Turn on Missing Episodes

[serpi 82]

21 hours ago, Gilgamesh_48 said:

I really do not understand the problem. [...]

I'm using Emby most of the time on different TVs with a remote control, as does the rest of my family.

There is no simple "move mousepointer there and click this".

[Luke 42077]

3 hours ago, serpi said:

I'm using Emby most of the time on different TVs with a remote control, as does the rest of my family.

There is no simple "move mousepointer there and click this".

Yes but there are three dot menus all throughout that have this function.

[rbjtech 5284]

12 hours ago, Luke said:

Yes but there are three dot menus all throughout that have this function.

Maybe I'm missing the point here - but as a 'client/user' of the system - how would I KNOW to use this function in the first place ?

When I watch a show, I don't assume an episode MAY be missing and therefore manually check each time - I want to be NOTIFIED that an episode is missing - thus I know in advance.

The only useful function 'missing episodes' now serves is for the Admin (and then are far better tools out there for this) or for the poor client when they realise they have missed an episode and then attempt to find out what's going on.

I get the technical reasons why, but removing this basic functionality without replacing it with something that is functional (from a client perspective) was a poor decision imo.

[Junglejim 385]

57 minutes ago, rbjtech said:

Maybe I'm missing the point here - but as a 'client/user' of the system - how would I KNOW to use this function in the first place ?

When I watch a show, I don't assume an episode MAY be missing and therefore manually check each time - I want to be NOTIFIED that an episode is missing - thus I know in advance.

The only useful function 'missing episodes' now serves is for the Admin (and then are far better tools out there for this) or for the poor client when they realise they have missed an episode and then attempt to find out what's going on.

I get the technical reasons why, but removing this basic functionality without replacing it with something that is functional (from a client perspective) was a poor decision imo.

"The only useful function 'missing episodes' now serves is for the Admin".... Yes you finally get it... The user gets what is available and that's that!! Can the user upload new episodes?? NO!! That's a job for the admin for that server.... Yes?

I just don't get all this petty bullshit for mainly UPCOMING episodes that the user has no control over... Again Admin

Missing episodes pre latest seasons are again all Admin.

SO what I'm saying is this feature is admin and should stay that way.

[Junglejim 385]

Nice and hot night here, had a few.. sorry if I offended anyone.

[Trevor68 70]

Well it is pretty shite compared to before the change. I mean sure, you find the little dots, then you select a few radio buttons, and then what happens? you get a couple of pictures!

Not even a link to the show ffs. 

[Smitty018210 143]

I said at the time that I thought it was an awful change and still feel the same. Awful changes unfortunately happens far to often with this product.

[Trevor68 70]

Haha, don't get me started on waiting 2 mins for upcoming episodes to appear! 

[Neminem 1518]

Tbh I don't care, If don't have my collection in order.

I don't let users have access to that season.

It's that simple.

tbh its not embys media,

you supply,

you maintain,

if you can't, don't. 

10 hours ago, Junglejim said:

I just don't get all this petty bullshit for mainly UPCOMING episodes that the user has no control over... Again Admin

Missing episodes pre latest seasons are again all Admin.

SO what I'm saying is this feature is admin and should stay that way.

Edited November 22, 2024 by Neminem

[frank42 6]

It's incredibly demotivating how this discussion is going on and on and on and on, without sticking to the origin problem.

THE. MISSING. EPISODES. FEATURE. DOES. NOT. WORK.

At least not in the current version.

I already gave an example in my earlier post here:

the function does not only fail to actively inform the user (or admin) about missing content, it does even fail at informing when asking for missing episodes.

I still have one episode in my "House M.D." collection missing, and the "View missing episodes" button still shows "No items found", even though I can see the hole between episode 9 and 11 directly on the screen.
And no, it doesn't matter if it's emby in chrome or emby on FireTV or emby on Android tablet or emby on Samsung TV.

I see the point why some people think it's useless to inform a user without any write access that there's content missing. But, on the other side, if the users don't have any chance of getting noticed about missing content, how should they drop a notice to the admin? The administrator can't go through the complete collection and click on every TV series to check if there's an episode missing. And since there's no global "find missing episodes" function, it's something that's literally impossible to handle.

but, if a user plays a TV series and he gets a notice after playing episode 9, that the episode 10 is missing, he is able to tell the admin that there's something missing. With procedural shows this might be tolerable because you can watch the missing episode later in most cases, but what about shows with an ongoing story? It's a showstopper then.

