Plugin - Chapter Editor (ChapterApi)

[podonnell 47]

4 minutes ago, TeamB said:

the first post of this thread should cover most of the info you are asking about.

Hi,

I did read that but it does not seem to cover anything about how/if this clashes with the built in Intro Detection job at all, and if I should only be using one of them.
Primarily that options page and if I should avoid that unless I want to entirely replace the built-in one.

I do see some info on getting the database file that I now understand having toyed with the plugin. I think I will try to load that and see if it fixes my problem.

Ideally I just want to use this to fine tune any titles that are not picked up by the built-in intro detection job.

[podonnell 47]

From some playing around, it seems like this is a separate plugin and I would not want to use the checkboxes on the options page unless I want to override the built-in functionality.

I did load the database and saw a few series connect, but the one I am looking for is not currently part of the DB.

It seems like the automated way to 'detect' is to mark an episode myself, extract the data and then upload it to apply to other episodes of the series. However, the screenshots in the first image are not something that I'm seeing in the plugin. For example, this:

 

But mine looks like this after I mark intro and outro separately:

I don't see a way to download the start - end, is that functionality different now?

[TeamB 2438]

10 hours ago, podonnell said:

I did read that but it does not seem to cover anything about how/if this clashes with the built in Intro Detection job at all, and if I should only be using one of them.
Primarily that options page and if I should avoid that unless I want to entirely replace the built-in one.

It will override the built-in one if run on the same episodes.

You can target just the epipsodes you want, just set up the into audio fingerprints for the series you want to target.

6 hours ago, podonnell said:

I did load the database and saw a few series connect, but the one I am looking for is not currently part of the DB.

you can create an audio fingerprint manually for just the series you want.

6 hours ago, podonnell said:

But mine looks like this after I mark intro and outro separately:

go back one level to the season view.

[podonnell 47]

On 9/13/2024 at 5:21 AM, TeamB said:

It will override the built-in one if run on the same episodes.

You can target just the epipsodes you want, just set up the into audio fingerprints for the series you want to target.

you can create an audio fingerprint manually for just the series you want.

go back one level to the season view.

Thank you, that was exactly what I needed.

Went back and was able to extract the fingerprint, and ran the job on the entire season.
However, all of the other episodes have X in found column.
I believe this is due to different dialogue on top of the intro theme, so the audio data might not match closely enough.

Is there any type of 'sensitivity' setting at all, or am I pretty much out of luck unless these match up close enough?

[TeamB 2438]

On 9/18/2024 at 10:33 AM, podonnell said:

Thank you, that was exactly what I needed.

Went back and was able to extract the fingerprint, and ran the job on the entire season.
However, all of the other episodes have X in found column.
I believe this is due to different dialogue on top of the intro theme, so the audio data might not match closely enough.

Is there any type of 'sensitivity' setting at all, or am I pretty much out of luck unless these match up close enough?

Make sure you select only the time period with intro music, if you add a few seconds either side it will be too different to match.

With some TV shows the intro music is just too different between episodes.

Check the settings, there is a threshold there from memory.

[podonnell 47]

6 hours ago, TeamB said:

Make sure you select only the time period with intro music, if you add a few seconds either side it will be too different to match.

With some TV shows the intro music is just too different between episodes.

Check the settings, there is a threshold there from memory.

Yep, threshold set to 0.9 and moving it back a second nailed it. Just detected all my intros.

Thank you!!

[ados8000 50]

Annoyed I didn't know this plugin existed, wow fine work sir.
I've been able to fix multiple series that had incorrect intros for assorted reasons.

Have a feature request, any chance we can have a setting to automatically download from URL.
I have the URL pointing to my file server so it would be nice when I update the zip I don't have to manually download and import.

Thank you for this amazing plugin.

Edit: additionally, it would be nice if the plugin had a dedicated tab for flagged episodes.
I imagine it would flag episodes whereby the intro was missing and/or x percentage too far into the episode for which is a likely error needing fixing.

Edited September 21, 2024 by ados8000
Extra request

[TeamB 2438]

@ados8000yes both options are possible.

I just need to find the time to do it

I have not looked at this plugin for a long time now, I will try soon to investigate this.

[podonnell 47]

On 9/13/2024 at 5:21 AM, TeamB said:

go back one level to the season view.

