Very Newbie with Emby

[zfrenchy 12]

Hi everyone,

I am very new with Emby, just installed the app in my Unraid server.

I have a big collection of DVD and Blu-ray, after discovering some DVD going bad due to a bad layer, I decided to backup all my library to my server using Emby.

Here is my questions, again ... I am a newbie :
- What software to rip my DVD or BD ?

- what format de Rip ? mkv, avi, ISO for working with Emby ?

- how to save all of the disc ? langage, feature, extra ....

[Abobader 3464]

Hello zfrenchy,

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[pwhodges 2012]

MakeMKV is the go-to software: https://www.videohelp.com/software/MakeMKV (NB, the obvious domain: www.makemkv.com appears to be suspended - it looks as if it is Russian...).  The name answers your other question!

Paul

[zfrenchy 12]

Is MakeMKV will save all of the disc ?   extra, languages ... ?

 

Like a blu-Ray version of the movie Alien has a lot of making off features, I will like to backup that (big fan of Alien here)

 

 

Edited April 24, 2022 by zfrenchy

[Luke 42078]

41 minutes ago, zfrenchy said:

Is MakeMKV will save all of the disc ?   extra, languages ... ?

 

Like a blu-Ray version of the movie Alien has a lot of making off features, I will like to backup that (big fan of Alien here)

 

 

Hi, yes MakeMKV is very robust and supports all of that.

[roaku 842]

1 hour ago, zfrenchy said:

Is MakeMKV will save all of the disc ?   extra, languages ... ?

 

Like a blu-Ray version of the movie Alien has a lot of making off features, I will like to backup that (big fan of Alien here)

 

 

Yes, MakeMKV copies everything with a minimum running time that you can configure.

Also, it makes a bit for bit copy of the video and audio data. There's no additional compression, so it's common to use Handbrake or similar tools after MakeMKV to get a significantly smaller final file at low cost to quality.

And I tell you there are dozens of us special features enjoyers. Dozens!

 

Edited April 24, 2022 by roaku

[MBSki 1114]

2 hours ago, pwhodges said:

MakeMKV is the go-to software: https://www.videohelp.com/software/MakeMKV (NB, the obvious domain: www.makemkv.com appears to be suspended - it looks as if it is Russian...).  The name answers your other question!

Wow, it's still suspended!? I never realized it was Russian. That's too bad.

[zfrenchy 12]

WOWWW

Just rip my first BD, The blues brothers.  MakeMKV is creating a tons of files, some small and some very big,  I am guessing that are the movie and features/extra.

 

Now, in Emby, I see only a tons of files, no menu or list of features like I see in your photo.  How I arrange/do/make my files to looks like your ?

 

Also, the files are something like The Blues Brothers_t00.mkv, The Blues Brothers_t01.mkv, The Blues Brothers_t02.mkv, The Blues Brothers_t03.mkv ...

How I know what is it, should I watch all of that and change the metadata in Emby for each one ? 

[pwhodges 2012]

You need to rename the files according to Emby's preferred system (the more closely you stick to the recommendations, both for file names and directory structure, the less trouble you will have - just a hint!").  It is trivial to watch just a moment of each file (or check its length) to determine which is the actual movie, and which ones are extras.

For movies:

https://support.emby.media/support/solutions/articles/44001159102-movie-naming

For (TV) series:

https://support.emby.media/support/solutions/articles/44001159110-tv-naming

It may be worth while to go to TMDB (for movies) and TVDB (for series) to check what name and date they prefer, at least until you are used to it.

Paul

Edited April 24, 2022 by pwhodges

[roaku 842]

@zfrenchy

For the movie itself, just follow the Emby naming conventions and Emby will match up your movie to the metadata on sites like The Movie DB.

For the extras, that part is a more manual process for sure.

If you're lucky, the extra is on The Movie DB, with description, art, and everything:

https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/401785-the-stories-behind-the-making-of-the-blues-brothers

The next place to check is highdefdigest to try to match up your files to content by their length:

https://bluray.highdefdigest.com/3271/bluesbrothers.html

mkvtoolnix is a useful app for combining multiple files into one longer one to cut down on the number of individual movie files.

For missing art, I use GIMP to add text to movie posters from The Movie DB or The Poster DB.

Check out the 'Movie Extras' section here to see how to set up your extras as part of your main movie.

I put the extras under their Movie, but I've also set up a dedicated Emby library for my special features to make them easier to find and watch and to get around current limitations to how the Emby's Extras feature works, and I describe that process here:

 

Edited April 24, 2022 by roaku

[zfrenchy 12]

you meant, all I need to do is just rename all the files by the right video title ... THAT IS WORK !

