Turn on Missing Episodes

[Happy2Play 9780]

On 6/4/2024 at 8:23 AM, frank42 said:

I'm sorry to say, but you're wrong here.
I recently stumbled upon the fact that the "show missing episodes" has been removed. After searching for a while, I found this thread. 
I'm running version 4.8.8.0 at the moment (the most recent according to my server dashboard). 
In the advanced settings of my library (which is set to "TV shows" and not "mixed content"), there is no "show missing episodes" or similar. the three-dot-menu of a specific series (House), where I'm missing one episode in season 8 (in the middle, not at the end), contains a "view missing episodes" menu option, but the popup says "no items found".

So, the feature is not working.

Please give us the previous feature back. The one that was working.

Rule of thumb: Don't try to "fix" things that are not broken.

Going to be hard to say as it appear to work just fine here.

So in your example it would suggest there is possibly something wrong with the entire Show.  But server log for the specific example may help.  Might even be provider language metadata issue?

What metadata providers do you have enabled and in what order on that library?

[Vinylnostalgia 1]

@LukeHow does change make any sense whatsoever? You took a feature you think is obscure, made it even more obscure harder to get to?

Like, I need to know I'm missing episodes to check missing episodes instead of having them shown by default for all users??

How does this, from a UX perspective, make any sense???

[FredrikT 24]

On 05/06/2024 at 18:46, Happy2Play said:

Going to be hard to say as it appear to work just fine here.

So in your example it would suggest there is possibly something wrong with the entire Show.  But server log for the specific example may help.  Might even be provider language metadata issue?

What metadata providers do you have enabled and in what order on that library?

Which client is this from?

I have the exact same problem as most other users in this thread; in Android (both tv and regular) I can't see missing episodes. On web, I can only see them if I remember to go into this special menu;
But none of my users, myself included, use web. They use some form of android iOS, and then there's no way to see if there are missing episodes.

So I plead, again: please bring this feature back. If you believe this requires too much hw/db resources, make it optional as some of us have more than enough resources on the server side. Mentioning @Luke as I recall you've been involved in this topic before.

[ebr 16169]

1 minute ago, FredrikT said:

in Android (both tv and regular)

Hi.  There is a display option in the Android TV app to show missing episodes.  However, it will only show intermediate missing episodes.  Which means, if the only missing ones are the last ones in your library, it won't see those.

[Lessaj 467]

It's in the same place in the Android app as on web, the 3 dot menu either at the show or season level.

[FredrikT 24]

14 hours ago, ebr said:

Hi.  There is a display option in the Android TV app to show missing episodes.  However, it will only show intermediate missing episodes.  Which means, if the only missing ones are the last ones in your library, it won't see those.

On the Android app, there is an option for missing episodes "hidden" in the menus, yes. But why can't we enable Emby to show missing episodes directly as an option, as it used to be?

On Android for TV, which we primarily use, I can't find any options for this. See under. If I go into season 7, there's no three dots.

 

[ebr 16169]

If you want them shown in line like before, Android TV has an option for that. If you want the new style, search for the standard app and install that one.

[all4dom 101]

Can that option be added for all devices with the user having the ability to select what they like?

[FredrikT 24]

14 hours ago, ebr said:

If you want them shown in line like before, Android TV has an option for that. If you want the new style, search for the standard app and install that one.

Could you please elaborate about where to find this option to "show them inline like before"?

[GrimReaper 4739]

1 hour ago, FredrikT said:

Could you please elaborate about where to find this option to "show them inline like before"?

App Settings>General Display tab>Show Missing Episodes. 

With one caveat, though:

On 8/22/2024 at 5:03 PM, ebr said:

it will only show intermediate missing episodes. Which means, if the only missing ones are the last ones in your library, it won't see those.

 

[serpi 82]

On 8/22/2024 at 6:03 PM, ebr said:

However, it will only show intermediate missing episodes.  Which means, if the only missing ones are the last ones in your library, it won't see those.

So, this is only "show missing numbers in the row", not really "show missing episodes", there will be no information (title, description, picture) about the mising episodes, right?

It seem's to be a just workaround to get at least some part of the feature back and only shows, that users really want the old way back, sadly developers seem to to care.

Ciao, Alfred

[ebr 16169]

1 hour ago, serpi said:

So, this is only "show missing numbers in the row", not really "show missing episodes", there will be no information (title, description, picture) about the mising episodes, right?

It seem's to be a just workaround to get at least some part of the feature back and only shows, that users really want the old way back, sadly developers seem to to care.

Ciao, Alfred

It is an implementation that addresses the largest issue with episodes missing in your library - accidentally watching past them without even knowing they are there.

[FredrikT 24]

On 25/08/2024 at 17:45, ebr said:

It is an implementation that addresses the largest issue with episodes missing in your library - accidentally watching past them without even knowing they are there.

I tuned on this feature as described by @GrimReaperon my Android TV. It did not show that I'm missing the first two episodes of a new season of a show, so for me this is completely useless.