I have a series that auto detected 9 out of 10 episodes correctly, but my OCD wants to go back and fill in the first one.

However, I am not seeing anything on the Season level...

 

What is required to get this section to populate? I have perfect intro chapters in a specific episode showing up, but I just need to extract that chroma data...

 

Thanks!

[TeamB 2438]

3 hours ago, podonnell said:

I have a series that auto detected 9 out of 10 episodes correctly, but my OCD wants to go back and fill in the first one.

However, I am not seeing anything on the Season level...

What is required to get this section to populate? I have perfect intro chapters in a specific episode showing up, but I just need to extract that chroma data...

Thanks!

what server version?

[podonnell 47]

8 hours ago, TeamB said:

what server version?

Version 4.8.10.0

Although, the built in intro detector likely ran when I added this media a month or two ago.

Edited October 19, 2024 by podonnell

[TeamB 2438]

does it show any of your shows seasons or is it just some that are not showing up.

I dont know why it is doing it for you.

 

[ados8000 50]

23 hours ago, podonnell said:

Version 4.8.10.0

Although, the built in intro detector likely ran when I added this media a month or two ago.

Maybe good old remove and reinstall?

[podonnell 47]

On 10/19/2024 at 4:53 AM, TeamB said:

does it show any of your shows seasons or is it just some that are not showing up.

I dont know why it is doing it for you.

 

It looks like I have a vast number of seasons that show nothing. I do have some that have populated the data, and I've been able to go to some seasons and extract the json file and apply it to the season as a whole.

However it seems like more than half of my content does not show anything at the season level.

Is there a chance this is tied to chapters not being present? I didn't see if the shows I looked at had that data or not, just trying to think of a cause.

[TeamB 2438]

It should still work with no chapters at all

 

Bring up the Browser console (hit f12) and look in the console output tab for any errors.

Also have a look in the Emby Server log for any errors.

 

 

 

 

[podonnell 47]

11 hours ago, TeamB said:

It should still work with no chapters at all

 

Bring up the Browser console (hit f12) and look in the console output tab for any errors.

Also have a look in the Emby Server log for any errors.

 

 

 

 

No errors in developer console, and not seeing anything jumping out in emby server log. I would presume it would be around this part:

> 2024-10-22 12:51:26.868 Info ChapterApi - ChapterApiEndpoint: ChapterApi - ChapterApiEndpoint Loaded
2024-10-22 12:51:28.853 Info ChapterApi - ChapterApiEndpoint: ChapterApi - ChapterApiEndpoint Loaded
2024-10-22 12:51:29.428 Info ChapterApi - ChapterApiEndpoint: ChapterApi - ChapterApiEndpoint Loaded
2024-10-22 12:51:29.428 Info ChapterApi - ChapterApiEndpoint: Severance : Item Type(Series)
2024-10-22 12:51:29.429 Info ChapterApi - ChapterApiEndpoint: ChapterApi - ChapterApiEndpoint Loaded
2024-10-22 12:51:29.429 Info ChapterApi - ChapterApiEndpoint: GetItemPath
2024-10-22 12:51:29.429 Info ChapterApi - ChapterApiEndpoint: GetCollectionFolders: Series(13972,False)
2024-10-22 12:51:29.429 Info ChapterApi - ChapterApiEndpoint: AddingPathItem: Severance(13972,False,True)
2024-10-22 12:51:29.429 Info ChapterApi - ChapterApiEndpoint: TopParentItem: Series(6,True,True)
2024-10-22 12:51:29.429 Info ChapterApi - ChapterApiEndpoint: AddingCollectionItem:Series(5,False,True)
2024-10-22 12:51:29.429 Info ChapterApi - ChapterApiEndpoint: ChapterApi - ChapterApiEndpoint Loaded
2024-10-22 12:51:30.320 Info ChapterApi - ChapterApiEndpoint: ChapterApi - ChapterApiEndpoint Loaded

 

 

Isn't there a job I need to run for it to detect intros or something? "Process New Episodes" ?
I typically use the built-in editor. I'm guessing perhaps the ones I've worked with in the past have had chapters built in to the files. Whereas all the ones I'm looking at now do not.
Is there a way I can run the analyze just on a single series? I don't believe there's a way to edit Emby's built-in intro detector.

[TeamB 2438]

Sorry, I don't know what is going on.