And nobody wants showstoppers.

However, this discussion doesn't seem to have any progress anymore, so I would like to suggest to close this topic. 

The devs are always right. Long live the devs.

[Luke 42077]

13 minutes ago, frank42 said:

It's incredibly demotivating how this discussion is going on and on and on and on, without sticking to the origin problem.

THE. MISSING. EPISODES. FEATURE. DOES. NOT. WORK.

At least not in the current version.

I already gave an example in my earlier post here:

the function does not only fail to actively inform the user (or admin) about missing content, it does even fail at informing when asking for missing episodes.

I still have one episode in my "House M.D." collection missing, and the "View missing episodes" button still shows "No items found", even though I can see the hole between episode 9 and 11 directly on the screen.
And no, it doesn't matter if it's emby in chrome or emby on FireTV or emby on Android tablet or emby on Samsung TV.

I see the point why some people think it's useless to inform a user without any write access that there's content missing. But, on the other side, if the users don't have any chance of getting noticed about missing content, how should they drop a notice to the admin? The administrator can't go through the complete collection and click on every TV series to check if there's an episode missing. And since there's no global "find missing episodes" function, it's something that's literally impossible to handle.

but, if a user plays a TV series and he gets a notice after playing episode 9, that the episode 10 is missing, he is able to tell the admin that there's something missing. With procedural shows this might be tolerable because you can watch the missing episode later in most cases, but what about shows with an ongoing story? It's a showstopper then.

And nobody wants showstoppers.

However, this discussion doesn't seem to have any progress anymore, so I would like to suggest to close this topic. 

The devs are always right. Long live the devs.

Hi,  what metadata fetchers are enabled on the library and in what order?

[frank42 6]

3 minutes ago, Luke said:

Hi,  what metadata fetchers are enabled on the library and in what order?

Uhm... the "TV Shows" collection is set to this:
Metadata Readers: Nfo
Series Metadata Downloaders: TheMovieDb
Season Metadata Downloaders: TheMovieDb
Episode Metadata Downloaders: TheTVDB

The last one is different because there's better episodes descriptions in German.

[Luke 42077]

28 minutes ago, frank42 said:

Uhm... the "TV Shows" collection is set to this:
Metadata Readers: Nfo
Series Metadata Downloaders: TheMovieDb
Season Metadata Downloaders: TheMovieDb
Episode Metadata Downloaders: TheTVDB

The last one is different because there's better episodes descriptions in German.

Tvdb needs to be enabled for series for this feature. It’s not a new requirement and has always been that way. 

[frank42 6]

5 minutes ago, Luke said:

Tvdb needs to be enabled for series for this feature. It’s not a new requirement and has always been that way. 

Interesting.

So, from the "user" point of view, would it be that hard to change the output of the function from "No items found" to ""No items found, you need to enable TvDB for this first."?

It would help a lot to minimise irritation if devs would think a little bit more about usability. "It's not a new requirement and has alsways been that way" is not really a helpful excuse if it's not clear to a user that it's a requirement if the function in question doesn't say so. Or if it's just documented somewhere in a developer API or similar instead of the UI.

However, after adding TvDB to the Series and Season Metadata Downloader, the missing episodes query works:

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Thanks for this so far, but I would really appreciate if this feature could be made more userfriendly.
 

[bandit8623 213]

So from what i gather after reading through these threads...  there is no way to see a missing episode if its the most recent episode?  It only finds episodes missing in between?

This feature would be most useful to figure out when a new episode comes out so i can get it.   Or am i missing something?

Having the episode listed but 25% transparent and not playable would be ideal for missing. like below if i was missing episode 10.

on the main tv shows page a little icon on top left showing which shows have missing content would also be great.  the current usage is not very useful at all. not trying to be rude.  but honest

Edited December 7, 2024 by bandit8623
added transparent info

[Luke 42077]

56 minutes ago, bandit8623 said:

So from what i gather after reading through these threads...  there is no way to see a missing episode if its the most recent episode?  It only finds episodes missing in between?

Hi, the information is still available using the context menu for the series -> View Missing Episodes. There you can see all missing episodes, in between and upcoming if you like.