Please bring back the old function as an option(/plugin or something. This implementation/workaround doesn't work.

[ebr 16169]

4 hours ago, FredrikT said:

It did not show that I'm missing the first two episodes of a new season of a show

Surely you noticed that the season started with episode 3 though...?

[pwhodges 2012]

I presume this facility is mainly for people who don't themselves watch the content on their servers...

Paul

[FredrikT 24]

On 07/09/2024 at 00:50, ebr said:

Surely you noticed that the season started with episode 3 though...?

That's what I had as an example. I would imagine the same result if I had episode1, and only missing episode 2? Anyways, this was not an issue with the old method. Why is it so difficult to re-implement/support the old way of doing this that worked perfectly afaik?

[Neminem 1518]

A lot of questions here.

1) Why do you not know what you have ?

Its you that is supplying the media.

2) Why are you surprised when you do not have that file ?

3) have you set it to auto and DON'T know what you download ?

If 1) and 2) applyes why do you need this ?

If 3) Just stop pirating, or get your act together.

[ebr 16169]

4 hours ago, FredrikT said:

I would imagine the same result if I had episode1, and only missing episode 2?

Not if you were using the Android TV app and had the option we were discussing enabled and you had episode 3 as well.

[Tigga5 39]

16 hours ago, JayceDK said:

A lot of questions here.

1) Why do you not know what you have ?

Its you that is supplying the media.

2) Why are you surprised when you do not have that file ?

3) have you set it to auto and DON'T know what you download ?

If 1) and 2) applyes why do you need this ?

If 3) Just stop pirating, or get your act together.

WTF kind of ignorant statement is this? You realize there are things out there called DVR's where the technology is not perfect (especially when it comes to Emby's own offering)? Get your act together and leave your judgemental BS assumptions at the door next time.

 

12 hours ago, ebr said:

Not if you were using the Android TV app and had the option we were discussing enabled and you had episode 3 as well.

Funny how in one thread you guys try to tell people the Android TV app is being deprecated and they need to move onto the universal app, yet here you're telling people just to go back and keep using the old app that's soon to be put out to pasture. Good way to just kick that can down the road rather than actually fix the problem that you've created.

Edited September 10, 2024 by Tigga5

[gutterdone26 9]

Just to ping this conversation again, but I would love to have the feature back where I can run a report on my library and see in an Excel sheet format any episodes I may have forgotten about. I don't watch everything I have because it's not all for me so I don't pay complete attention to everything, and when a library gets fairly large it becomes easy to miss episodes. I don't want to spend a lot of time checking each series one by one when it could be done using a top level report feature. So please, if possible, bring this feature back. It was very useful to some of us.

[Vinylnostalgia 1]

On 25/08/2024 at 18:45, ebr said:

It is an implementation that addresses the largest issue with episodes missing in your library - accidentally watching past them without even knowing they are there.

what about showing a popup when a user skips an episode because it isn't available, or something similar. 

 

And how does this implementation even solve the problem? If anything, it makes it worse??

[ebr 16169]

2 hours ago, Vinylnostalgia said:

what about showing a popup when a user skips an episode because it isn't available, or something similar. 

That is exactly what it does.

[Jonathan1683 29]

I have to be honest once this new thing has been implemented I don't really care anymore. The new missing feature in metadata manager works really well. The only thing I would suggest is that we can hide some. For some reason I cannot locate all of life below zero and it's always listed under missing forever i guess.

[Sebmuuh83 2]

Please bring back the feature to be able to view the missing episodes directly in the overview of the individual episodes

it's annoying to have to open an extra menu every time.

that's not even enough, you have to move a slider to show the next episodes...

Not everyone knows the complete episode guide of a series and many people only watch series when seasons are complete. so it's a very useful function to be able to see directly whether a season is complete or not

I really can't understand why they removed this feature and then added such useless and complicated features

[Gilgamesh_48 1240]

10 hours ago, Sebmuuh83 said:

Please bring back the feature to be able to view the missing episodes directly in the overview of the individual episodes

it's annoying to have to open an extra menu every time.

that's not even enough, you have to move a slider to show the next episodes...

Not everyone knows the complete episode guide of a series and many people only watch series when seasons are complete. so it's a very useful function to be able to see directly whether a season is complete or not

I really can't understand why they removed this feature and then added such useless and complicated features

I really do not understand the problem. In the web interface it is very easy to navigate to a show and then click on the three dot menu and the go to the bottom and click on "Show missing episodes" and all the missing episodes show in a nice easy to use list. I guess there are people that manage their content from various clients, and I have absolutely no idea why or how anyone would do that,  but that seems to me to be an unproductive way to manage content.

I disagreed with Emby when they made the change but, now that I have used it for a while, I find it easier and faster that the other, much more cumbersome, method used before. 

I find Emby's decisions on user interface design poor on first inspection but, after using it for a short time, it really does seem better most of the time.