[arrbee99 1815]

There are also hints you might come across in the MakeMKV forum. Sometimes you'll get several copies of the same movie where the only difference is the language. So that rolling summary you get for Star Wars 'A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away', you get a 25GB version with that in  English and another 25GB version with that in Spanish.

Also, as mentioned elsewhere, ripping 4K movies, you'll need special drives with specific firmware to be able to do those.

[zfrenchy 12]

Thank you all for the prompt answers.

 

You are mentioning the Emby naming conventions ... Can you tel me more about that ?

[zfrenchy 12]

doing the answer ... find it !

 

https://support.emby.media/support/solutions/articles/44001159102-movie-naming

[pwhodges 2012]

I linked the two main articles on them just above...

Basically, for movies, have a main directory "Movies" which you make a library from.  In that directory you add a new directory for each movie with the name and date in brackets; in there goes the movie (with the same name) and a folder called "extras" in which you dump all the extras.  There are more things to learn if a movie is in two parts (the recommendation is to join them!) or has multiple versions (e.g. director's cut) - but these are not necessarily handled quite as you'd expect.

For series, have another base directory for your library, with a directory for each series, and a sub directory in that for each season (even if only one).  Episode names are best given with series name, followed by season and episode number in one of several formats - I use s01e02 for instance. 

Paul

[zfrenchy 12]

STOP the train !

 

Just saw that ...

DVD and Blu-ray file formats

Dvd and Blu-ray folder structures are also supported. To be recognized as a dvd structure, the folder must contain either a VIDEO_TS subfolder, or a VIDEO_TS.ifo file. To be recognized as a blu-ray structure, the folder must contain a BDMV subfolder.

\Movies\Alien (1979)\VIDEO_TS.IFO
\Movies\Léon (1994)\VIDEO_TS.IFO
\Movies\Scarface (1983)\VIDEO_TS.IFO

 

Is that mean I don't need to rip in MKV, but just copy the VIDEO_TS.IFO and Emby with read it with all menu and features/extra in the right place ?

[roaku 842]

3 minutes ago, zfrenchy said:

STOP the train !

 

Just saw that ...

DVD and Blu-ray file formats

Dvd and Blu-ray folder structures are also supported. To be recognized as a dvd structure, the folder must contain either a VIDEO_TS subfolder, or a VIDEO_TS.ifo file. To be recognized as a blu-ray structure, the folder must contain a BDMV subfolder.

\Movies\Alien (1979)\VIDEO_TS.IFO
\Movies\Léon (1994)\VIDEO_TS.IFO
\Movies\Scarface (1983)\VIDEO_TS.IFO

 

Is that mean I don't need to rip in MKV, but just copy the VIDEO_TS.IFO and Emby with read it with all menu and features/extra in the right place ?

The Emby team usually advises against this. The support is limited and they don't intend to expand it.

But it will somewhat work if you have a way to remove the encryption.

Edited April 24, 2022 by roaku

[pwhodges 2012]

I would say that it is worth the slight trouble to use Make MKV and rename the files.  Using the original disk formats is not well supported (I doubt you'll get menus for instance - even stand-alone players have trouble with them!), and in the end you'll probably want to rip anyway (which can, admittedly, be done from the directly copied files).

Paul

Edited April 24, 2022 by pwhodges

[zfrenchy 12]

help me Emby, you are my only hope ...

 

[arrbee99 1815]

Also, if you want, in MakeMKV you can choose to remove the encryption and basically copy the whole disk as is (end up with BDMV files etc), or you can select certain items from the disk and just keep certain languages and get them as mkv's directly.

You can also, if you want, compress the mkv's later with Handbrake (or similar). Some wouldn't dream of compressing and hence loss of quality while some, like me, do compress, cause we can't tell the difference anyway.

[zfrenchy 12]

I should buy a second DVD/BD player, because this one will be dead very quickly to rip all my collection.

[arrbee99 1815]

In that case check out the recommended 4K drives on MakeMKV's forum. Don't know if you have any, and the rips take up a LOT of space, but might be worth thinking ahead.

[zfrenchy 12]

@arrbee99

 

Yes? how to do, cannot find any option in MakeMkv.

[arrbee99 1815]

How to do what exactly ? Do you mean this -

If you want to just decrypt and save you just put the disk in and start MakeMKV. Make sure Decrypt is checked. When its ready click on the second icon in the top left and save it where you want -

 

If you want to save as MKVs you insert disk and start. Make sure Decrypt is checked. When its ready you click on the big image of the disc in the middle of the display and it'll do some stuff and give you a list of MKV's -

which gives -

and here you can decide where to save it. You can also decide which mkv's to keep (check / uncheck). I'm not an extras person so I just go for the movies. There might be more than one. For TV series there will be several.

[zfrenchy 12]

@arrbee99

 

Thank you so much to take screenshots, big help !!!

 

This community is great !