AmyLubow 1 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 This may be vague, and I'm sorry if it is. I recently ripped the 4K BluRay of the Lord of the Rings Trilogy. Super large files, but awesome quality nonetheless. Anyway... When I play them in Emby, the first two movies show HDR, but Return of the King (last movie) Dolby Vision shows up when playing back. (Shield Pro is the client) I'm not sure if anyone can answer the question... but truly curious as to what Emby needs to see in order to play Dolby Vision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4330 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) Loaded question. But basically a simple answer. Emby needs a client that is capable of playing back Dolby Vision. So in a nutshell the HDMI chain needs to support it from client to hardware. Edited May 27, 2021 by cayars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sross44 233 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Well crap... I accidentally posted the original question from my fiance's account. Is it possible to delete that post and start over? I don't see an option for deleting the topic??? And as a side note... the client is the same. It's been a shield pro playing all the movies. HDR for one and DV for the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4330 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 No need, we know you have an alternate personality now. LOL It's fine, no need to adjust anything. Can you go over what you may perceive as an issue in specifics? I'm a little bit unsure of exactly what might be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sross44 233 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 HAHA... my alter ego. She's my better half for sure... but she watches more movies than I do lol Basically here's the issue. I have movies that I copied directly from the 4K Blu Ray of the Lord of the Rings. 2 of the movies play in HDR. One plays in DV. For the life of me I can't understand why one does DV while the other is DV when I did exactly the same things for all 3 movies. Just strange. The quality looks great on all 3 in Emby... it's just crazy to me the reasoning etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrbee99 1560 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 This DV thing. Am wondering, did you try restarting any of the movies ? I think I've seen occasions when the DV logo pops up on the screen erratically and might need a few goes to get it to work. Mind you, I have a Shield Pro playing to a Sony TV that apparently only does profile 5 DV and most 4K rips are apparently profile 7, so the TV shouldn't play them, but apparently the Shield does play profile 7. Hence I've seen the TV pop up the DV logo, but is it actually playing the movie in DV or did it just get a signal saying DV but it just does HDR and I can't tell the difference. Course this doesn't matter if you haven't got a Sony TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sross44 233 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 I've tried restarting multiple times. I've tried on a new Sony as well as on my LG. Both show DV for the movie. Honestly like I said both pictures look great. It would be awesome if there was a way in Emby to see if it was playing DV/HDR etc. That goes to some of what I've said in the past. I'd love to see Emby show a few more details like Plex does on what's being played etc. Bandwidth being used etc etc. But that's a whole conversation for another forum/post. In regards to this, who knows why. I don't know if it's just the signal being received, or if it's actually being played in DV. I doubt there's even a way to check that really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrbee99 1560 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Weird. I guess you used the same version of MakeMKV or whatever to rip them ? You could see if there are any differences with MediaInfo, if it would make any difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sross44 233 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 I did use the same version of MakeMKV. Finished one right after the other. I know it's strange for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrbee99 1560 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Any difference between Theatrical and Extended ? I could try what happens on my copies, fairly soon(ish). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sross44 233 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 They're both Extended. Wonder if I should try theatrical... may not be worth going through the hassle again haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrbee99 1560 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Okay, I'll give it a go, at least for curiosities sake, somewhat later today. (not to watch, but to see if the DV logo comes up in the beginning). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14912 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Hi. And you are positive that all the movies actually are in DV, correct...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sross44 233 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, ebr said: Hi. And you are positive that all the movies actually are in DV, correct...? Yes, when I put the discs in to my 4k blu-ray player, they all show up as DV. Edited May 28, 2021 by sross44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbjtech 4260 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) I believe @ebr is referring to the rips .. The best tool to identify DV is MediaInfo - if the 'HDR' section says :- Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible Then it's DV single layer - and should be playable with emby. If it says - SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible (only) and there is a 2nd Video track (also saying SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible) then whilst this is a DV 'rip' it is not playable on any software based player - thus you need to convert it to a single layer. You can actually do this by running it back though the latest version of MakeMKV. ie use the dual layer MKV as the source of the rip - and the new version should be a single layer. I hope that helps. Edited May 28, 2021 