Multiple versions of the same media

[danergo 37]

Hi!

I know I can have multiple versions of the same media by renaming my media to the containing folder and adding " - versionname.ext" to it.

This works as intended, although I think people need that very rare, and (as I) we don't remember the correct syntax. It would a be great to have an option in the metadata page where we can select one file and mark it as a version by providing our preferred name of the version.

Then do this on the second, third, etc file, rescan the library, and done.

What do you think? (Or we already have this somewhere, somehow?)

 

Second thing which is a bit different, but belongs to here:

I have added a "Conversion" to one of my media, to convert it down for lower end clients. It worked pretty well, now I have two versions when I'm browsing:

But, I realized I don't need it (as it was just a test), and removed that from the Conversions page:

 

Neither I have downloads:

 

And after I removed and rescanned the library, this conversion has not been deleted, so I still have the "custom" version listed.

I can't see that from the metadata manager either, so my only way to really remove the conversion is to delete through an SSH shell.

I believe this is a bug, when I remove the conversion, it should remove physically the converted file, no?

 

Thank you!

 

Edited October 11, 2021 by danergo

[Painkiller88 250]

48 minutes ago, danergo said:

 

I know I can have multiple versions of the same media by renaming my media to the containing folder and adding " - versionname.ext" to it.

This works as intended, although I think people need that very rare, and (as I) we don't remember the correct syntax. It would a be great to have an option in the metadata page where we can select one file and mark it as a version by providing our preferred name of the version.

Then do this on the second, third, etc file, rescan the library, and done.

What do you think? (Or we already have this somewhere, somehow?)

I need this very often as i have a  lot 4K movies additionally to the normal 1080 Versions.

It isn't hard to name the movies correct.

EG:
Moviename (year) - 1080P.ext
Moviename (year) - 4K.ext

this is everything you need to do. all after the normal naming declares the version so you will see 1080P and 4K in your Versions Dropdown.

You don't need to enter the whole name again as you already know in which Movie, Episode you are, so it makes no sense to give the item the full name again. Simply 1080p, 4K, 3D etc. and this is what you see in the dropdown for your movie, tvshow

there is nothing more to do.

Edited October 11, 2021 by Painkiller8818

[danergo 37]

Thanks. I know how shall I name the files to make Emby recognize them.

How could you rename the movies from Emby? That would be the main purpose of my question.

[Luke 42079]

8 hours ago, danergo said:

Thanks. I know how shall I name the files to make Emby recognize them.

How could you rename the movies from Emby? That would be the main purpose of my question.

You can edit the display title in the emby metadata editor, if that's what you mean. 

[danergo 37]

Luke, no, let me rephrase with steps took:

1.) I have downloaded a movie with name 'taxi.5.1080p.blueray.fromusera.mkv'

2.) I identified it as "Taxi 5", and let Auto-organize putting into a directory, so it will be moved here: "Taxi 5 (2017)/taxi.5.1080p.blueray.fromusera.mkv'.

3.) I realized it's too "heavy" for my lower end devices, and I didn't want my NAS to convert it: I found another one and downloaded with name 'taxi.5.1080p.custom.mkv'

4.) I identified this later version too as "Taxi 5", and let Auto-organize moving it into the same directory.

Now the directory is as the follow:

Taxi 5 (2017)/taxi.5.1080p.blueray.fromusera.mkv
Taxi 5 (2017)/taxi.5.1080p.custom.mkv

Only the blueray is displayed in the library, and my original question's purpose was to find out if it's possible through metadata editor to rename physically these files in the filesystem, to let Emby recognize them as versions of each other.

I know I can rename them via SSH/SCP access, but I'm looking for the way/possibility to do that from the Emby interface.

I know I can change the display title, but that's good for me, I don't want to change that. I need to show Emby, that those two files shall be considered as versions.

 

NB, if I rename them to these, Emby does recognize them:

Taxi 5 (2017)/Taxi 5 (2017) - blueray.fromusera.mkv
Taxi 5 (2017)/Taxi 5 (2017) - custom.mkv

As versions of "blueray.fromusera" and "custom".

 

Sorry for being blurry.

