lot of these settings at some point as they are temporary for testing to see what is working best for most people.  To me, the main point of madVR is to #1 - make things look right, so certain aspects of the tonemapping don't look overly saturated or wrong colors, and #2 - to reduce/eliminate highlight clipping and shadow crush in blacks as much as possible.  It does have other features that I really don't use that much, but they mostly correlate to your question of what does madVR do to non-HDR content.  For SDR content, it won't tonemap anything, but there are other settings, such as debanding, scaling, sharpening, etc., that you can use on both SDR and HDR content.  You can also setup profiles in madVR and apply settings based on the input video.  Like if it is SD resolution, use certain scaling/sharpening settings, but for HD use other settings, and UHD use other settings, or no settings (for scaling/sharpening/etc.).

For scenario 2, madVR won't be used at all on your server.  Emby server will do the tonemapping.  You only need to keep one version of each movie, the HDR copy.  Once Emby server is setup right, any non-HDR devices that play HDR material will get tonemapped on the server so they look right on the client.  I'll attach my Emby server transcoding settings on how they should be set.  The number of HDR->SDR streams you can simultaneously transcode and tonemap will be limited to your hardware.  You didn't mention your GPU, but if you are using an Nvidia based GPU, like a RTX series, they are out of the box limited to 3 streams at once because Nvidia wants you to buy their insanely expensive Quadro cards that are completely unnecessary for this sort of work.  You can install the NVENC patch from here, and remove that 3 stream limit.

https://github.com/keylase/nvidia-patch

Then the number of streams is "mostly" limited to your available GPU RAM.  A lowly 3060 Ti with 12GB of GPU RAM is a better fit for this than an RTX 3080 with 8GB of RAM.  The extra speed on the 3080 doesn't outweigh the RAM on the 3060 Ti. 

[cwills75 14]

As an update to this thread in general, I've moved off of using Emby Theater with an external player and madVR.  The WAF is too low, and losing Emby's OSD during playback is very annoying.  The current setup is running my Nvidia Shield Pro and Apple TV 4K into my HTPC, allowing madVR to do the HDR->SDR tonemapping, and then outputting to my beamer.  I'd just use the Nvidia Shield Pro since it (and Emby's app on there) handles high bitrate HDR/DV better than the ATV 4K (along with lossless audio), but the ATV 4K can be set to output all content (including SDR) as LLDV Dolby Vision, which gives me a nice brightness boost for SDR material on the beamer vs. the Shield Pro.  Unfortunately the Emby ATV app is godawlful with some of my high bitrate HDR/DV material and stutters like crazy, and the ATV doesn't do lossless audio like the Shield Pro, so I bounce back and forth.  I use the ATV for SDR IPTV and SDR Emby media, and the Shield Pro for HDR/DV media.

Setup like this, then all media being fed into the HTPC is HDR, so madVR processes all of it.  The HDFury Vertex2 in the setup uses some EDID tricks to allow my Shield Pro and ATV 4K to think my beamer is Dolby Vision capable even though it isn't.  This is working very well, and with the LLDV DV "hack" of the Vertex 2, is allowing things I cannot do natively on the HTPC with Emby Theater/external player/madVR, so I'm sticking with it.  In general now, I process my DV media to be profile 8.1 (8.06) compliant with a HDR10 fall-back layer for non-DV clients.  It will play DV profile 5 also, which normally looks purple/green.  Here's the setup flowchart if anybody is interested.  As the HTPC/madVR introduces lag, I'm using a separate HDMI output from the V2 to the beamer when playing games from the PS5/Nintendo Switch that is then lag-free.

[Luke 42077]

What would it take to get you back on to using the internal player?

[Dizzy49 99]

15 hours ago, cwills75 said:

For playback on Windows, I've never enabled Windows HDR mode except for gaming.  For scenario 1, using madVR will primarily come down to how does it look vs. your display's built-in HDR tonemapping.  With a HDR stream, somewhere the HDR tonemapping needs to be done.  It can be done in your display, sending it a HDR signal, in madVR, then sending your display a SDR signal, or inside Emby itself, using Emby Theater.  I wouldn't recommend using Emby Theater for this as it's pretty fugly in some areas.  Once they update their mpv player, it should get better.  Depending on your display, you probably can adjust settings within it for SDR and HDR (hopefully).  If you can adjust the HDR image to your liking while sending it HDR content, that is the easiest solution.  I'm using a LG CX OLED 55" as my main PC gaming display and it handles HDR relatively well.  There are some scenes, like the fire in the exhaust in Mad Max Fury Road, and others that it doesn't do that great, but overall, it's OK.  If you have any way of calibrating your display, that will give you the best results, but if you don't have the necessary calibration hardware, it may not be enough of an improvement post-calibration for the purchase cost.  That's entirely up to you.