[Gilgamesh_48 1240]

1 minute ago, Luke said:

Hi, the information is still available using the context menu for the series -> View Missing Episodes. There you can see all missing episodes, in between and upcoming if you like.

I just now ran into a situation that brought this back to my attention. I lost several files when I had a disk crash about a year ago. The originals were stored in a safe deposit box and I just now returned with said box. It was in another state. 

I know i can, series by series, find any missing episodes but it is only individual series, that is one at a time. 
I would like to have there be a "Find missing episodes" available for an entire library or on selected shows chosen by multi-select, all at once. I do not really need this right now as there is only about 7-10 series that are missing anything from the crash (I stupidly did not have duplication turned on in DrivePool for all my drives. That is now fixed) but things do, sometimes, go horrible wrong, and for future security it would be a good thing to be able to find missing episodes for an entire library. 

I can see that ability saving a lot of time in the future. 
You can add it to the bottom of the three dot menu you get on multi-select. 

If you cannot do this it is OK but I think it would be a good and pretty simple addition for maintenance purposes. 

Thanks. 

[Luke 42077]

1 minute ago, Gilgamesh_48 said:

I just now ran into a situation that brought this back to my attention. I lost several files when I had a disk crash about a year ago. The originals were stored in a safe deposit box and I just now returned with said box. It was in another state. 

I know i can, series by series, find any missing episodes but it is only individual series, that is one at a time. 
I would like to have there be a "Find missing episodes" available for an entire library or on selected shows chosen by multi-select, all at once. I do not really need this right now as there is only about 7-10 series that are missing anything from the crash (I stupidly did not have duplication turned on in DrivePool for all my drives. That is now fixed) but things do, sometimes, go horrible wrong, and for future security it would be a good thing to be able to find missing episodes for an entire library. 

I can see that ability saving a lot of time in the future. 
You can add it to the bottom of the three dot menu you get on multi-select. 

If you cannot do this it is OK but I think it would be a good and pretty simple addition for maintenance purposes. 

Thanks. 

The metadata manager has it for everything.

[Gilgamesh_48 1240]

1 minute ago, Luke said:

The metadata manager has it for everything.

Thanks. I have actually never had the need for "metadata manager" so it never occurred to me to use it for finding missing episodes. 

I will give it a try. 

[bandit8623 213]

53 minutes ago, Luke said:

Hi, the information is still available using the context menu for the series -> View Missing Episodes. There you can see all missing episodes, in between and upcoming if you like.

what about see all missing?  u have to go into each show and click the 3 dots...  how about be able to search overall from the entire library?

 

the current method is barely faster than going to imdb and looking up and comparing manually

Edited December 8, 2024 by bandit8623

[Luke 42077]

6 minutes ago, bandit8623 said:

what about see all missing?  u have to go into each show and click the 3 dots...  how about be able to search overall from the entire library?

 

the current method is barely faster than going to imdb and looking up and comparing manually

Have you explored the Views section of the metadata manager?

[bandit8623 213]

18 minutes ago, Luke said:

Have you explored the Views section of the metadata manager?

just tried it now but it doesnt sort properly.  tried changing series sort wont change.  tried changing release date wouldnt change.

 

https://share.vidyard.com/watch/w3SMHz17BaXRa15qwMHwB5?

[Luke 42077]

On 12/7/2024 at 8:46 PM, bandit8623 said:

just tried it now but it doesnt sort properly.  tried changing series sort wont change.  tried changing release date wouldnt change.

 

https://share.vidyard.com/watch/w3SMHz17BaXRa15qwMHwB5?

HI, can you please describe what you mean in more detail? What does "doesn't sort properly" mean? what does "just tried changing series" mean? 

[bandit8623 213]

3 hours ago, Luke said:

HI, can you please describe what you mean in more detail? What does "doesn't sort properly" mean? what does "just tried changing series" mean? 

When you click the sort buttons should it not change how it sorts?  In the video you can see when changing sort by date it doesn't change by date at all. Not does it sort differently by series.

[kbeck 64]

On 11/22/2024 at 12:45 PM, Smitty018210 said:

I said at the time that I thought it was an awful change and still feel the same. Awful changes unfortunately happens far to often with this product.

Awful changes unfortunately happens far to often with this product.

A bunch of monkeys banging on a keyboard could do better than this group. The stupid crap changes is beyond belief.