[Luke 42079]

OK as far as physically renaming, no, there's nothing in the metadata editor for that.

[HawkXP71 112]

Having a similar issue here.

Here is my directory:

scott@mediabox:/volume2/video/Movies/Marvel/MCU/Black Widow (2021) [tmdbid=497698]$ pwd
/volume2/video/Movies/Marvel/MCU/Black Widow (2021) [tmdbid=497698]
scott@mediabox:/volume2/video/Movies/Marvel/MCU/Black Widow (2021) [tmdbid=497698]$ ls -altr
total 21230132
-rw-rw-rw-  1 scott emby  4530834243 Jul  9 00:49 'Black Widow-1080P.mkv'
-rw-rw-rw-  1 scott emby 17189037237 Jul  9 00:58 'Black Widow-4K.mkv'
drwxrwxr-x  1 scott emby        2164 Oct 12 13:20  ..
-rw-r--r--  1 emby  emby     8467454 Oct 12 13:24 'Black Widow-1080P-320-10.bif'
-rw-r--r--  1 emby  emby      314771 Oct 12 13:24 'Black Widow-1080P-poster.jpg'
-rw-r--r--  1 emby  emby     1925261 Oct 12 13:24 'Black Widow-1080P-fanart.jpg'
-rw-r--r--  1 emby  emby       19492 Oct 12 13:24 'Black Widow-1080P.nfo'
-rw-r--r--  1 emby  emby     6776209 Oct 12 13:32 'Black Widow-4K-320-10.bif'
drwxrwxr-x  1 scott emby         486 Oct 12 13:32  .
-rw-r--r--  1 emby  emby      314771 Oct 12 13:32 'Black Widow-4K-poster.jpg'
-rw-r--r--  1 emby  emby     1925261 Oct 12 13:32 'Black Widow-4K-fanart.jpg'
drwxrwxrwx+ 1 root  root         290 Oct 12 13:32  @eaDir
-rw-r--r--  1 emby  emby       19494 Oct 12 13:32 'Black Widow-4K.nfo'
scott@mediabox:/volume2/video/Movies/Marvel/MCU/Black Widow (2021) [tmdbid=497698]$

I believe I have named the two MKV files correctly.  The TMDBID is being picked up correctly.

But I get two icons/thumbnails on the menu, and when I click either one, I do not get a pulldown.

What do I have to do to trigger this to work properly?

[Happy2Play 9780]

2 minutes ago, HawkXP71 said:

Having a similar issue here.

Here is my directory:

scott@mediabox:/volume2/video/Movies/Marvel/MCU/Black Widow (2021) [tmdbid=497698]$ pwd
/volume2/video/Movies/Marvel/MCU/Black Widow (2021) [tmdbid=497698]
scott@mediabox:/volume2/video/Movies/Marvel/MCU/Black Widow (2021) [tmdbid=497698]$ ls -altr
total 21230132
-rw-rw-rw-  1 scott emby  4530834243 Jul  9 00:49 'Black Widow-1080P.mkv'
-rw-rw-rw-  1 scott emby 17189037237 Jul  9 00:58 'Black Widow-4K.mkv'
drwxrwxr-x  1 scott emby        2164 Oct 12 13:20  ..
-rw-r--r--  1 emby  emby     8467454 Oct 12 13:24 'Black Widow-1080P-320-10.bif'
-rw-r--r--  1 emby  emby      314771 Oct 12 13:24 'Black Widow-1080P-poster.jpg'
-rw-r--r--  1 emby  emby     1925261 Oct 12 13:24 'Black Widow-1080P-fanart.jpg'
-rw-r--r--  1 emby  emby       19492 Oct 12 13:24 'Black Widow-1080P.nfo'
-rw-r--r--  1 emby  emby     6776209 Oct 12 13:32 'Black Widow-4K-320-10.bif'
drwxrwxr-x  1 scott emby         486 Oct 12 13:32  .
-rw-r--r--  1 emby  emby      314771 Oct 12 13:32 'Black Widow-4K-poster.jpg'
-rw-r--r--  1 emby  emby     1925261 Oct 12 13:32 'Black Widow-4K-fanart.jpg'
drwxrwxrwx+ 1 root  root         290 Oct 12 13:32  @eaDir
-rw-r--r--  1 emby  emby       19494 Oct 12 13:32 'Black Widow-4K.nfo'
scott@mediabox:/volume2/video/Movies/Marvel/MCU/Black Widow (2021) [tmdbid=497698]$

I believe I have named the two MKV files correctly.  The TMDBID is being picked up correctly.

