Can't remove "Collections" from My Media

[chowbok 132]

Today I created a new library and it generated a "Collections" entry along with the libraries in My Media. I don't want Collections, so I went in and deleted the all the listed collections. The main "Collections" entry is still there, though. How do I get rid of it?

[koopa8840 24]

Turn this feature off within the library settings. You may have to manually delete already created collections.

Edited August 23, 2021 by koopa8840

[chowbok 132]

I found this and did it, but the entry is still there.

 

 

Edited August 23, 2021 by chowbok
Wasn't actually fixed, sorry

[chowbok 132]

6 minutes ago, koopa8840 said:

Turn this feature off within the library settings. You may have to manually delete already created collections.

Thanks, but that just shows me how to avoid creating them in the future. My problem is that I can't delete the already-created library entry.

Edited August 23, 2021 by chowbok
changing to present tense

[Carlo 4561]

You can turn this off at the client level here:

[chowbok 132]

I can't find that. Here's what it looks like to me: 

 

[Carlo 4561]

That picture is from the web home screen.

[chowbok 132]

5 minutes ago, cayars said:

That picture is from the web home screen.

And... ?

[rbjtech 5284]

3 hours ago, chowbok said:

And... ?

"You can turn this off at the client level here:"

[GrimReaper 4740]

Hm, if you look at the syntax there, it's like from a common library (Mixed-type) option text, rather than the usual virtual Collections library. 

Do you have more than one Collections libraries listed? Did you ever manually created a library named "Collections"? 

Edited August 23, 2021 by GrimReaper76
Rephrased

[Happy2Play 9780]

4 hours ago, chowbok said:

I can't find that. Here's what it looks like to me: 

 

This image would suggest Collections is not a true Collections library and is actually a Mixed Content type library, correct?

If that is the case it can be deleted via Libraries.  But if there are collections in the library it will return as the item metadata still contains the <set> node.

[chowbok 132]

4 hours ago, rbjtech said:

"You can turn this off at the client level here:"

This Is the client. I use the web interface to access Emby. 

[chowbok 132]

4 hours ago, Happy2Play said:

This image would suggest Collections is not a true Collections library and is actually a Mixed Content type library, correct?

If that is the case it can be deleted via Libraries.  But if there are collections in the library it will return as the item metadata still contains the <set> node.

Okay, weird. I never created it, it appeared on its own when I created another library. I know "delete" didn't appear as an option when it first showed up, but it was there just now and I was able to delete it. 

Is it possible that deleting the "Collections" folder manually from the server (as outlined in the quoted post above) converted it somehow?

Anyway, it's gone now. Thanks for your (and @GrimReaper76's) help.

[Happy2Play 9780]

2 hours ago, chowbok said:

Is it possible that deleting the "Collections" folder manually from the server (as outlined in the quoted post above) converted it somehow?

Yes as mentioned in the other post.

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That should change the content type of Collections shown on Dashboard-Library to Mixed Content and allow you to remove them.

 

[chowbok 132]

1 minute ago, Happy2Play said:

Yes as mentioned in the other post.

 

Ha ha, whoops. Guess it pays to read the whole thing. Sorry about that.

[Madtitan 5]

CONFIRMING, this theory of disabling on the library, still produces the Collections LIbrary on its own. Regardless if its a fresh install or an old one. Tried in a LInux Container and on WIndows VM.

[Happy2Play 9780]

12 hours ago, Madtitan said:

CONFIRMING, this theory of disabling on the library, still produces the Collections LIbrary on its own. Regardless if its a fresh install or an old one. Tried in a LInux Container and on WIndows VM.

Collections can only be made per existing metadata, provider metadata or manually.  So one of those conditions have to be meet ie the <set> node in any item metadata and the library is made, there is no stopping that beside ensure the minimum value is high enough to no make collection.

But in the end this virtual library is controlled by the server not the user per metadata.

So the question becomes what did you confirm?

 

But devs potentially need to add a higher value to not create collections at all even when metadata is present.

 

Edited September 25, 2024 by Happy2Play

[Luke 42078]

On 9/24/2024 at 11:43 AM, Madtitan said:

CONFIRMING, this theory of disabling on the library, still produces the Collections LIbrary on its own. Regardless if its a fresh install or an old one. Tried in a LInux Container and on WIndows VM.

HI, were any collections created?