Unfortunately there are no docs on how to use the plugin, there are a few short hints in the first post put apart from that it's trial and error for a user.

I don't think many people are using this plugin any longer, or even initially, I wrote it as a way to put a bunch of research I had done arround audio fingerprinting into practice and work on a way to target episodes. Technically I think it is a superior approach to the built-in one however it does require more from a user to set it up.

I would say just delete the plugin and move on with your life.

[rbjtech 5284]

9 hours ago, TeamB said:

I don't think many people are using this plugin any longer, or even initially, I wrote it as a way to put a bunch of research I had done arround audio fingerprinting into practice and work on a way to target episodes. Technically I think it is a superior approach to the built-in one however it does require more from a user to set it up.

They are likely not using it for Detection agreed, but as it's the only method to edit existing detected Intro's on the core 'implementation' then I believe it's used a lot for that function.

Agree on the superiority of the fingerprint detection method used, it had great possibilities to be used for 'Previously On' segments and all sorts of other hard to detect segments but as you say, without mass user involvement and contributions, it's effectiveness was limited.

[podonnell 47]

When I searched about a month back, there was certainly nothing like this.

For me, the built-in detector works very well but just misses some episodes sometimes. I would love to know why the season view isn't working for most of my content, because it would be great to grab that fingerprint for easy fixes. But I'm also able to just add the IntroStart and IntroEnd chapters manually without too much trouble if it's just one or two episodes messed up.

[TeamB 2438]

6 hours ago, podonnell said:

When I searched about a month back, there was certainly nothing like this.

nothing like what?

7 hours ago, podonnell said:

I would love to know why the season view isn't working for most of my content,

if there are no errors then it has something to do with the actual media items in emby. you could try and work out what is different between them.

i could look into it but the only way really is for me to get a copy of your emby server library.db file so i can see if i can replicate the issue. if you are ok with me having a copy of your emby lib file zip and pm it to me.

[podonnell 47]

On 10/23/2024 at 4:15 PM, TeamB said:

nothing like what?

if there are no errors then it has something to do with the actual media items in emby. you could try and work out what is different between them.

i could look into it but the only way really is for me to get a copy of your emby server library.db file so i can see if i can replicate the issue. if you are ok with me having a copy of your emby lib file zip and pm it to me.

1) I meant nothing like this plugin that I could find. This one seemed to be cream of the crop at least.

2) I figured it out! I was not using season folders for my shows, so they were all lumped into a single folder. As soon as I moved a show into its own season folders, this lit up. Hopefully this helps someone in the future!

 

Edited October 24, 2024 by podonnell

[TeamB 2438]

2 hours ago, podonnell said:

1) I meant nothing like this plugin that I could find. This one seemed to be cream of the crop at least.

this plugin has been out for close to 2 years or so

2 hours ago, podonnell said:

2) I figured it out! I was not using season folders for my shows, so they were all lumped into a single folder. As soon as I moved a show into its own season folders, this lit up. Hopefully this helps someone in the future!

The plugin uses a lot of "ParentID" and ParentContainer logic so that might be causing issues in the internal queries. I don't use flat structures (i.e. everything in the same dir) so I would not have tested that when creating the plugin.

Glad you identified the reason.

[Kurt13 11]

Hi,

I have music concerts with chapters and I would like to rename each chapter to the according music name.

For what I understood, this plugin allows to do that but I can't find it when I go to Plugins (Emby) - Catalog.

 

Thanks

[Jutsch80 9]

Am I overlooking something or is there no way to actually edit chapters (for example the intro times) and the only option is to create new chapters and delete the old ones which sounds super tedious if having to be done for many episodes. For example the core intro detection basically  detected all the intros of the second season of the office wrong. Third season seems to work again but it would be nice to at least edit the times it created 

[rbjtech 5284]

Agreed - editing intro chapters is a little tedious - especially vs the original Introskip plugin where you could just overwrite the value.  You could also clear a seasons or an entire shows intros on the click of a button (and of course you could do the same with credits as it detected those too) ..

After years of the original Introskip core feature 'replacing' the plugin, these simple but time saving features have never been implemented - a real shame imo.

btw - without the Chapter API from a 3rd party - you would not be able to edit the Intro's at all !   

Edited November 14, 2024 by rbjtech