Thank you so much for your detailed reply.  I appreciate the hardware diagram too!

On my desktop I have 3x LG 27BK85U-W monitors.  They are 4K HDR10 and I picked them up for a steal.  They have a HDR Effect option that I like as it makes things a bit brighter, but it gives me really good whites.  Since this is my work PC as well I need to be able to use it with normal Windows 11 as well.  Most of the other settings look too dingy or yellow.  When I turn on HDR in Windows the dark images (the cover for RIngs of Power and Westworld) look great, but the cover of Forger in Fire the lighter yellow flame is totally blown out, as are other light yellow/blue/white.  I will also note that when I switch to HDR in Windows my monitor switches to HDR mode and gives me Vivid, Game, Cinema and Standard options.  All of them except Vivid look way too blue, Vivid looks like the colors are right, it's just too bright.  If I turn the brightness down from 100 to about 40 it looks pretty decent in Emby, but regular windows doesn't look great.

I'm jealous of your monitor   My work laptop actually has a DV screen, I wish I could use it but it's too small to usually regularly.  I'd love an OLED monitor, but they are stupid expensive.  I can get a 65" OLED TV for the price of a 32" OLED Monitor (eyeroll).  My 3x 27" monitors already take up quite a bit of space, so I'm not sure I could handle a bunch of 32" monitors.

I've debated trying to get an inexpensive 35-42" OLED TV and try to use it as a monitor.  It's been a LONG time since I've used a TV has a computer screen, and the results weren't great.  I need readable text for my job  

The External Player had some issues with some subtitles on my anime, that's a big problem for me since I watch quite a bit of anime.  I wish there was a way to make it so the external player on played under certain circumstances.  Enabled on the Library and HDR vs SDR?

 

 

15 hours ago, cwills75 said:

For scenario 2, madVR won't be used at all on your server.  Emby server will do the tonemapping.  You only need to keep one version of each movie, the HDR copy.  Once Emby server is setup right, any non-HDR devices that play HDR material will get tonemapped on the server so they look right on the client.  I'll attach my Emby server transcoding settings on how they should be set.  The number of HDR->SDR streams you can simultaneously transcode and tonemap will be limited to your hardware.  You didn't mention your GPU, but if you are using an Nvidia based GPU, like a RTX series, they are out of the box limited to 3 streams at once because Nvidia wants you to buy their insanely expensive Quadro cards that are completely unnecessary for this sort of work.  You can install the NVENC patch from here, and remove that 3 stream limit.

I don't have a video card installed in the server, it uses whatever is on the i7-7700K.  I am using the same settings you have.  I'll do some testing to see what it's actually doing, I installed the Diagnostics plugin that will give me better info on what's going on.  I know the last HDR movie we tried to watch was unwatchable on our "big tv" that is just 1080p SDR.

I had a chuckle at your 3060 vs 3080 comparison.  I only have a 2080 in my desktop that I use for gaming, lol.  I'm not ready to drop $400+ on a video card just for transcoding right now.  Maybe if I can see some real difference, or more importantly, my WIFE can see a difference.  She was PISSED at how dark the last GoT was, you couldn't make out a single thing in that big fight scene.

We want to replace our TV with a 4k HDR, but we have a 98" TV, and dropping down to a 70 or even 85" is a hard pill to swallow.  I was just at Walmart and they had an 85" Hisense 4k DV for $725.  I could probably swing that.  $5k for a Samsung 85" QuantumDot, not so much.  I THINK even a "budget" TV like the Hisense would be a decent upgrade in picture quality over what we have now that we MIGHT be ok with losing a bit of size.

 

12 hours ago, Luke said:

What would it take to get you back on to using the internal player?

I assume that was directed at @cwills75
He noted that an update to mpv would likely improve the tonemapping in Emby Theater.  I think that correct tone mapping is the major reason people are looking so much at madVR and external players.  If that could be greatly improved I think it would make a huge difference.

[Dizzy49 99]

Ok WTH!  Now Emby won't play anything with the External player!  I played an anime directly and changed the filter.  But then I changed it back.  So not sure how/why that would affect the player being triggered.

[Dizzy49 99]

Figured it out.  I didn't re-enable madVR correctly in my player.

I didn't realize that doing this autoswitches windows into HDR mode.  This is perfect, now I can use Windows w/o HDR and it looks good, and it will switch to HDR mode and use my monitor settings with the lower Brightness and it looks beautiful!

 

@Luke
That's something else you can do.  If it's HDR content, switch Windows into HDR mode for the screen Emby Theater is on.

[Luke 42077]

Our new windows app that is coming should help with this. Thanks 

[Dizzy49 99]

2 hours ago, Luke said:

Our new windows app that is coming should help with this. Thanks 

I look forward to it.  Any ETA?

[Luke 42077]

No eta but we are working on it.