by rbjtech 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sross44 233 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, rbjtech said: I believe @ebr is referring to the rips .. The best tool to identify DV is MediaInfo - if the 'HDR' section says :- Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible Then it's DV single layer - and should be playable with emby. If it says - SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible (only) and there is a 2nd Video track (also saying SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible) then whilst this is a DV 'rip' it is not playable on any software based player - thus you need to convert it to a single layer. You can actually do this by running it back though the latest version of MakeMKV. ie use the dual layer MKV as the source of the rip - and the new version should be a single layer. I hope that helps. Well here's one of the movies that Emby is showing as HDR and not Dolby Vision. Also... not all HDR movies are DV rip or not lol. Video ID : 1 Format : HEVC Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High HDR format : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible Codec ID : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC Duration : 3h 48mn Bit rate : 67.9 Mbps Width : 3840 pixel Height : 2160 pixel Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : CFR Frame rate : 23.976 (23976/1000) fps Original frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) fps Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2) Bit depth : 10 bit Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.342 Stream size : 108 GiB (95%) Language : English Default : No Forced : No Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.2020 Transfer characteristics : PQ Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant Mastering display color primaries: Display P3 Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2 Maximum Content Light Level : 602 cd/m2 Maximum Frame-Average Light Level: 184 cd/m2 Edited May 28, 2021 by sross44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyrunner 21 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 How are you showing all the video info what tool is that? I’m on qnap and client is nvida shield pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sross44 233 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 It's called MediaInfo Here's the link: https://github.com/stax76/MediaInfo.NET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbjtech 4260 Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 17 hours ago, sross44 said: Well here's one of the movies that Emby is showing as HDR and not Dolby Vision. Also... not all HDR movies are DV rip or not lol. Video ID : 1 Format : HEVC Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High HDR format : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible Codec ID : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC Duration : 3h 48mn Bit rate : 67.9 Mbps Width : 3840 pixel Height : 2160 pixel Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : CFR Frame rate : 23.976 (23976/1000) fps Original frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) fps Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2) Bit depth : 10 bit Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.342 Stream size : 108 GiB (95%) Language : English Default : No Forced : No Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.2020 Transfer characteristics : PQ Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant Mastering display color primaries: Display P3 Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2 Maximum Content Light Level : 602 cd/m2 Maximum Frame-Average Light Level: 184 cd/m2 Hmm - interesting - that 'should' play DV on the Shield just fine. Are the MediaInfo settings identical to the one that does play ok ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sross44 233 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 On 5/29/2021 at 8:57 AM, rbjtech said: Hmm - interesting - that 'should' play DV on the Shield just fine. Are the MediaInfo settings identical to the one that does play ok ? Yup 100% identical. Isn't that strange for sure? I can't figure it out. It really isn't the biggest of deals, but something that's "quirky" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrbee99 1560 Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 I finally got round to having a go with LOTR. Just the first minute of all six, 3 theatrical and 3 extended. They all showed Dolby Vision on the TV and Dolby Atmos on the sound bar. I think The Two Towers Theatrical only showed DV on the second attempt. They were all done using MakeMKV 1.15.4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbjtech 4260 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Are you using the 'HTTP' or 'File' method on the Shield Pro ? Sometimes when I try a 4K DV remux, it uses HTTP even though I have set it to use File. So it's a little inconsistent - but if I stop and play it again - it then uses File. It's no big deal so I haven't bothered to report it - but is anybody else seeing this ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14912 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 3 hours ago, rbjtech said: Sometimes when I try a 4K DV remux, it uses HTTP even though I have set it to use File That could happen if the attempt to access directly fails. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbjtech 4260 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 hour ago, ebr said: That could happen if the attempt to access directly fails. Thanks Eric - yes I think it's something to do with the 'wake up' time or 'network browser' access - as it's only ever the first time I use it does it seem to fail back to HTTP. Every retry after that on the same file or any other file works just fine using File access. Both methods work fine, so it really is a minor point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sross44 233 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Interestingly enough today all played in DV with no changes. The whole thing is strange. Either way thanks for all the ideas and suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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