But I get two icons/thumbnails on the menu, and when I click either one, I do not get a pulldown.

What do I have to do to trigger this to work properly?

The naming scheme for the media is incorrect for automatic multi-versioning

Quote

Each version must begin with the folder name, followed by " - ".

But suspect the plugin would be a better option for you.

https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/63643-automatic-version-grouping-for-movies/

 

[HawkXP71 112]

2 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

The naming scheme for the media is incorrect for automatic multi-versioning

But suspect the plugin would be a better option for you.

https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/63643-automatic-version-grouping-for-movies/

 

Ill have to contact the developer of the plugin, unfortunately it appears to only support windows servers (Im running it on Synology)

Ill fix the filename to fix the issue and see what happens.  I swear I have read https://support.emby.media/support/solutions/articles/44001159102-movie-naming multiple and missed that line 

[Happy2Play 9780]

4 minutes ago, HawkXP71 said:

unfortunately it appears to only support windows servers (Im running it on Synology)

What do you mean, per that topic?

  

On 4/14/2021 at 12:22 AM, kaledi said:

It works on my Synology NAS installation.

 

[HawkXP71 112]

Just now, Happy2Play said:

What do you mean, per that topic?

  

 

No.. i made a stupid assumption  I downloaded the zip file and saw the dll and assumed.  I guess Ill go try it.  N00b on installing plugins outside of the catalog. 

Guess I got some more googling to do

BTW, your filename including the folder hint worked like a charm, but this will be even better assuming I can get it working

[Happy2Play 9780]

1 minute ago, HawkXP71 said:

No.. i made a stupid assumption  I downloaded the zip file and saw the dll and assumed.  I guess Ill go try it.  N00b on installing plugins outside of the catalog. 

Guess I got some more googling to do

BTW, your filename including the folder hint worked like a charm, but this will be even better assuming I can get it working

Only thing you will probably have to verify is permissions when ssh to put this dll in the plugin folder.

[HawkXP71 112]

5 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

Only thing you will probably have to verify is permissions when ssh to put this dll in the plugin folder.

After I copied it over, I updated the owner and permissions to match the other plugin dlls

[danergo 37]

Is it also working on Linux based hosts?

[Carlo 4561]

Yes it should.

[Przemek 70]

On 10/17/2021 at 6:08 PM, Carlo said:

Yes it should.

Hi, can  You tell me how to make one media in my case:


just change names like that:

Moonrise Kingdom (2012)_1080p_english.ext
Moonrise Kingdom (2012)_480p_polish.ext

without extensions?

[Neminem 1519]

Change the name of your 480p version to match the naming of your other files.

The 480p is not named like the others.

Movie Naming | Emby Documentation

[Przemek 70]

6 minutes ago, jaycedk said:

Change the name of your 480p version to match the naming of your other files.

The 480p is not named like the others.

Movie Naming | Emby Documentation

Like that?

[Neminem 1519]

You could try, but not sure that works.

Since before the dash " - " you have BDRip or Remux

 

Could never wrap my mind around it.

Edited June 24, 2024 by jaycedk
Edit

[ebr 16184]

Just now, jaycedk said:

Since before the dash " - " you have BDRip or Remux

Right - move the ' - ' to right after the common part of the name.

[Przemek 70]

28 minutes ago, ebr said:

Right - move the ' - ' to right after the common part of the name.

I make like that:

[Przemek 70]

Now it works:





it's possible to add some info that bdrip 480p is polish language?
 

[ebr 16184]

14 minutes ago, Przemek said:

it's possible to add some info that bdrip 480p is polish language?

Whatever is to the right of the ' - ' in the file name will show in that drop down, so, yes.