[Madtitan 5]

Hey Luke, yes it did. With the setting off, and manually deleting the collections in that TAB, I was doing re organizing of the media, updating certain subs/movie names, and also changing their folders. Once the media is moved to a different HD, or folder and Emby Rescans, it gets created.

 

For example now. I just re encoded my Jumanji movies, to 60fps and did the Ai enhance. The replacing of the old files, triggered the collection folder creation and again, the setting was unchecked a long time ago.

 

And thank you for your follow up.

[Happy2Play 9780]

18 hours ago, Madtitan said:

Hey Luke, yes it did. With the setting off, and manually deleting the collections in that TAB, I was doing re organizing of the media, updating certain subs/movie names, and also changing their folders. Once the media is moved to a different HD, or folder and Emby Rescans, it gets created.

 

For example now. I just re encoded my Jumanji movies, to 60fps and did the Ai enhance. The replacing of the old files, triggered the collection folder creation and again, the setting was unchecked a long time ago.

 

And thank you for your follow up.

Need to go over library settings, but if there is existing metadata Emby will always read it even if option is disabled.  So we would need to see the nfo file for Jumanji if you write nfo files.

But can say I cannot have Emby create any collections with library option disabled and movie metadata not containing the Required <set> node to create a collection in 4.8 or 4.9.

[Luke 42078]

@Madtitan?

[Madtitan 5]

VERY SORRY. Drill weekend and this week WILL be horrible with extra work preparing for this Hurricane we are hearing for FL and we already got our assignments.

 

Anyhow.

My tests as i mentioned were done in a new VM server i installed for testings purposes only. I still got the collections even after the settings were not CHECKED.

I had increased the list also from 2 to 4.

This is not checked

[ ] Import collection information from metadata downloaders

When enabled, this will import collection information from your enabled metadata downloaders. This may cause unwanted collections to be automatically created. Disabling will prevent future collections from being automatically created, but will not delete existing ones.

 

[ Minimum automatic collection size] from the options i moved this to 4, to check if it prevented also the collections from being built. Even if i didnt change this settings they still created with the UNCHECKED import collection info.

Please refer to the following screenshots:

 

As you can see, this is both the Library for the regular movies and the library for the kids as an Example, and 4K with the same settings as the movie Library.

Using the same settings for all the libraries, they created the collections on both the Movies Library and 4K. The images as you can see reflected, they attached on the regular "movie" side (NON 4K library} Both the 4k movie and also the 1080p version, both of the movie collections i mentioned in the previous posts. The kids section doesnt even display the collections tab within the GUI. NOW, when i proceed to the 4K library, as you can see on the last screenshot, it created a few, even after manually deleting these a while back (May 2024).

Information i did not provide in my initial post in this section is that i am on Version 4.9.0.30 beta.

I hope that this helps and if I delay by a lot on the response my apologies in advanced.

(Many thanks to both Happy2play and Luke) You guys are awesome at trying to assist and help figure things out.

[Happy2Play 9780]

Okay but does the media have existing metadata with it?   What files are in the media folder?

If you have nfo files what are the contents of that file?

But from a clean install/portable with media with NO existing metadata I cannot create Collections with the library option disabled when importing media.

So we need the entire picture of your media, content with media as something beside Emby has to be applying the required information.

[Madtitan 5]

So with the same files, it created the Collections for me. Now, if your saying that maybe the METADATA is embedded into the file itself, maybe that would be the cause.... but....

I would have gotten to the conclusion if it would have done it with the other series for example "Allegiant", "Hunger Games", etc "Batman" (inside my batman collection is the Batman with Jack and Michael Kea and its paired with Batman and Robin).

I attached the screenshot of the movie tags and some of the metadata and it not the same for both movies. Now for example, the movie tags inside the collection are also included in the screenshots. Which is why I don't understand why it creates it. I can manually delete  the collections from the GUI, but i cannot delete the collections folder LIBRARY which doesn't even show an option for removal. My thing is, it was actually enabled at a given time (it wasnt, but lets say it was), why only create those collections and not all? like AV3NG3RS...or even FROZEN and so on so forth? Why separate Batman from Dark Knight?, it made one with CLooney and Keaton? Am i right? lol. Anyway , thanks for looking into this

[Neminem 1519]

27 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

If you have nfo files what are the contents of that file?

Check you library for nfo files, and post them here, as per you example above.

That being besides you media files, something like  "C:\movies\Awesome Movie\Awesome Movie.nfo

Edited October 7, 2024 by Neminem