KodiaK 2 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Hello, I am having issues when playing high bitrate 4K movies from my PC on my TV: every 3-5s, the playback stops for a few seconds (buffering reasons I suppose). If I set the quality to 40Mbs it runs fine, but I loose HDR. The TV is connected to the router via cable (so no bandwidth issues), and if I run the move on the PC (through Emby app) it runs perfectly (so no hardware issues). Below are the details of one such movie: General Unique ID : 243633605853055270429029935505326703562 (0xB74A202DB0212ACF81137871277F83CA) Complete name : E:\DOWNLOADS\!FILME\Raya.and.the.Last.Dragon.2021.2160p.UHD.Remux.HDR.HEVC.TrueHD.Atmos.7.1-playBD\Raya.and.the.Last.Dragon.2021.2160p.UHD.Remux.HDR.HEVC.TrueHD.Atmos.7.1-playBD.mkv Format : Matroska Format version : Version 4 / Version 2 File size : 45.6 GiB Duration : 1h 47mn Overall bit rate mode : Variable Overall bit rate : 60.8 Mbps Encoded date : UTC 2021-05-15 14:10:04 Writing application : mkvmerge v55.0.0 ('Waiting For Space') 64-bit Writing library : libebml v1.4.2 + libmatroska v1.6.4 DURATION : 01:34:12.768000000 NUMBER_OF_FRAMES : 1116 NUMBER_OF_BYTES : 32182 _STATISTICS_WRITING_APP : mkvmerge v55.0.0 ('Waiting For Space') 64-bit _STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UTC : 2021-05-15 14:10:04 _STATISTICS_TAGS : BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES Video ID : 2 Format : HEVC Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High Codec ID : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC Duration : 1h 47mn Width : 3 840 pixels Height : 2 160 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 23.976 fps Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 10 bits Writing library : ATEME Titan File 3.9.6 (4.9.6.2) Language : English Default : Yes Forced : No Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.2020 Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant I don't know what other details to give, so please ask if anything else is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4330 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Hi, how exactly are you playing these? Are you casting them or using an app on the TV? What TV is this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KodiaK 2 Posted May 22, 2021 Author Share Posted May 22, 2021 I am using the app on the TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37095 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Just now, KodiaK said: I am using the app on the TV. HI, what app and what version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KodiaK 2 Posted May 22, 2021 Author Share Posted May 22, 2021 Are there more Emby apps? It's the Android Emby App, version 2.0.09g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37095 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Thank you for answering. Yes we have a number of apps: https://emby.media/download Can you please attach the emby server log from an example playback session? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdatanet 1549 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, KodiaK said: Are there more Emby apps? It's the Android Emby App, version 2.0.09g Does it run on TV or external device? What TV or external device? This is a pretty high bitrate, the player device must support it. Edited May 22, 2021 by vdatanet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KodiaK 2 Posted May 22, 2021 Author Share Posted May 22, 2021 No exactly sure what log u mean, it's this OK? The movie runs from the server app (which is installed on the PC) and the player device it's a Sony TV, on which I have installed the Emby Android app. embyserver.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justinrh 174 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 And what kind of network connection do you have? Is it a consistent 70Mbps+? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KodiaK 2 Posted May 23, 2021 Author Share Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) As it's LAN connection, there should be no problem. According to the router it's 100Mbs full duplex. I also did a speedtest on the TV, and it's 94.5Mbs download and 98.5 upload. Edited May 23, 2021 by KodiaK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14923 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Hi. It is probably the TV itself that just cannot handle an item with that high of a bitrate. Most TVs are designed for a max of about 20-30Mb/s and that one is twice that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KodiaK 2 Posted May 23, 2021 Author Share Posted May 23, 2021 If I play the exact file through KODI from an external HDD attached to the TV, it plays without issues, so it's definitely not the TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdatanet 1549 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 1 minute ago, KodiaK said: If I play the exact file through KODI from an external HDD attached to the TV, it plays without issues, so it's definitely not the TV. But in that scenario the LAN factor has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KodiaK 2 Posted May 23, 2021 Author Share Posted May 23, 2021 Yes, exactly. So the TV is ok playing high bitrate files. Unfortunately I can't add network files in KODI, to test the LAN factor in KODI also. Now if the TV can handle it. the LAN connection can handle it, the only culprit is the Emby app itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdatanet 1549 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, KodiaK said: Now if the TV can handle it. the LAN connection can handle it, the only culprit is the Emby app itself Some TVs have crappy ethernet ports. Can you post your TV exact model? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KodiaK 2 Posted May 23, 2021 Author Share Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) The TV is SONY KD-43XE8077: https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/6248cd9 Edited May 23, 2021 by KodiaK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdatanet 1549 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 13 minutes ago, KodiaK said: The TV is SONY KD-43XE8077: https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/6248cd9 Googling a bit and you can see a lot of complaints about the performance of the ethernet port of this TV. There are even users who report that it works better using Wi-Fi, as long as the connection is 5 Ghz and with good coverage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KodiaK 2 Posted May 23, 2021 Author Share Posted May 23, 2021 Never thought that wi-fi can work better then ethernet, but I switched to wi-fi and played ~5mins with no buffering. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14923 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Glad you got it work for you. The NIC only being 100Mb must be the culprit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KodiaK 2 Posted May 24, 2021 Author Share Posted May 24, 2021 (edited) Since the movie bitrate was 60Mbs, I would expect that 100Mbs would be more than enough to handle it. Especially since the Internet speed test I did on the TV was above 90Mbs both download and upload. I hope that this turns out to be the fix, but i have to watch a couple of high bitrate movies to see if the issue is solved. I'll come back if i encounter any more problems. PS: Router is in the same room as the TV, so wi-fi coverage should not be an issue. Edited May 24, 2021 by KodiaK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdatanet 1549 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 The problem is not that it is a 100 Mbps port, the problem is that it is a crappy port that does not support sustained high bitrate traffic. Common in 3/4-year-old televisions, in most cases due to the experience with my friends and family, in this type of televisions Wi-Fi works better than Lan (if Wi-Fi is good of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4330 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 @vdatanet Have you ever tried a USB dongle Ethernet adapter on a TV like this? Just wondering if it would even work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdatanet 1549 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Just now, cayars said: @vdatanet Have you ever tried a USB dongle Ethernet adapter on a TV like this? Just wondering if it would even work? No, in these "old" televisions I usually replace the "smart" features with external devices such as Nvidia Shield, Fire TV, Mi Box... I am not very fond of smart TVs. Software is often out of date before the life of the TV ends. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4330 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 I don't use the smart features of any of my TVs either and have external devices hooked up as well. Stuff just works properly this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14923 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 7 hours ago, KodiaK said: Since the movie bitrate was 60Mbs, I would expect that 100Mbs The 60 is an average and the 100 is a theoretical maximum, not a guaranteed sustained value. It is not unusual for these TV NICs to not be able to handle content like that. Luckily, you've got it working now via the wifi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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