Any way to turn off the automatic collection grouping?

[Tenyrsgone27 19]

I noticed that Emby server is now automatically creating collections/sets when you add multiple movies of the same set to your library. Is there any way to turn this off? I looked in the advanced section and see you can only change the # of movies before it will auto create a collection/set. I create all my own collections/sets in Emby and do not need the server to do it for me. 

Tenyrsgone27

[Happy2Play 9780]

Are you saying you don't see this option per library?

Once Collections are made all you can do is delete them via the UI to properly update the media nfo to remove the <set> node that creates the Collection.

 

[Tenyrsgone27 19]

Yes I do and I have it unchecked but it's still creating a collection. It still created a collection yesterday.

[GrimReaper 4739]

32 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

Are you saying you don't see this option per library?

Once Collections are made all you can do is delete them via the UI to properly update the media nfo to remove the <set> node that creates the Collection.

 

That option is available/visible only with TMDB scraper enabled. 

[GrimReaper 4739]

1 minute ago, Tenyrsgone27 said:

Yes I do and I have it unchecked but it's still creating a collection. It still created a collection yesterday.

Do your create your nfos outside of Emby? Maybe they already have <set> tag written. 

[Tenyrsgone27 19]

Yes, I use TMM with TMDB to scrape my movies before loading them in Emby and I do create the NFO. That could be why?

[Happy2Play 9780]

3 minutes ago, Tenyrsgone27 said:

Yes, I use TMM with TMDB to scrape my movies before loading them in Emby and I do create the NFO. That could be why?

Possibly, would need to see a nfo created by TMM.  Does it write a <set> node?

[Tenyrsgone27 19]

Just went through the NFO and I don't see <set> node anywhere. Says at the top Standalone = Yes, not sure if that means anything. 

[Happy2Play 9780]

3 minutes ago, Tenyrsgone27 said:

Just went through the NFO and I don't see <set> node anywhere. Says at the top Standalone = Yes, not sure if that means anything. 

That is normal for nfo files.

Not sure what is happening then, with the import option disabled the only way a collection is made is from a existing <set> node.  Or at least in all my testing.

[Carlo 4561]

Are you sure you're looking at a movie that is currently part of a collection?

[GrimReaper 4739]

17 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

Possibly, would need to see a nfo created by TMM.  Does it write a <set> node?

Yes, TMM writes <set> node of you choose to scrape collection info - that's how I make all my sets. 

[Tenyrsgone27 19]

Ok, that's cool. As long as I know it's TMM doing it. I can just delete the collection when it creates it. It's not a ton, I just noticed it the other day it happened after I had already created the collection. 

Thanks all for the feedback and information! 

Edited August 2, 2021 by Tenyrsgone27

[GrimReaper 4739]

Just now, Tenyrsgone27 said:

Ok, that's cool. As long as I know it's TMM doing it. I can just delete the collection when it creates it. It's not a ton, I just noticed it the other day it happened after I had already created the collection. 

Or just don't scrape it in the first place, untick "Movie set" in Settings>Scraper Options>Metadata Scrape Defaults. 

[moviefan 187]

Where does it then store this information?  Just in local metadata files?  I've noticed Emby automatically adding some series but have been confused about where this data remains.  It is simply in the DB somewhere?

[Happy2Play 9780]

9 minutes ago, moviefan said:

Where does it then store this information?  Just in local metadata files?  I've noticed Emby automatically adding some series but have been confused about where this data remains.  It is simply in the DB somewhere?

Item nfo files will store the collection it is assigned to via the <set> node/s.

If you do not write nfo files then it would be ItemLinks in the database (but don't know exactly how the links are created in the database).

xml metadata is a slightly different story.

Edited August 2, 2021 by Happy2Play

[Luke 42077]

Xml metadata is not going to work with collections. It has not been updated with the newer features that nfo's have related to this.

[Bingie 99]

TMM? 

What's that?  Sounds like I'm missing a cool app

thanks

 

[GrimReaper 4739]

5 minutes ago, Bingyyyy said:

TMM? 

What's that?  Sounds like I'm missing a cool app

thanks

 

It surely is. tinyMediaManager. 

https://www.tinymediamanager.org/

[Tenyrsgone27 19]

Tiny Media Manager (TMM) It's a great free program, I use it for all my movies and TV series. Really help with when Emby scrapes the movie or series. 

[Bingie 99]

"find TV shows and episodes in subdirectories"

they just magically appear? sounds like yet another app that automatically downloads stuff, I'm missing out on that too, whatever it is

I'm still doing everything manually, one at a time.  Oh well, it takes time, lots to learn!

[GrimReaper 4739]

1 minute ago, Tenyrsgone27 said:

Tiny Media Manager (TMM) It's a great free program

That "free" is questionable (and highly depending on your needs, how much of your collection you want to curate with it): you can stick with v3 which will be abandoned sooner or later or go with v4, which has "free" and paid tiers, with "free" one being quite limited. Or to rephrase it: not using TMM's strongest set of features. 

[GrimReaper 4739]

4 minutes ago, Bingyyyy said:

they just magically appear?

They dont, you will still have to take certain care of your filenames. 

4 minutes ago, Bingyyyy said:

sounds like yet another app that automatically downloads stuff

Media Manager, yes, some prefer TMM, some prefer MCM (Media Center Master), some prefer some third option. It all comes down to preferences. But TMM IS extremely powerful tool. 

Edited August 6, 2021 by GrimReaper76
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[Bingie 99]

Thanks, I'll check those out next.  I'm still having a blast learning OBS, it captures streams brilliantly.  Totally pleased with it.

[GrimReaper 4739]

Just now, Bingyyyy said:

Thanks, I'll check those out next. 

Emby does pretty good job of that by itself, there is generally no need to grab a 3rd-party app unless you're really keen on meticulously curating your collection or having the urge to scratch that itch, or you want to automate certain processes. And I reckon over time it'll only get better, you might as well spare yourself of somewhat steep learning curve for yet another application. 

[Carlo 4561]

It's funny, of all the pre-processing and special care I do to files before adding them to Emby I've never felt the need to pre-scrape an NFO file for them as I've not really had issue with Emby creating the NFOs for me.

Anything specifically you use it for that's an advantage over Emby?
Do you use it for things like expanded meta-data or downloading graphics from different locations or pulling trailers down?