How i can lock Custom Made Collections so they don't get deleted?

[Romek123 42]

How i can lock Custom Made Collections so they don't get deleted?

As title says. I have tons of collections and they are all perfectly fine created abd i love it.

But i want to add some additional Colelctions for Movieverses like Wizarding World, Marvel etc.

I created them all and it worked great for a while, but now they are all gone (only the self created ones)

I guess that did happen after i manually clicked the "scan library" button

 

How i can avoid this in future?

[GrimReaper 4740]

2 minutes ago, Romek123 said:

How i can avoid this in future?

Save NFOs with media.

[Romek123 42]

i use NFOs

 

but for example all star trek movies have collections already - and this is saved in NFO

 

now i wanna add an additional collection in emby "Star Trek - Universe" with all star trek movies and shows. Without removing old collections

this works fine and looks good. until i scan media manually again. than they get deleted and this star trek movies have only the official collections

[GrimReaper 4740]

2 minutes ago, Romek123 said:

i use NFOs

Are those NFOs created by Emby or 3-rd party app? Are they maybe locked? As an item can have multiple <set> nodes, as in as many Collections it belongs to.

[Romek123 42]

NFOs are created with TinyMediaManager

of course they are locked - i don't want to change my manually maintained data with some random scrape processes.

but looks like i found the solution by myself.

in configuration is metadata manager. i did go to the self created collection and there i have at the end the option to lock this collection from changes.

just manually scanned library and still have this collection so i guess its working now

 

Edited March 24, 2022 by Romek123

[Romek123 42]

ok - does not work. all custom made collections are gone again.

so is it not possible to have additional custom collections when use NFO's?

[Happy2Play 9781]

23 hours ago, Romek123 said:

in configuration is metadata manager. i did go to the self created collection and there i have at the end the option to lock this collection from changes.

I am guessing you are locking the Collection not the items and that will do anything really.

Collections are all about individual movie item metadata now.

For a custom collection to disappear something would have to remove the <set> node from items.

simple example member of provider collection and custom collection per movie member nfo

  <set tmdbcolid="125574">
    <name>The Amazing Spider-Man Collection</name>
  </set>
  <set>
    <name>1 Test Collection TEST</name>
  </set>

 

[Romek123 42]

i tested this with one single movie in a collection - star trek 1 - i locked everything in metadata that was possible to lock and i even deleted the tmdb id

but after scanning my library the custom one was gone again - it ignores all the lock stuff and reads everyhting from NFO again

 

so you mean i should delete the collection in my NFO?

[Happy2Play 9781]

I cannot make anything disappear from a collection with a single or full library scan.

But @Lukeshould I be able to remove an item from a collection when the item metadata is locked?  Basically, we can say <set> cannot be locked right now.

 

But at the same time Locked items will/would prevent new Collections from every being made.  So I see the argument either way.

Edited March 25, 2022 by Happy2Play
added info

[Luke 42079]

2 hours ago, Happy2Play said:

I cannot make anything disappear from a collection with a single or full library scan.

But @Lukeshould I be able to remove an item from a collection when the item metadata is locked?  Basically, we can say <set> cannot be locked right now.

 

But at the same time Locked items will/would prevent new Collections from every being made.  So I see the argument either way.

I guess it might come back later at some point if the server can't update the nfo file. If there's no nfo then it should be fine.

[Romek123 42]

I just tested this. deleted the movie-set with TinyMedia Manager for Star Trek 1 movie

than i updated library in emby and after some time this movie had no movie-set as it should

than i added this movie in emby to the star trek collection and updated library again

it removed collection again

 

checked the nfo and there is only one line for set:

  <set/>

so this did not help at all

 

i made screenshot from my settings for this library (attachements)

 

 

[Luke 42079]

What does "updated library again" mean?

[Romek123 42]

go to configuration on server

there i go to library

click on the ... for my movie library and here "Bilbiothek scannen" (rescan library i guess)

 

[Luke 42079]

Maybe tiny media manager removed it from the nfo ?

[Romek123 42]

Looks like its working now.

 

i unmarked the: [ ] Nfo - Dateiformat für die Speicherung der Metadaten wählen.

i rescanned library now 3x and custom collections are not gone

 

well, i will montitor this for 1-2 days but it looks good for now ...

 

Edited March 26, 2022 by Romek123

[Luke 42079]

If and when tmm updates then nfo and removes them you'll see them getting removed from emby as well.

[Happy2Play 9781]

Testing in TMM it does not handle multiple sets unless I do not have it configured so any save in TMM will remove additional sets added by Emby in my limited testing.

@GrimReaperdoes that sound correct?

[Romek123 42]

is correct - tmm saves only 1 Set. not possible to choose more than one

[GrimReaper 4740]

1 hour ago, Happy2Play said:

Testing in TMM it does not handle multiple sets unless I do not have it configured so any save in TMM will remove additional sets added by Emby in my limited testing.

@GrimReaperdoes that sound correct?

Correct, if Emby is allowed to re-write NFO, subsequent update from TMM will remove extra <set> nodes and leave only one (auto-TMDB), as it doesn't handle custom/multiple collections/movie sets. 

Edit: https://gitlab.com/tinyMediaManager/tinyMediaManager/-/issues/1617

 

Edited March 26, 2022 by GrimReaper
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[Romek123 42]

ok it works now

made yesterday different test colelctions and they did not get removed after several library rescans - i only unmarked this in movie library config:

------------------------------------------

Metadatenformat:

Nfo [  ]

Dateiformat für die Speicherung der Metadaten wählen

------------------------------------------

 

And for the TMM question:

- no, emby does not save additional collections to NFO's too. I did not rescan this movies with TMM so TMM changed nothing and still emby removed them with a library rescan.

- now i have unmarked saving to NFO's and it looks like EMBY saves this data somewhere on my NAS in his own folders - and it works

Edited March 26, 2022 by Romek123

[pünktchen 1409]

2 hours ago, Romek123 said:

no, emby does not save additional collections to NFO's too.

It's because of this:

On 3/24/2022 at 8:05 PM, Romek123 said:

NFOs are created with TinyMediaManager

of course they are locked

 

[Luke 42079]

6 hours ago, Romek123 said:

And for the TMM question:

- no, emby does not save additional collections to NFO's too. I did not rescan this movies with TMM so TMM changed nothing and still emby removed them with a library rescan.

 

Yes it does, but it looks like TMM removes them later.

[Happy2Play 9781]

6 hours ago, Romek123 said:

ok it works now

made yesterday different test colelctions and they did not get removed after several library rescans - i only unmarked this in movie library config:

------------------------------------------

Metadatenformat:

Nfo [  ]

Choose a file format to store metadata

------------------------------------------

 

And for the TMM question:

- no, emby does not save additional collections to NFO's too. I did not rescan this movies with TMM so TMM changed nothing and still emby removed them with a library rescan.

- now i have unmarked saving to NFO's and it looks like EMBY saves this data somewhere on my NAS in his own folders - and it works

No it is only saved in the database so if anything happens to that database the info is lost.

But do not agree with the rest.